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Post by Admin on May 27, 2023 12:55:34 GMT
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Post by Admin on May 27, 2023 12:57:31 GMT
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Post by kueifei on May 30, 2023 0:43:05 GMT
I feel bad for Rose; she had a great life, perfect setup, and William just insisted on smashing it up. Then there was the fact that William messed with Jecca even after she married.He is a walking disaster area. I wonder how many other lives he's wrecked. Up until Kate outed Rose, Rose was securely married, she had two sons, and she was someone who was a secure fixture on the scene. I still think this affair is a lie, but I am okay if proven wrong. I also think William is messing with someone else since his own mother had multiple men on the go.
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Post by Admin on May 31, 2023 15:26:19 GMT
I feel bad for Rose; she had a great life, perfect setup, and William just insisted on smashing it up. Then there was the fact that William messed with Jecca even after she married.He is a walking disaster area. I wonder how many other lives he's wrecked. Up until Kate outed Rose, Rose was securely married, she had two sons, and she was someone who was a secure fixture on the scene. I still think this affair is a lie, but I am okay if proven wrong. I also think William is messing with someone else since his own mother had multiple men on the go. I'm thinking there was something there and the rather open promotion of the family of a marquis is very telling. No dissing but a marquis is not a high noble rank. Why not the sons of Dukes for pages? Did William have to be encouraged to behave and elevating Rosie and her preferred son (pity the ignored one) to a worldwide stage was some kind of consolation prize?
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Post by kueifei on May 31, 2023 16:41:57 GMT
I feel bad for Rose; she had a great life, perfect setup, and William just insisted on smashing it up. Then there was the fact that William messed with Jecca even after she married.He is a walking disaster area. I wonder how many other lives he's wrecked. Up until Kate outed Rose, Rose was securely married, she had two sons, and she was someone who was a secure fixture on the scene. I still think this affair is a lie, but I am okay if proven wrong. I also think William is messing with someone else since his own mother had multiple men on the go. I'm thinking there was something there and the rather open promotion of the family of a marquis is very telling. No dissing but a marquis is not a high noble rank. Why not the sons of Dukes for pages? Did William have to be encouraged to behave and elevating Rosie and her preferred son (pity the ignored one) to a worldwide stage was some kind of consolation prize? I believe a Marquis is just below a Duke, so it's not small potatoes.
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Post by Admin on May 31, 2023 17:21:28 GMT
I'm thinking there was something there and the rather open promotion of the family of a marquis is very telling. No dissing but a marquis is not a high noble rank. Why not the sons of Dukes for pages? Did William have to be encouraged to behave and elevating Rosie and her preferred son (pity the ignored one) to a worldwide stage was some kind of consolation prize? I believe a Marquis is just below a Duke, so it's not small potatoes. An Earl would be but no sons of them there. Marquis is below that.
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Post by Admin on May 31, 2023 17:25:59 GMT
My bad, a marquis is apparently higher than an Earl. Hmmm....
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Post by kueifei on Jun 7, 2023 3:51:52 GMT
My bad, a marquis is apparently higher than an Earl. Hmmm....
So basically the marriage between a Marquis and his Marchioness has been ruined by a member of the BRF and after a while William will drop Rose and Rose will be in a bad 'fix.' Meaning that bad enough that Charles ruined Camilla's marriage, but regrettably for William, Camilla was gentry, NOT high nobility as Rose has been part of. Rose's son will be a high member of the royal court, but it does mean that Rose is in a bad situation. If her marriage collapses then that would mean that Rose will have to move out of what has been her home for years. So where would Rose go after a divorce? William has messed with the high nobility and the high nobility is all that is left in keeping the monarchy going?
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Post by Admin on Jun 7, 2023 12:31:27 GMT
My bad, a marquis is apparently higher than an Earl. Hmmm.... So basically the marriage between a Marquis and his Marchioness has been ruined by a member of the BRF and after a while William will drop Rose and Rose will be in a bad 'fix.' Meaning that bad enough that Charles ruined Camilla's marriage, but regrettably for William, Camilla was gentry, NOT high nobility as Rose has been part of. Rose's son will be a high member of the royal court, but it does mean that Rose is in a bad situation. If her marriage collapses then that would mean that Rose will have to move out of what has been her home for years. So where would Rose go after a divorce? William has messed with the high nobility and the high nobility is all that is left in keeping the monarchy going?
