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Post by kueifei on Dec 1, 2020 19:18:00 GMT
Who knows. COVID is dominating headlines and quite honestly, we will be living in a very different world where royals and their trendy causes will no longer be a priority of focus.
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Post by purple1 on Dec 1, 2020 22:09:53 GMT
Who knows. COVID is dominating headlines and quite honestly, we will be living in a very different world where royals and their trendy causes will no longer be a priority of focus. Their popularity influence and impact are zero now. Royal tours no point.
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Post by Admin on Dec 1, 2020 23:20:43 GMT
Who knows. COVID is dominating headlines and quite honestly, we will be living in a very different world where royals and their trendy causes will no longer be a priority of focus. Their popularity influence and impact are zero now. Royal tours no point. In truth, I think most people are indifferent to them...they just aren't a draw. Oh, yes, to the aging Sloane Rangers, sugars and other still Monarchists who want to remain oblivious to the real talk about them may like them. Oh, and some boneheads on Twitter. lol
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Post by touchstonemomma on Dec 2, 2020 2:53:12 GMT
Their popularity influence and impact are zero now. Royal tours no point. In truth, I think most people are indifferent to them...they just aren't a draw. Oh, yes, to the aging Sloane Rangers, sugars and other still Monarchists who want to remain oblivious to the real talk about them may like them. Oh, and some boneheads on Twitter. lol Her fan base is non existent. To be honest people would be pumped to see a divorce for the dramas sake alone. They are so boring bc nothing about them is real that people would eat a Cambridge divorce up for entertainment
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Post by kueifei on Dec 2, 2020 5:48:16 GMT
I can't get over how much of a waste she made of her life. First her twenties spent (misspent) messing around and now this. She really blew her chances for a remarkable life and genuine respect. She also ended up trashing landmark historical occasions like the Jubilee, the Jubilee tour on behalf of the Crown, and then always starting up one round of exhausting drama after another. I mean, with the chances she had, the opportunities, the help, the resources, she creates a dinky little survey where everyone is supposed to coo over it and I cannot imagine just how tiring it is talking her up to the public and the duchess just cannot or will not deliver on it. I do believe that she's someone who has basically blown through every chance and now the palace might be trying to figure out how to remake her over. There is literally nothing to work with anymore. She has no credibility in terms of keeping her promises and it is clear that she has no real actual ability to handle the day to day routine of even looking presentable.
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Post by touchstonemomma on Dec 2, 2020 12:52:13 GMT
I can't get over how much of a waste she made of her life. First her twenties spent (misspent) messing around and now this. She really blew her chances for a remarkable life and genuine respect. She also ended up trashing landmark historical occasions like the Jubilee, the Jubilee tour on behalf of the Crown, and then always starting up one round of exhausting drama after another. I mean, with the chances she had, the opportunities, the help, the resources, she creates a dinky little survey where everyone is supposed to coo over it and I cannot imagine just how tiring it is talking her up to the public and the duchess just cannot or will not deliver on it. I do believe that she's someone who has basically blown through every chance and now the palace might be trying to figure out how to remake her over. There is literally nothing to work with anymore. She has no credibility in terms of keeping her promises and it is clear that she has no real actual ability to handle the day to day routine of even looking presentable. I think the palace is done trying to help or make her over. William loathes her & her family after what they’ve done and she’s desperately close to being replaced. It’s why she looks on the brink of tears & the media say “it’s just the lighting” lol
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Post by purple1 on Dec 2, 2020 13:58:16 GMT
I can't get over how much of a waste she made of her life. First her twenties spent (misspent) messing around and now this. She really blew her chances for a remarkable life and genuine respect. She also ended up trashing landmark historical occasions like the Jubilee, the Jubilee tour on behalf of the Crown, and then always starting up one round of exhausting drama after another. I mean, with the chances she had, the opportunities, the help, the resources, she creates a dinky little survey where everyone is supposed to coo over it and I cannot imagine just how tiring it is talking her up to the public and the duchess just cannot or will not deliver on it. I do believe that she's someone who has basically blown through every chance and now the palace might be trying to figure out how to remake her over. There is literally nothing to work with anymore. She has no credibility in terms of keeping her promises and it is clear that she has no real actual ability to handle the day to day routine of even looking presentable. I think the palace is done trying to help or make her over. William loathes her & her family after what they’ve done and she’s desperately close to being replaced. It’s why she looks on the brink of tears & the media say “it’s just the lighting” lol Why would they be done with her and her and the family been for the past 3 years using her to bring down Markle and Harry?
