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Post by Admin on Nov 3, 2024 14:32:59 GMT
www.lipstickalley.com/threads/the-kant-kate-middleton-unpopular-opinions-thread-part-2.5566435/page-51LolaBea Never argue w someone Harriet would've left behind JoinedJan 6, 2016 Messages51,458 Reaction score Reactions581,166 6,383 1,521612,086 Alleybux251,500 Oct 17, 2024 #2,008 Forgot to share these here. Whatever fairytale Kate and Carole want to tell they need to know it has to be played out all the way because moments like this speak loud
Looking haggard and trash as the pos she is. Whatever her lazy self is going through may she have a long hard think about why shamelessly lowering yourself will never pay off.
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Post by Admin on Nov 3, 2024 14:36:05 GMT
www.lipstickalley.com/threads/the-kant-kate-middleton-unpopular-opinions-thread-part-2.5566435/page-51MarquessAnne General Manager JoinedMay 13, 2018 Messages2,054 Reaction score Reactions22,456 367 11622,340 Alleybux979,052 Oct 18, 2024 #2,009 LolaBea said: Forgot to share these here. Whatever fairytale Kate and Carole want to tell they need to know it has to be played out all the way because moments like this speak loud giphy.gif giphy.gif Looking haggard and trash as the pos she is. Whatever her lazy self is going through may she have a long hard think about why shamelessly lowering yourself will never pay off. Click to expand... She should've married a rich guy that actually liked herThanks 9
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Post by Admin on Nov 3, 2024 14:38:11 GMT
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Post by Admin on Nov 3, 2024 14:40:29 GMT
Aside: This, in a nutshell www.lipstickalley.com/threads/the-kant-kate-middleton-unpopular-opinions-thread-part-2.5566435/page-51MM88 Team Owner JoinedSep 19, 2016 Messages5,592 Reaction score Reactions35,176 423 3037,405 Alleybux592,573 Oct 18, 2024 #2,013 MarquessAnne said: She was going after aristos and adjacent billionaires. Finding a nice to you in public wealthy guy should not have been that hard for her. It seems like everyone in that circle knew exactly what Kate wanted e.g. the big prize aka Baldy by the time she made it in the group, and were willing to humor aka pass her around while they waited for Baldy to ice her out. Except he didn't. He’s a weak man who is stupid enough to fall for Kate and middys tricks every single time. Which is odd considering he thinks he some sort of genius. When baby brain outsmarts you everytime…. I think William just self sabotages his life and makes everyone else around him suffer bc of his dumb decisions.
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Post by kueifei on Nov 3, 2024 14:43:48 GMT
www.lipstickalley.com/threads/the-kant-kate-middleton-unpopular-opinions-thread-part-2.5566435/page-51LolaBea Never argue w someone Harriet would've left behind JoinedJan 6, 2016 Messages51,458 Reaction score Reactions581,166 6,383 1,521612,086 Alleybux251,500 Oct 17, 2024 #2,008 Forgot to share these here. Whatever fairytale Kate and Carole want to tell they need to know it has to be played out all the way because moments like this speak loud Looking haggard and trash as the pos she is. Whatever her lazy self is going through may she have a long hard think about why shamelessly lowering yourself will never pay off. I think Kate was never very high up to begin with. Second, how bitterly ironic that William was foolish enough to listen to the press instead of his courtiers. If he had listened to the courtiers and his family and who knows who else, I am certain that he would be a far happier married man. He is in a fix because people believe she has cancer and leaving a cancer stricken/recovering wife will just ruin him. At his age and lack of accomplishments it will be impossible to find a decent woman and then there is the fact that most his age are settled into a profession and also with other men or determinedly single.
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Post by Admin on Nov 3, 2024 14:52:41 GMT
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Post by kueifei on Nov 5, 2024 1:19:13 GMT
I think this is embittering for William because he married Kate with the belief that she would be a loving, contributing, happy consort who would mimic what he thought Kate's parents had. Kate has never had a real intention to be a contributing spouse and that should have been evident when she was unable to really pay her own way the way the others in William's set were. I do not think that it ever occurred to William that there were legit reasons that his set never truly warmed to her at all.