Thinking that Rose's marriage is kaputsky, but then there were rumours it wasn't a real marriage in the classic sense and that HE had another (male?) partner. These kind of odd arrangements, attachments, detachments, etc, are commonplace in that set. I wouldn't be too concerned about Rosie, I'm sure she would be protected more so than other women in her set. Yes, William has wrought so much damage to a great many, and as this situation with Rosie is hitting him at home, so to speak, then he should be called upon to clean up the mess. Good luck with that, as who is on his side with his (alleged) private behaviour/interest in this family?
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Post by kueifei on Jun 7, 2023 15:54:08 GMT
So basically the marriage between a Marquis and his Marchioness has been ruined by a member of the BRF and after a while William will drop Rose and Rose will be in a bad 'fix.' Meaning that bad enough that Charles ruined Camilla's marriage, but regrettably for William, Camilla was gentry, NOT high nobility as Rose has been part of. Rose's son will be a high member of the royal court, but it does mean that Rose is in a bad situation. If her marriage collapses then that would mean that Rose will have to move out of what has been her home for years. So where would Rose go after a divorce? William has messed with the high nobility and the high nobility is all that is left in keeping the monarchy going?
Thinking that Rose's marriage is kaputsky, but then there were rumours it wasn't a real marriage in the classic sense and that HE had another (male?) partner. These kind of odd arrangements, attachments, detachments, etc, are commonplace in that set. I wouldn't be too concerned about Rosie, I'm sure she would be protected more so than other women in her set. Yes, William has wrought so much damage to a great many, and as this situation with Rosie is hitting him at home, so to speak, then he should be called upon to clean up the mess. Good luck with that, as who is on his side with his (alleged) private behaviour/interest in this family? I think a deal was struck; in exchange for a long leash, the Marquis would give his wife respect, protection, financial indulgence, and free run of their homes and estates. In exchange, Rose would have free run of everything social and financial and she would be able to spend all the time she wanted with her children and she would also be able to have a few affairs of her own, barring any kind of exposure or child that was not of her husband's line. I think there might be a relationship of a confidante between Rose and William, plus the natural social attachment, but this is something else. Even if there isn't an affair, it is still a mess, still an open scandal, still exposed. Plus one of his kids is being slandered as being William's illegitimate kid and it is clear that Rose might be in the doghouse.
I think Rose and William were a natural part of their set, Kate in her paranoia thought that Rose's refusal to let Kate run the shire social set is in fact something that might have triggered Kate. So Kate outed Rose and William's bond and since then it has been an ongoing terror campaign among the turnip toffs. This mess is out of control and the press is insane enough to think that Kate could ban Rose from HME's funeral and Charles' coronation. Can't do that. I think there will come a point when Kate will be the one who will lose her marriage and Rose will not lose her marriage. Thing is, that despite Rose's situation, her husband has not filed for divorce (that we know of) and just recently Charles did appoint Rose's husband in a high position. It's not like Rose is not supported.
William is not the man who will dither; if he wanted to marry Rose, he would certainly be leaving his wife more actively. Rose right now is likely riding this mess out with the support of the shires and her husband and his family and yet, oddly, Kate is the one who is becoming more socially isolated. William in his own lunatic way is decisive. Once the Wales marriage ends and the Hanbury marriage remains, William will be the one remarrying and still a mess and Kate herself will be floundering and ruined.