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Post by kueifei on Dec 2, 2020 14:09:29 GMT
I agree. She has second rate stuff, has been repeating old stuff, and is clearly kind of being pushed out now that she's proven herself to be worthless. Chances are she will be around for the unprecedented Jubilee of 70 years, but she might be pointedly excluded in one form or another. If she is part of it, she might end up ruining that and that would actually be really epic to see. Quite honestly, I do not believe she will end up making it past the 70th year Jubilee. watching her screw that up will be epic and I will love watching it happen. Will her family end up screwing up the PR via marketing more tack? Will Kate mess up precedence or protocol? Or will Kate be caught out where she shouldn't be and end up causing more troubles? Ever since marriage she has been making one wrong move after another and she really trashed a landmark milestone that should have been more dignified and more respectable. I just wonder how the palace will justify systematically removing her since at the time of the marriage, it was HYPED UP that there would NEVER be any divorce and would NEVER be any kind of going back. And there won't.
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Post by india on Dec 2, 2020 17:12:17 GMT
TQ can say "No Divorce" all she wants but it can and will happen if Willy Boy decides to unload her Potato Head with her fake accent.
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Post by touchstonemomma on Dec 2, 2020 18:49:45 GMT
People should know by now the hyped up stuff is Carole and kates biggest fear. Deep down they knew willy never wanted her there in the first place. He never loved her nor wanted her but they got in by unsavory means. They knew the clock and plotting against them would begin immediately after the marriage. Where they f#cked up was they thought the people would love Kate as they did Diana but the people hate her, the palace hates her, William hates her , the kids are indifferent to her. Starting to notice that KP Instagram & twitter page is promoting Kate only....almost like she knows she’s failed & knows the palace will save & protect William and cut her do she’s overcompensating w her own pr just like the 2007 break up. The divorce will happen.
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Post by touchstonemomma on Dec 2, 2020 18:51:49 GMT
Even in express her fans notice she looks sad and on the verge of tears & the express goes that’s just bc of lighting!!! Lmao oh come on!
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Post by touchstonemomma on Dec 2, 2020 19:04:15 GMT
Kate always was and always will Be seen as the mistress just trying to be the Diana. She is the Camilla type and could have been successful as the Camilla second wife role. However Icarus flew to high to the sun and failure is her only option bc she’s just not that charming or star quality of a person. Never was and never will be, now she’s given room for Williams second wife to flourish and be quite beloved.
