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Post by purple1 on Jan 12, 2021 14:44:03 GMT
I wonder if Willy Boy resents the Potato Head for her involvement in driving Harry away? Kate follows Williams lead to in the end it’s absolutely Williams fault!
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Post by kueifei on Jan 12, 2021 15:21:23 GMT
I get fed up with how William is viewed as a silly boy. He's a fully grown adult and it is clear that William is no innocent. William wasn't dating Kate while he was introducing his younger brother to booze and drugs. William is someone who is at a point where he is entirely responsible. He has always bullied his brother and Kate has joined in. If he is passive, that is his fault for not taking charge or taking responsibility.
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Post by bonnie on Jan 12, 2021 15:40:01 GMT
I wonder if Willy Boy resents the Potato Head for her involvement in driving Harry away? Maybe he isn't now, but I bet later he will. No matter it's also his fault, W is irresponsible and weak. He will never take a responsibility for this. And yeah Kate is for blame when he'll got everything.
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Post by purple1 on Jan 12, 2021 16:08:08 GMT
I get fed up with how William is viewed as a silly boy. He's a fully grown adult and it is clear that William is no innocent. William wasn't dating Kate while he was introducing his younger brother to booze and drugs. William is someone who is at a point where he is entirely responsible. He has always bullied his brother and Kate has joined in. If he is passive, that is his fault for not taking charge or taking responsibility. He’s been coddled all his life which Harry was not. Harry is more independent and can get things done whilst William has people doing things for him. As I’ve gotten older I can see that it’s Harry who would make a better leader. Even his own mother said it.
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Post by kueifei on Jan 12, 2021 16:26:19 GMT
Quite honestly, Harry is better off staying away from William and now is time for William to put on his big boy pants and take responsibility even at this late stage.
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Post by purple1 on Jan 12, 2021 17:40:20 GMT
Quite honestly, Harry is better off staying away from William and now is time for William to put on his big boy pants and take responsibility even at this late stage. Not even Charles was this coddled! Honestly I don’t see how anyone would choose William over Harry in terms of royal duty and respect tbh.
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Post by kueifei on Jan 16, 2021 19:15:21 GMT
To an extent, Charles was never coddled. He had a harsh school regimen and he had to put up with caning and being jerked around by his peers and it is clear that he was raised rightly to enable him to handle his privileges responsibly. A lot of upper class American kids are raised the same and it is clear that William was raised with the privileges of being upper class, but he was not at all raised with the attendant discipline. He was not at all raised with the reality of family loyalty and he was not raised with consequences. Harry was the whipping post of his brother and it is clear that Harry at least knows how bad it can get if he steps out of line. It is clear that William was not at all trained as he should have been and I wonder how different William would have turned out if he knew just how ugly it is out there for those who do not at all have his protection and privileges. It is a huge shame since William did have all the raw material to make something exceptional of his life and career as a prince. If William had been sent to Cheam and then to Gordonstoun and had been school hard among roughneck peer students, I am certain that William would have been a better person and maybe a much better prince. Instead, he was coddled and it is clear that William was overindulged. William's first order as second in line should have been to protect his brother AT ALL COSTS and should have been eager to protect his brother from unfair harshness by the press. He has no real excuse to have done what he did and he has no excuse at all to go as far as he did. The minute the Midds started going after his family, William should have shut them down and burned Kate out of his life. The minute Kate started preying on Harry, he should have ended up locking her up until she was straightened out. Zero excuse for there to be ANY rivalry between him and his brother.
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Post by india on Jan 16, 2021 21:54:45 GMT
The Potato Head has a lot to answer for in her rabid in-heat treatment of Harry. And The Dumb A$$ Willy Boy just let her rip. She is disgusting and Willy Boy is a stupid incompetent lay about.
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Post by kueifei on Jan 16, 2021 22:05:03 GMT
I can't get over it. Before all of this, before Kate, the two princes were a completely tight unit and were oddly seemingly never at odds. Now this split and it is clear that William needs to be curbed, but since it's too late, might as well let William hit the wall and learn the hard way.
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Post by india on Jan 17, 2021 2:59:47 GMT
The Arrogant Little Shyte definitely needs to learn the hard way. He's got a lot of learning to do.
