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Post by romilly on Jan 4, 2021 7:31:42 GMT
The promised book by Samantha, Meghan’s half sister is about to be published very soon. Meghan was allegedly distraught when she heard about it as it is said to be very derogatory and reveals the true Meghan.
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Post by kueifei on Jan 4, 2021 8:43:40 GMT
I will read it. Meg isn't the eternal victim either and it will be intriguing to read about what she has to say about her half-sister.
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Post by sophia on Jan 4, 2021 16:51:05 GMT
Nothing interesting will come from it. If Samantha publishes anything defamatory she will find herself in court, and can kiss goodbye to her trailer trash life. She hasn’t seen Meghan since 2008, and hardly knows her. How can she reveal the true Meghan? This is just Samantha cashing in on the megxiters insatiable hate, just like Lady C did.
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Post by kueifei on Jan 4, 2021 17:05:44 GMT
If Meg sues her sister, that will be another lawsuit that she can't afford to file. As for Kate, both Kate and Meg clearly have issues getting along with people.
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Post by Admin on Jan 4, 2021 20:55:45 GMT
The promised book by Samantha, Meghan’s half sister is about to be published very soon. Meghan was allegedly distraught when she heard about it as it is said to be very derogatory and reveals the true Meghan. Nobody knows you like a sister...well, in the ways you don't want revealed, of course.
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Post by kueifei on Jan 4, 2021 23:20:21 GMT
I think Meg and Kate are two sides of the same coin; both have unsavory pasts, both NEEDED their princes to provide security in their lives, and both clearly have pasts they would prefer to forget and have forgotten. Kate retreats from her past and the reality of her life by playing up her 'role' as perfectly bred Queen-to-be (something I am seriously fed up hearing) and Meg handles her realities by throwing herself into the role of world activist savior. It is also clear that both are narcissistic primarily because they have SERIOUS personal mental problems and since they are unresolved, they flare up and they lash out. Kate with her lawsuits and feuds with the ladies of the aristocracy and then the antagonistic behavior towards pretty much everyone around her. Kate is also unhealthily dependent and unhealthily emotionally immature. It is obvious by now that Kate has NOT grown beyond needing her mother to direct her life and fact is, she shouldn't have problems dressing decently. When I was going through a bad couple of months, I dressed badly, to say the least, but after I got better, I perked up and cleaned up. Kate should not need to be reminded to wear underwear and it is increasingly obvious that she's seriously disturbed. For Quinn to quit, that is a sign that Kate is more than just inept or even too pampered. The older Kate gets, the younger she acts and it is clear that she is living out a mental narrative instead of being a grounded, smart, stabilizing force in William's life.
As for Meg, Meg acts out her issues by trying to come across at times as some zen hippy chick or condescendingly talking about empowerment and racial issues with the glassy eyed look of a cult leader or follower. She has been lashing out at her father for not being the trust fund daddy she always wanted and it is clear that she is determined to make him pay for her having to make her way in the world. She hates her half-brother and her half-sister is a complete hoot. Meg never gives them the time of day and it is clear that she blames her father for the demons in her head. She blames him for what she thought she should have had in life, not what he gave her. Her father gave her private schools, acting camps, good education and since she was in a sorority, he paid for that too. All that privilege that comes from love and she throws it back in his face and horribly snubs him as the ma who would walk her down a second time and to a real live prince.
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Post by bonnie on Jan 5, 2021 1:16:56 GMT
The promised book by Samantha, Meghan’s half sister is about to be published very soon. Meghan was allegedly distraught when she heard about it as it is said to be very derogatory and reveals the true Meghan. Samantha is nothing but a part of dysfunctional family.
I feel Markle's family is disgusting. Yes, Meg is unlucky this way. On her side of the ocean she has her family and on the other side she has another family. And both are truly BS.
You know, I feel so sorry for all of them. For Kate, Meg, William and Harry. It's bizzare to say, but all what we see now is a result of dyisfunctional families they were bringing in. Because of three dysfunctional familes four grown up people ruin their lives and two of them may ruin the monarchy. Two others already made their contribution.
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Post by Admin on Jan 5, 2021 1:23:03 GMT
The promised book by Samantha, Meghan’s half sister is about to be published very soon. Meghan was allegedly distraught when she heard about it as it is said to be very derogatory and reveals the true Meghan. Samantha is nothing but a part of dysfunctional family.
I feel Markle's family is disgusting. Yes, Meg is unlucky this way. On her side of the ocean she has her family and on the other side she has another family. And both are truly BS. You know, I feel so sorry for all of them. For Kate, Meg, William and Harry. It's bizzare to say, but all what we see now is a result of dyisfunctional families they were bringing in. Because of three dysfunctional familes four grown up people ruin their lives and two of them may ruin the monarchy. Two others already made their contribution. Just curious - who are the two who already made their contribution?
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Post by kueifei on Jan 5, 2021 3:21:05 GMT
Charles and Diana in my view.