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Post by kueifei on Dec 2, 2020 19:47:10 GMT
Can you imagine the backlash? If HM keeps Kate in, Kate will mess up her historic Jubilee and the ranks of royals would be reduced drastically. I also believe that if it were after, that would be a huge mess since Kate would be around people who can't relax and enjoy the spectacle, but would quietly loathe, resent, and be very hostile to her in a way that they aren't already. It would be her being such a failure that HM has to break that word she gave about 'no divorce' it would mean that she would be made into a very public fool. Imagine that dangling over anyone. She would lose face among the other heads of state and would spend a lot of time basically trying to undo that as well. And Kate would be made to suffer for it. She will be made to pay in spades for the mess and if Kate screws up HM's historic Jubilee (and you know she will), she will end up crucified. I mean really, she trashed the Diamond Jubilee with her family foisted on the float and the nude scandal that kind of finished her off internationally. I do not believe that she will reach a point where she can really redeem herself and become the credible consort that she has to be. What I find astounding is how she had so much of a chance and she literally BLEW IT big time. All she had to do was be as self sufficient as possible, pack in at least two engagements a day five days a week plus the obligatory ceremonial gatherings (Ascot/Trooping/Remembrance) and affairs of state (state banquets/honors ceremonies) and just chill. Enjoy a solid, stable, day to day routine and just run/maintain a household). I also believe wholeheartedly that she could have (should have actually) ended up enjoying a solid fulfilling life that would not be disturbed or insecure or anything other than pleasant. Her biggest flaw has been her pathological dependency and perverse determination to make things as difficult as possible to be honest. She had charities/patronages handed to her, she had full control over her own schedule, and she had a black AMEX to actually get all she wanted for appearances. As for social life, she would have to work at that, but she was given a chance and protection as well. She had all the UK's resources at her fingertips and proceeded to throw it all away. She had a shot, a solid chance at making something good of her role and regrettably chose to kick it all in the faces of those who wanted to help her pull it together. The courtiers were ready to help, she gave them the double finger by choosing to smear them to the press. The press gave her adulation, she started suing them nonstop. She spent time being among the people, being one of them, she isolates herself from them. I can't get over how she literally screwed so much of it up. I mean really, trashing a Diamond Jubilee not just through bad behavior, but a literal full frontal nude scandal. A literal full frontal, even Fergie didn't go that low.
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Post by india on Dec 2, 2020 20:03:57 GMT
^ When you are dealing with a gutter snipe, and that is what The Potato Head is, then they will go really low. Do anything to achieve their goals.
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Post by kueifei on Dec 2, 2020 20:06:33 GMT
Kate always was and always will Be seen as the mistress just trying to be the Diana. She is the Camilla type and could have been successful as the Camilla second wife role. However Icarus flew to high to the sun and failure is her only option bc she’s just not that charming or star quality of a person. Never was and never will be, now she’s given room for Williams second wife to flourish and be quite beloved.
Truth be told, she never would have made it if she hadn't ended up the first wife. She was successful because she made the most of the one shot she had and regrettably however blew it after marriage, thinking that it would be easy street.
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Post by touchstonemomma on Dec 2, 2020 20:07:24 GMT
Can you imagine the backlash? If HM keeps Kate in, Kate will mess up her historic Jubilee and the ranks of royals would be reduced drastically. I also believe that if it were after, that would be a huge mess since Kate would be around people who can't relax and enjoy the spectacle, but would quietly loathe, resent, and be very hostile to her in a way that they aren't already. It would be her being such a failure that HM has to break that word she gave about 'no divorce' it would mean that she would be made into a very public fool. Imagine that dangling over anyone. She would lose face among the other heads of state and would spend a lot of time basically trying to undo that as well. And Kate would be made to suffer for it. She will be made to pay in spades for the mess and if Kate screws up HM's historic Jubilee (and you know she will), she will end up crucified. I mean really, she trashed the Diamond Jubilee with her family foisted on the float and the nude scandal that kind of finished her off internationally. I do not believe that she will reach a point where she can really redeem herself and become the credible consort that she has to be. What I find astounding is how she had so much of a chance and she literally BLEW IT big time. All she had to do was be as self sufficient as possible, pack in at least two engagements a day five days a week plus the obligatory ceremonial gatherings (Ascot/Trooping/Remembrance) and affairs of state (state banquets/honors ceremonies) and just chill. Enjoy a solid, stable, day to day routine and just run/maintain a household). I also believe wholeheartedly that she could have (should have actually) ended up enjoying a solid fulfilling life that would not be disturbed or insecure or anything other than pleasant. Her biggest flaw has been her pathological dependency and perverse determination to make things as difficult as possible to be honest. She had charities/patronages handed to her, she had full control over her own schedule, and she had a black AMEX to actually get all she wanted for appearances. As for social life, she would have to work at that, but she was given a chance and protection as well. She had all the UK's resources at her fingertips and proceeded to throw it all away. She had a shot, a solid chance at making something good of her role and regrettably chose to kick it all in the faces of those who wanted to help her pull it together. The courtiers were ready to help, she gave them the double finger by choosing to smear them to the press. The press gave her adulation, she started suing them nonstop. She spent time being among the people, being one of them, she isolates herself from them. I can't get over how she literally screwed so much of it up. I mean really, trashing a Diamond Jubilee not just through bad behavior, but a literal full frontal nude scandal. A literal full frontal, even Fergie didn't go that low.