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Post by kueifei on Jan 17, 2021 3:04:54 GMT
I look forward to William hitting the wall for good. Will be entertaining, seeing him at long last experience this thing called 'consequences.'
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Post by india on Jan 17, 2021 3:09:42 GMT
William has never experienced the School of Hard Knocks. He has no idea what the word consequences means.
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Post by Admin on Jan 17, 2021 4:19:33 GMT
The Arrogant Little Shyte definitely needs to learn the hard way. He's got a lot of learning to do.
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Post by kueifei on Jan 18, 2021 19:21:44 GMT
William has never experienced the School of Hard Knocks. He has no idea what the word consequences means.
All William has to do is stop domineering over his brother and accept the fact that Harry has a right to a life of his own. Harry is seventh in line and there is no reason for Harry to stick around and put up with mistreatment or stay stagnate while William throws his life in the gutter with both hands. Harry should be able to marry almost whoever he wants, live where he wants, and almost choose a career (that stays respectable) and have a happy domestic arrangement. It's not like Harry should always accept less from his family and life just because he is seventh in line. He shouldn't have to have a lesser bank account, a lesser living arrangement (he should have had a palace suite of his own like his brother), and lesser good press just because he isn't going to be king (as William loves to remind the world at every chance) and it is clear that William has no business taking any kind of authoritative position over his brother. William is not even Prince of Wales and as for kingship, that becomes less certain with each generation. All William should do, is shut his mouth (at least in public) and stop trying to control his brother's life.
Tom Bradby: Prince Harry is ‘heartbroken by the situation with his family’
The BRF needs to stop this "FIRM" nonsense and start acting like a tribe, a clan, a family. The Arabs have family divisions, but it almost NEVER spills out in public and whoever is King, is NEVER defied. There is no way that this family operates as any kind of real business and they need to remember that mixing family and business is something that you NEVER do. If the Windsors viewed themselves as a clan/tribe, they would most likely end up being able to survive a lot more and they would be less of a mess. Instead they act like a bunch of CEOs who think they have a right to do what they want and how they want. Realistically, this version of 'family business' is not even like the mafia, since the mob all know that you NEVER go up against family in ANY area. No heir to a mafia headship would EVER openly castigate his parents to anyone (like Charles did) and there is no way that someone like Sophie would survive stating up a business as a member of the 'family' and gossip about relations and survive any of it.
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Post by romilly on Jan 26, 2021 11:42:42 GMT
The RF have lost much support over here with the Covid situation. No one wants to read about Kate’s expensive wardrobe or Charlotte’s £250 boots. Kate and PW offering meaningless platitudes hasn’t gone down well either, they never seem genuine and coming from people who have never had to do with out, problems solved at the flick of a finger and still with brainless sycophants kowtowing to them too.
Thankfully they are not being pushed down our throats quite so much now either as it’s said that the rather brainless PR teams have finally got the message that’s they are really annoying the public.
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Post by purple1 on Jan 26, 2021 15:50:02 GMT
The RF have lost much support over here with the Covid situation. No one wants to read about Kate’s expensive wardrobe or Charlotte’s £250 boots. Kate and PW offering meaningless platitudes hasn’t gone down well either, they never seem genuine and coming from people who have never had to do with out, problems solved at the flick of a finger and still with brainless sycophants kowtowing to them too. Thankfully they are not being pushed down our throats quite so much now either as it’s said that the rather brainless PR teams have finally got the message that’s they are really annoying the public. Since you are form the UK are people indifferent towards Will and Kate?