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Post by Admin on Mar 17, 2024 17:41:42 GMT
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Post by Admin on Mar 17, 2024 17:42:16 GMT
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Post by Admin on Mar 17, 2024 17:44:25 GMT
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Post by Admin on Mar 17, 2024 17:46:44 GMT
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Post by kueifei on Mar 17, 2024 20:01:56 GMT
We all go through the painful phase of realizing we don't belong in places or among people, but it is far past time for Kate to wise up and start dealing in realities. Kate is not and never will be one of them. She will never be born to what they were born to and they will NEVER have or accept or protect her as one of their own. She will never be one of them and due to her failure to do her part, she will be cast out coldly and with near nothing. She could have earned her way in, but she insisted on leeching and parasiting off of them. She didn't even try. She never did a single thing for anyone at all and she refused to try. All she had to do was a regimen of low maintenance engagements and do her part to uphold the dignity of the dynasty's name and she wouldn't even do that. She refused to do her part. By now, if she had worked and really dug in, she might have earned a place among them as one of their own.
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Post by Scaramouche on Mar 18, 2024 1:14:44 GMT
We all go through the painful phase of realizing we don't belong in places or among people, but it is far past time for Kate to wise up and start dealing in realities. Kate is not and never will be one of them. She will never be born to what they were born to and they will NEVER have or accept or protect her as one of their own. She will never be one of them and due to her failure to do her part, she will be cast out coldly and with near nothing. She could have earned her way in, but she insisted on leeching and parasiting off of them. She didn't even try. She never did a single thing for anyone at all and she refused to try. All she had to do was a regimen of low maintenance engagements and do her part to uphold the dignity of the dynasty's name and she wouldn't even do that. She refused to do her part. By now, if she had worked and really dug in, she might have earned a place among them as one of their own.
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Post by Admin on Mar 18, 2024 2:03:29 GMT
We all go through the painful phase of realizing we don't belong in places or among people, but it is far past time for Kate to wise up and start dealing in realities. Kate is not and never will be one of them. She will never be born to what they were born to and they will NEVER have or accept or protect her as one of their own. She will never be one of them and due to her failure to do her part, she will be cast out coldly and with near nothing. She could have earned her way in, but she insisted on leeching and parasiting off of them. She didn't even try. She never did a single thing for anyone at all and she refused to try. All she had to do was a regimen of low maintenance engagements and do her part to uphold the dignity of the dynasty's name and she wouldn't even do that. She refused to do her part. By now, if she had worked and really dug in, she might have earned a place among them as one of their own. We are missing what you had to say.
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Post by sanka on Mar 18, 2024 7:03:05 GMT
I feel sorry for Rose getting dragged through the mud yet again. It is like when they want to stir the pot they use Rose as the story.
I don't believe PW is having an affair with Rose as she is too good for him. I think if PW was able to have someone interested in him it would surprise us all and be someone completely different.
It is getting weary the media about the affair. At least the media could find out the real story rather than just throwing Rose under the bus.
Maybe I have got it all wrong...rant over.
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Post by kueifei on Mar 18, 2024 15:29:38 GMT
I feel sorry for Rose getting dragged through the mud yet again. It is like when they want to stir the pot they use Rose as the story. I don't believe PW is having an affair with Rose as she is too good for him. I think if PW was able to have someone interested in him it would surprise us all and be someone completely different. It is getting weary the media about the affair. At least the media could find out the real story rather than just throwing Rose under the bus. Maybe I have got it all wrong...rant over. Same here. Rose didn't do anything and I think she hasn't been the mistress since if she were, her and her husband would be divorced. I think William is one of those men who keeps bringing a mess wherever he goes. Anyone who gets tied up with him ends up getting hit with a mess. He is like a bad luck charm or some kind of jinn that brings mischief and trouble with him. Even Rose's little girl got slandered in the press for being William's illegitimate daughter. Rose is a Marchioness and what the idiot press and William refuse to accept is that a Marchioness is not the same as an Honorable. Rose is ranked as the aristocratic consort of a man who has status just below the ducal rank and William is dragging a MARCHIONESS into a horrific situation and she is getting slandered. William just has this amazing ability to make terrible choices and do terrible damage. I never believed it since usually if the mistress is outed, there is divorce. William clearly does not care about how much damage he does.
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Post by Leopard on May 13, 2024 1:15:15 GMT
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