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Post by bonnie on Jan 5, 2021 14:10:33 GMT
Actually I am mistaken. It's much more than just two. All of the generations made a lot of mistakes which ruin monarchy step by step. HM with her inability to react, Philipp with his rudeness and stubbornness (car incident for example), Andrew with his scandals, Anne with her scandals. Only one of her kids can show an example of a good family (but it's also some rumors about Ed's playing for another team). Charles and Di are just the cherry on top. The next heir generation is already showed us what they worth. W&H are both not the sharpest knives in the drawer. H just had a little bit less duties (as W was and is always obvious heir) and a little bit more charisma (and also I see a lot of Charles/Philipp in his face, W is more Spencer/Windsor). And the shift between them is the result of destructive patterns of their family. The only problem of W is that he is living in the era of internet. If there are not Internet and mass media - W could live his favourite lazy life with no reporting of what he is doing.
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Post by kueifei on Jan 5, 2021 16:27:00 GMT
Charles made the mistake of wanting to marry a dim bulb and regrettably Charles did not choose to reach outside his limited country/gentry set to actually engage more cosmopolitan, sophisticated women of the world. It's not like Charles went out and put himself out to be decent to women who would expect more out of a man rather than just a title. I also believe that his need to control in inappropriate areas led to his ruination and also, Camilla. Smart ones do NOT want to hook up with a man who clearly has a preference elsewhere and it is clear that Charles never saw any need to make any kind of genuine effort.
As for the duchesses, as a result of their partying, it is no wonder that neither Harry or William could do better.
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Post by Kitty56785678 on Mar 14, 2021 1:37:00 GMT
Hi! I joined because I can’t find anyone mentioning this... I have made little girls dresses for weddings and I have sewn many dresses for my own two girls. Check out Charlottes bridesmaid dress. What was going on with the hem? It was drooping in the back AND the front - what the heck? I think its interesting that there was a conflict that involved Kate and these dresses and her daughters dress looks like garbage.
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Post by Admin on Mar 14, 2021 1:57:56 GMT
Hi! I joined because I can’t find anyone mentioning this... I have made little girls dresses for weddings and I have sewn many dresses for my own two girls. Check out Charlottes bridesmaid dress. What was going on with the hem? It was drooping in the back AND the front - what the heck? I think its interesting that there was a conflict that involved Kate and these dresses and her daughters dress looks like garbage. Welcome,kitty5678! I have moved your post to this new thread. Very timely post, as I was planning on starting some kind of discussion about what "went down" at the fitting. Your post is a great start! Admin
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Post by kueifei on Mar 14, 2021 2:55:57 GMT
Hi! I joined because I can’t find anyone mentioning this... I have made little girls dresses for weddings and I have sewn many dresses for my own two girls. Check out Charlottes bridesmaid dress. What was going on with the hem? It was drooping in the back AND the front - what the heck? I think its interesting that there was a conflict that involved Kate and these dresses and her daughters dress looks like garbage.
I think Kate wanted it one way, Meg asserted herself since it was her wedding and Kate maybe got the dress remade on the sly. I do think that Kate went /after Meg so much that Meg was ready to bolt and Harry chose to leave as well.
I also think that Kate has been chronically antagonistic towards Meg that Meg snapped as anyone would. I think that if Meg made Kate cry, it was because Meg was pushing back and Kate had no idea how to handle it. Kate literally could not fathom that aside from Harry having a right to marry and have a family of his own, Kate would not accept that Meg had a right to decide how her own wedding would be done.
One characteristic about Kate I have noticed is that she really does think she has a right to just march in and start dictating or taking things from people. She clearly thinks that she had a right to date William and live with him in a home that she was not paying rent for and felt she had a right to the jet set life that really should not have been a focus for William. He was at uni to study.
Kate came in and started mooch on ski trips and then mooched via living with him off campus. It wasn't her home and it wasn't her place to just move in as if she belonged there, when she didn't. Then she graduated and thought that it was okay for her to mooch off of her parents and various retailers who sent her freebies and it is clear that she felt it was okay to push Beatrice and Eugenie out of their gifted seats at fashion shows and okay for her to insult Beatrice to the point of tears and the point of public humiliation. Then she started messing with the press and would tip them off and then sue them so much I am AMAZED that they still promoted her as girlfriend material. Then she mooched off of William to go to plush clubs, when he was SUPPOSED to be looking after the men of his regiment when he was their commanding officer. If Kate was using the Clarence House gym, then she's leeching off of Charles and the taxpayer as well.
Then after the engagement announcement was over, Kate moved her fanny right into Clarence House, whooping it up until Charles arrived and ordered her out of his home and she decamped to Berkshire to wait out her wedding. Then there was the fact that she was kicked into the Goring Hotel until the actual day itself and it is clear that she didn't like it. If I had been Charles, I would have publicly frogmarched her out of his house and made sure the media recorded me doing it and pictured me shoving her into a car and ordering the car to leave.