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Post by Admin on Nov 5, 2024 18:52:41 GMT
I think this is embittering for William because he married Kate with the belief that she would be a loving, contributing, happy consort who would mimic what he thought Kate's parents had. Kate has never had a real intention to be a contributing spouse and that should have been evident when she was unable to really pay her own way the way the others in William's set were. I do not think that it ever occurred to William that there were legit reasons that his set never truly warmed to her at all. Kate and Carole wanted the Diana Experience. Kate was never going to be of any use. Remember the years of doing the least amount of anything? We have been on her for years, we knew she would never change. Useless and grasping from Day 1. William was never going to warrant any real self-respecting woman. His early behaviour would have raised quite a few red flags.
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Post by india on Nov 5, 2024 20:58:26 GMT
I think this is embittering for William because he married Kate with the belief that she would be a loving, contributing, happy consort who would mimic what he thought Kate's parents had. Kate has never had a real intention to be a contributing spouse and that should have been evident when she was unable to really pay her own way the way the others in William's set were. I do not think that it ever occurred to William that there were legit reasons that his set never truly warmed to her at all. Kate and Carole wanted the Diana Experience. Kate was never going to be of any use. Remember the years of doing the least amount of anything? We have been on her for years, we knew she would never change. Useless and grasping from Day 1. William was never going to warrant any real self-respecting woman. His early behaviour would have raised quite a few red flags. Willy Boy got exactly what his lying lazy arse deserved.
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Post by kueifei on Nov 6, 2024 0:25:02 GMT
I think this is embittering for William because he married Kate with the belief that she would be a loving, contributing, happy consort who would mimic what he thought Kate's parents had. Kate has never had a real intention to be a contributing spouse and that should have been evident when she was unable to really pay her own way the way the others in William's set were. I do not think that it ever occurred to William that there were legit reasons that his set never truly warmed to her at all. Kate and Carole wanted the Diana Experience. Kate was never going to be of any use. Remember the years of doing the least amount of anything? We have been on her for years, we knew she would never change. Useless and grasping from Day 1. William was never going to warrant any real self-respecting woman. His early behaviour would have raised quite a few red flags. I wish Diana had not conned the public into thinking that she had had anything in common with them. As to Diana's lifestyle and the sumptuousness in which she lived her life, I wish the BRF had made it clear that Diana's privileges and wardrobe had come from the need to prep for her many appearances. Diana would not have had couture handed to her for daywear and nothing else. The 'thing' with old money is that their swag comes from being useful, not being just 'there.' Yes, designer and couture are in their closets, but with the aristocracy, they cannot wear a full-length cloth of gold gown just for wearing to Sunday church. During down time they wear far more casual clothes, but for appearances and official engagements they wear the swag. Diana got away with jet setting, but she knew how to make sure it was treated as a side fringe, not a main occupation. She was by her husband's side, she did her duty and up until 1992, she was making it work. I blame the BRF for kind of raising the next generation of potential consorts to believe that this would be their rightful lifestyle and that none of it would have to be earned.
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Post by livelysprite on Nov 9, 2024 11:37:43 GMT
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Post by kueifei on Nov 9, 2024 19:16:30 GMT
She always kept running back to her parents and in my view, that undermined her marriage more than anything else. She left William alone on his birthday in Wales and she ended up shirking the royal court while shopping in London. I think the worst thing for William is how he played along with the delusional belief that coming from a different class wouldn't really mean that Kate was a using person, and he thought she would provide him with the simple home life he always tried to find for himself. All that time she was spending away from him meant less intimacy and less sexual bonding and then there is the fact that he couldn't rely on her to expand his horizons or do simple tasks like dress well and behave well. No manners and no real 'training' and go figure, she is incapable of minor self-sacrifices and simple appearances. The marriage is failing because she has failed. This isn't feminist, but many marriages fail because the wife fails at her duties and responsibilities. It wasn't until around the time of 2013 or 2012 that William reportedly started sniffing around and I can't say I blame him. Kate is not common because of her commoner blood; she is common because she has no clue or ability or willingness to set up a position for herself and move into it and stay there as a mature adult. Ever since she hooked up with William from so long ago, she literally had no ability at all to pull and keep herself together and I am reminded of how Fergie was. The difference between common and genteel is that the genteel (even if they lack royal or aristocrat blood) is that the genteel manage to drop certain types of BS that make their lives a confused mess and pull themselves together long enough to get into a position and then get 'there' and then once 'there' keep themselves and their lives together. The common do not.