She’s a blundering idiot and whereas the queen can say no divorce and discourage against it. It’s not forbidden....look at the Phillips, and I think this is why the midds are freaking out they thought they could get nye so popular that they could surpass Charles as king....bc w Charles as king they will get their punishment double fold and she will be divorced quicker than she realizes. Hell even if it went straight to William does Kate realize the minnthe Queen passes its abdicates William can cut her out at his leisure???
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Post by kueifei on Dec 2, 2020 20:14:23 GMT
Given that Kate will screw up the Platinum Jubilee, I am certain that she will end up getting it BAD in the neck once she messes that up. Now the BRF has no idea what to do with her and she has no idea what to do with herself. I do believe that she completely messed up the best chance in history and once Charles is king, she and William will get an epic smack-down befitting their behavior. Charles will most likely be decisive, active, and I will look forward to seeing that mess of a family sorted out as they should be.
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Post by india on Dec 2, 2020 22:07:48 GMT
We are all waiting for the epic smack down. For Years. Let It Happen.
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Post by bonnie on Dec 2, 2020 22:41:24 GMT
Charles will most likely be decisive, active, and I will look forward to seeing that mess of a family sorted out as they should be. I wonder if Charles give them PoW titles right after he is a King. I am pretty sure he won't, he doesn't need troubles with Princess of Wales title if they divorce. As he got PoW years after Elizabeth became a queen. I only wish to look at viper's face when she realise her daughter won't get the PoW title asap.
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Post by kueifei on Dec 2, 2020 23:16:09 GMT
Thing is, that because of this hyper-drive media culture, no one in the press knows how to stop and gather info and do actual research. For some reason, the mainstream media is increasingly unstable and almost as dramatic as the people they cover. The DM is one of them. The DM has always been a tabloid press, but it used to be a lot more stable and steady and regrettably like much of mainstream culture, it has been flooring the accelerator towards hitting a wall. The press is still largely stuck in a 80's/90's mindset where William is still young and hot and regrettably the press is getting WAY TOO INVOLVED in the people they write about. CB (Celebit**y) had a comment on there that a lot of the royal reporters have become way too personally involved with the princes and that the public for some reason believes that they genuinely know and care for Harry just because they saw him walking past them behind their mother's coffin for a few half seconds and then he was past them and moving on. Media columnists really seem to think that they have some sacred paternal duty towards them and that is very delusional.
Kate is part of that culture. She really does believe that once HM is gone, Charles will reign for a tiny short time and during that short time, Kate's past mistakes will be forgotten, she will be young again, and this time, she and William (but mainly she) will run things and tell the establishment how things will be. She must also think that she will get unlimited money and she will be celebrated for being free spending and the world will cheer her freeloading on and like Diana, she will get the best of everything and she will be fawned over and cooed over and will be able to be helpless and silly and the world will indulge it. I do not believe she will make it to Queen Consort mainly since history has shown all of us that 'forever' can end up being temporary. She is so desperate to be given another chance, but she keeps blowing all the chances she gets. She refuses to accept that she has to pay her dues like everyone else and if she had the brains she has been hyped as having, she would realize the magnitude of her luck in landing that ring and do all she can to make something of her role.
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