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Post by kueifei on Jan 26, 2021 19:16:24 GMT
I did read in the biography about William and Harry, that Diana would give extra attention and affection to Harry, since Diana didn't view it as necessary to do the same with William since William was already destined for an immense amount of privilege and power. She kind of moved William into Charles' control and purview and regrettably it left William with a MAJOR void in his development and also left William feeling resentful that Harry got more affection. It was wrong that Diana didn't build William up in ways that would have enabled William to bond better with Harry and talking about how Harry would maybe be a better king was out of line. If Diana had raised both sons with different traits and treated them differently according to those traits, they would have been better off. I do think that if Harry had been groomed to go into a solid profession with solid skills and the expectation that royal duties would be scaled back to doing only major engagements and charity work that he would personally prefer, it would have been better than this idea of a princely double act. Neither prince has similar roles and never will. Harry should have been educated and trained with the role in mind of a prince who would be allowed to be in a profession, but only in solid, respectable areas and a part of his duties would be to bring in jobs and trade and cut deals while his elder brother would do his part of smooth the way by being an excellent host and impress the trade delegates with his social finesse and regal bearing. It would have been complementary roles and it would have ended up keeping Harry around decent types that would bring more than political correctness to a marriage. He might have met a titled heiress or at least stayed out of trouble. I think that this more egalitarian approach has done nothing but cause serious problems and set a foundation for petty rivalry/jealousy that has ended up tearing each other apart.
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Post by purple1 on Jan 26, 2021 20:43:12 GMT
I did read in the biography about William and Harry, that Diana would give extra attention and affection to Harry, since Diana didn't view it as necessary to do the same with William since William was already destined for an immense amount of privilege and power. She kind of moved William into Charles' control and purview and regrettably it left William with a MAJOR void in his development and also left William feeling resentful that Harry got more affection. It was wrong that Diana didn't build William up in ways that would have enabled William to bond better with Harry and talking about how Harry would maybe be a better king was out of line. If Diana had raised both sons with different traits and treated them differently according to those traits, they would have been better off. I do think that if Harry had been groomed to go into a solid profession with solid skills and the expectation that royal duties would be scaled back to doing only major engagements and charity work that he would personally prefer, it would have been better than this idea of a princely double act. Neither prince has similar roles and never will. Harry should have been educated and trained with the role in mind of a prince who would be allowed to be in a profession, but only in solid, respectable areas and a part of his duties would be to bring in jobs and trade and cut deals while his elder brother would do his part of smooth the way by being an excellent host and impress the trade delegates with his social finesse and regal bearing. It would have been complementary roles and it would have ended up keeping Harry around decent types that would bring more than political correctness to a marriage. He might have met a titled heiress or at least stayed out of trouble. I think that this more egalitarian approach has done nothing but cause serious problems and set a foundation for petty rivalry/jealousy that has ended up tearing each other apart. Yeah it was said Diana showed more affection and attention towards Harry but can you blame her? William as the heir had the attention of the The Queen, The Queen Mother(whom it was said she wanted William on her lap leaving poor Harry alone) and the public. It’s wrong since you should treat all your children equally and cater to their needs/personality but she was kind of out of hands. Also no offense but anyone with two eyes can see Harry would make a better king and king in the making than William.
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Post by kueifei on Jan 27, 2021 19:08:17 GMT
William had all that attention, but nothing is like a mother's love that fills you up in ways that are not able to be replaced by others. It is clear that however privileged William is destined to be, he NEVER should have been neglected emotionally by his mother. She had no right to divvy up her love like that. Then to suggest (after suggesting that Charles be overthrown) that William wouldn't make for good king material, publicly like she did, is something that should never have been tolerated. She badmouthed family to outsiders and she of all people would know that, you NEVER do something like that. After mouthing off about how Charles didn't have what it took, she started badmouthing her own son's personality. It did create a rivalry and I do wonder if whether or not Diana thought that William might have liked to skip school on occasion and have a movie day with his mother in her arms.
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Post by purple1 on Jan 27, 2021 20:38:55 GMT
William had all that attention, but nothing is like a mother's love that fills you up in ways that are not able to be replaced by others. It is clear that however privileged William is destined to be, he NEVER should have been neglected emotionally by his mother. She had no right to divvy up her love like that. Then to suggest (after suggesting that Charles be overthrown) that William wouldn't make for good king material, publicly like she did, is something that should never have been tolerated. She badmouthed family to outsiders and she of all people would know that, you NEVER do something like that. After mouthing off about how Charles didn't have what it took, she started badmouthing her own son's personality. It did create a rivalry and I do wonder if whether or not Diana thought that William might have liked to skip school on occasion and have a movie day with his mother in her arms. Diana badmouthed Williams personality? The only thing she said is that while William looks like her it’s Harry who has her personality. That’s not bad to say.
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