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Post by livelysprite on Nov 10, 2024 14:14:19 GMT
2012…. Bc maybe it was the forrunner of this site that had the pics of wills. He was supposed to be on a hunting trip but was papped in a night club wo kate. He was dancing with another woman.
I don’t think Carole thought her plan through. Kate is definitely lacking. But I’m also not sure it’s all her fault. Harry cheated on Chelsea and wills is Charles son. It was only a matter of time. Face it these boys have no idea what a healthy relationship is just like Kate has no idea what work is. After looking over the photos I think he’s hands on bc he has to mind her. Same with Sophie. The compliment photos show neither one of them happy.
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Post by kueifei on Nov 11, 2024 3:36:48 GMT
2012…. Bc maybe it was the forrunner of this site that had the pics of wills. He was supposed to be on a hunting trip but was papped in a night club wo kate. He was dancing with another woman. I don’t think Carole thought her plan through. Kate is definitely lacking. But I’m also not sure it’s all her fault. Harry cheated on Chelsea and wills is Charles son. It was only a matter of time. Face it these boys have no idea what a healthy relationship is just like Kate has no idea what work is. After looking over the photos I think he’s hands on bc he has to mind her. Same with Sophie. The compliment photos show neither one of them happy. The point of judgement is that Kate had the ability to walk away. After he cheated on her, she would have had the ability to walk away and throw up her hands and say point blank that she was done with him for good. She could have walked away at any point in time, and she would have been left alone. She didn't have a gun to her head or have an arranged match where she didn't have agency or legal protection. She would have been off the radar and out of all of that and free from a relationship that was making her more and more disreputable. She had literally no circumstances holding her back from bailing out. Kate is like a lot of common types, they 'make it' and want to make the most of all they can get out of everyone around them at the top. Sophie and Kate literally do not understand the concept of ready money rather than having ample resources. Then go figure, both are miserable. The biggest reason I dislike Kate is that she had the ability to walk away and just spend time living a better life with a man who would treat her better. William is not that man. Second, she KNEW the score. She knew that there are duties and she refuses to do her part. I am sick of seeing how Kate skates on her obligations and is only now getting called on it. Kate refuses to be a wife. She refuses to be a consort, and she refuses to be a mother. So really, she has let her in-laws down. She brought nothing to her marriage, and she will likely leave with nothing. She only went after Wiliam because aristocrats and billionaires know she would bring nothing to a relationship.
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Post by livelysprite on Nov 11, 2024 13:49:31 GMT
I disagree. Kate cannot walk away. Her family won’t support her and what resources does she have? Nothing. Not sure she even has a friend to stay with. Carole groomed her for a part and not letting her return will be a form of abuse. Will be interesting if Kate’s siblings steps forward to help her.
As for not stepping up I agree. It’s sad that the Queens of Spain and Netherlands are more modern and in touch with people than Kate. But if Kate were to step out how petulant would Charles and wills be? We know Charles hated Diana’s popularity. Kate has made her bed. She could have networked in uni and found someone who loved her.
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Post by Admin on Nov 11, 2024 16:52:13 GMT
2012…. Bc maybe it was the forrunner of this site that had the pics of wills. He was supposed to be on a hunting trip but was papped in a night club wo kate. He was dancing with another woman. I don’t think Carole thought her plan through. Kate is definitely lacking. But I’m also not sure it’s all her fault. Harry cheated on Chelsea and wills is Charles son. It was only a matter of time. Face it these boys have no idea what a healthy relationship is just like Kate has no idea what work is. After looking over the photos I think he’s hands on bc he has to mind her. Same with Sophie. The compliment photos show neither one of them happy. The point of judgement is that Kate had the ability to walk away. After he cheated on her, she would have had the ability to walk away and throw up her hands and say point blank that she was done with him for good. She could have walked away at any point in time, and she would have been left alone. She didn't have a gun to her head or have an arranged match where she didn't have agency or legal protection. She would have been off the radar and out of all of that and free from a relationship that was making her more and more disreputable. She had literally no circumstances holding her back from bailing out. Kate is like a lot of common types, they 'make it' and want to make the most of all they can get out of everyone around them at the top. Sophie and Kate literally do not understand the concept of ready money rather than having ample resources. Then go figure, both are miserable. The biggest reason I dislike Kate is that she had the ability to walk away and just spend time living a better life with a man who would treat her better. William is not that man. Second, she KNEW the score. She knew that there are duties and she refuses to do her part. I am sick of seeing how Kate skates on her obligations and is only now getting called on it. Kate refuses to be a wife. She refuses to be a consort, and she refuses to be a mother. So really, she has let her in-laws down. She brought nothing to her marriage, and she will likely leave with nothing. She only went after Wiliam because aristocrats and billionaires know she would bring nothing to a relationship. I agree - she refuses to be anything. Her track record to date? What has Kate really accomplished? She has the cloying BP and media operatives towing the line, but notice that not too many people/organizations outside this sphere are profuse with any praise about her. Yeah, it's because there is nothing to go on. Nothing. Carole never thought her plan through, stupid, STUPID, low-grade scheming POS that she is. It was all to ingratiate themselves with the royals at ANY COST and was never about sacrifice or dedication to anything other than promoting that useless,tawdry, gauche-climbing family of hers. Perhaps it was what William wanted, William got. William wanted adulation and a convenient piece of a## in his bed. For Carole? Gotcha. Weak, entitled and spoiled William, whatever he demanded and wanted at any given moment. Carole: Here she is. Perhaps it's debateable whether Kate Middleton could have walked away or if she even really wanted to? She was given the "Diana" treatment, and wow, all that attention and privilege coming her way. She didn't have to do anything, other than being a willing, accessible vagina. Heady stuff - those vacations, paps (pardon the pun), benefits and privileges. Yes, she knew the score but obviously got into something way, way, WAY beyond what she could handle. Still, she is paying the price now and zero sympathy from me.
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Post by Admin on Nov 11, 2024 17:05:11 GMT
I disagree. Kate cannot walk away. Her family won’t support her and what resources does she have? Nothing. Not sure she even has a friend to stay with. Carole groomed her for a part and not letting her return will be a form of abuse. Will be interesting if Kate’s siblings steps forward to help her. As for not stepping up I agree. It’s sad that the Queens of Spain and Netherlands are more modern and in touch with people than Kate. But if Kate were to step out how petulant would Charles and wills be? We know Charles hated Diana’s popularity. Kate has made her bed. She could have networked in uni and found someone who loved her. It's no doubt too late for her to get out of a mess that is partly of her own making. Any resources would be the support that by law, she would have to receive. Kate doesn't seem to have many friends, probably most are friends by association of marriage, who would, no doubt, stay in the William camp after any seperation/divorce. Carole's support wouldn't be for her daughter as her "love" has ALWAYS been conditional. Pippa and James are completely useless, themselves, and really, have their own issues and problems, if one thinks about it. Pippa, slumlord and petty tyrant with the child-rapist for a father-in-law, and James? We know what a no-talent, useless and idiotic sponger and POS he is. Kate has to step out and make appearances as it's part of the "contract", and at this time, thinking her sham of a position in that family has to be kept under wraps. The alternative would be that she is openly exposed for the liar, bully, cancer and other-things faking traitor she really is. But, by not "protecting" Kate, Charles and William risk destabilizing the BM, Commonwealth with a whole load of secrets that could totally and utterly ruin it. If Kate goes down, so to speak, she will carry the BRF with her. It's the secrets that Charles has to protect, not Kate.
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Post by kueifei on Nov 12, 2024 6:51:27 GMT
I disagree. Kate cannot walk away. Her family won’t support her and what resources does she have? Nothing. Not sure she even has a friend to stay with. Carole groomed her for a part and not letting her return will be a form of abuse. Will be interesting if Kate’s siblings steps forward to help her. Whether or not she wants to walk is beside the point. The point is that she is no longer wanted by her husband and not by her family. She is an adjunct who is hanging on but has no real integrated place at all and she is not going to be given a choice whether or not she wants to leave or stay. She will go through a divorce and like many dependent wives, she will be shoved out and be left with the bare minimum. She will not get what Diana got and she will not get help because if she had a brain she would know that she can only get what she can get out of respect the system has for her. Since there is no respect will get even less than Fergie. In many divorces wives do not want their marriages to end, but if the husband is determined nothing will stop him from getting a divorce and leaving the marriage. We all know this. In many families, families expect their freshly divorced female relations to be self-sufficient and these days it is RARE that a woman comes to her marriage with nothing. Kate is an anachronistic anomaly, and it is obvious that Carole is not a loving mother, but a narcissistic witch. As to her siblings, her siblings have been waiting on her for years and neither will shelter her out of goodness of their hearts. Kate got put first and they were waiting on her and getting scraps. Even Kate got the bulk of support while she was 'pregnant' and Carole almost never mentioned her other grandchildren in interviews. Even Maxima and Leti do not do much for their nations, they just do appearances. If Kate were a constructive asset, she would be respected and then adored. Kate was expected ot step up once she was married and she chose not to. She chose her road the minute she bought her mother's lies. She could have walked away so many times and found a man who loved her and respected her for her humanity and lived happily and she would likely still be married. As to this, she will have to live out the road she chose for herself.
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Post by livelysprite on Nov 17, 2024 16:47:16 GMT
But would they have touched her? Aren’t the peerage snobbier than royals when it comes to who they associate with? Besides Kate was so groomed….. she wouldn’t look elsewhere. Too bad Isabella or jecca didn’t take wills but I believe he’s his father’s son. Very petulant….. just sipping a pimms this morning and waiting for divorce like I was back in 2014 lol.
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Post by kueifei on Nov 17, 2024 21:01:02 GMT
But would they have touched her? Aren’t the peerage snobbier than royals when it comes to who they associate with? Besides Kate was so groomed….. she wouldn’t look elsewhere. Too bad Isabella or jecca didn’t take wills but I believe he’s his father’s son. Very petulant….. just sipping a pimms this morning and waiting for divorce like I was back in 2014 lol. I am talking about commoners like her, not aristocratic men and I did not realize that anyone might have thought I meant that an aristocratic man would have her. Point blank, university is a false equalizer, and I think no one should live at uni unless they need to. If she had been groomed is one thing, but she had choices, she had the ability to break away and get away from that and move on. She could have landed a good man who wooed and won her and treated her right. Quite honestly, I hope William's screw ups act as a lesson for others not to mix with people who only know or meet at uni. If William had moved into an estate and staff of his own and done appearances while doing online coursework and hiring the finest minds money can buy, he would have avoided her stalking mess. I remember going straight into the workforce and maintaining my stock clerk job until my breakdown and go figure, I ended up with a well-stocked resume and good security despite being disabled and mentally ill. Kate is going to end up going from top to trash heap and it will be a hard ugly landing, all of it public. Kate will not have the ability to start over even if she goes to trade school and gets a respectable job. The press will dump on her and the public will know that she prefers to mooch. She would be lucky getting a crappy dept. store job and live in a place with a functional roof. The Windsors will not give her a red cent beyond 'scrap money' and she will not have leverage. Kate is not Diana and she has nothing to her titles except the letter.
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