Then after marriage, she starts treating Harry like she's being socially charitable by having him there at engagements, as if Harry is some kind of outsider and she is the insider. She literally could NOT control herself around Harry and started making his personal life her business and supposedly looked up eligible types and pressured him to go for Pippa. None of that was her business, but she pushed her way in anyway and chose to end up trying to domineer over Harry as if Harry was under her jurisdiction.
Now Meg comes along and not only does Kate treat her like dirt as a girlfriend, she ends up pushing Meg around right as Meg is planning a wedding that will be in front of the world. Despite the fact that it IS Meg's wedding it is clear now that Kate wants to tell Meg how she (Kate) would prefer it done, likely pulling rank in the process. I also think that Kate refuse to let Meg have any peace and quiet with Harry and it is clear that Kate was revving up the PR. Then Kate wears that PALE light yellow outfit and almost blends with Meg and acts up pulling all sorts of faces and laughs at all the worst times and gives Meg a horrified look, as if she Kate were not ten times worse. I think that it why Kate isn't invited to too many things, she refuses to behave right. She refuses to dress and behave right.
The likeliest thing is sometimes the simplest explanation and that is that Kate was causing trouble. Her history points to it. The Midds are not a loving family, they are like the Woodvilles or the Boleyns and it is clear that she (Kate) has serious issues getting along with other people. I just think Kate has SERIOUS problems with boundaries and it is clear that she showed herself to be so cheap at Meg's wedding and all this is part the course. then right after, Kate's PR went into hyper-drive and Kate started showing herself off as the best best best consort ever and did all she could to take Meg's thunder and take Meg's credit. I do not think that Kate would treat anyone else differently and it is clear that conflict with anyone was inevitable.
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Post by Admin on Mar 14, 2021 4:41:17 GMT
www.quora.com/Did-Meghan-Markle-really-make-Kate-Middleton-crySupposedly, at a dress rehearsal for her wedding, Meghan said something like “Must she fidget so much?” about Charlotte. And that made Kate and Charlotte cry.
If that’s true, and it might be, I don’t see why that would make anyone cry. It might have made Kate angry or offended, and perhaps hurt Charlottes feelings. But even if it made Charlotte cry, I doubt it did anything more than irritate Kate.
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Post by Admin on Mar 14, 2021 4:55:37 GMT
www.quora.com/What-has-shocked-you-the-most-about-hearing-that-Kate-Middleton-made-Meghan-Markle-crya lot shocks me about this whole thing.
I’m very wary of the fact that the only voice we are allowed to hear is Meghan’s. Anything that is said by anyone else if it is even a tiny bit less than swooning over her is instantly screamed down as lies and smear campaigns. She can and does say exactly what nasty stuff she feels like and yet no one is permitted to give their own view without being called racist.
we get it; she wants the royal family and british people to be tried in the court of public opinion. That’s her choice. She doesn’t get to be a hypocrite and only allow one version of the truth.
she has to allow a fair trial.
Things can always be twisted and spun to control opinion.
I wasn’t there at that dress fitting on the day in question so have no way of knowing the truth but let me just lay out one possible scenario for you but that can sound totally different if bits are left out. This is just an example for the sake of balance and I’m not suggesting it’s true.
Meghan has already been regularly pulled up and spoken to about the way she speaks to staff. She’s been told she’s rude and it upsets them and that “we don’t speak to people this way”. You don’t need to be English or royal or white, or to have had staff before, to know that you don’t be rude to people. Anyone who’s ever eaten in a restaurant knows you’re polite to the waitress. Ever had a domestic cleaner? Do you shout and throw things at them? Nope. Ok back to my example….
They’re at a dress fitting for the bitty little flower girls. It’s all a bit stressful because weddings usually are. This one is more stressful because “what Meghan wants Meghan gets” and Meghan didn’t want an intimate quiet wedding, she wanted a £35 million pound extravaganza, baby.
So Meghan speaks harshly and rudely to Kate’s staff. (We already know this part is fact). Kate gets upset about this and tells her “we don’t speak to staff that way. I’ll speak to my staff, you don’t”. Meghan instantly knows she’s behaved badly and been rightly called out on it and probably feels a bit embarrassed because a few other people saw this exchange.
Instead of apologising she bursts into tears and exclaims “it’s not my fault, I didn’t know. I’m just so suicidal. This is awful. Waaaaaaaaaah”
Kate possibly cries a bit too but is adult enough not to make a big deal of it so says no more and goes home. Harry then comes over and begs Kate to reach out to Meghan who’s having an absolute hissy fit and he’s desperate to stop her threatening to leave.
Kate gives him a hug and agrees to be a big decent person and take her a bunch of flowers and apologise for upsetting her.
would this scenario let Meghan off the hook or should she too have apologised for being so rude and upsetting Kate and her staff?
Technically Meghan is correct to say that Kate made her cry but is it a truly honest version to maybe hold back the bit which makes your own behaviour look less than great and Kate’s behaviour understandable?
It’s all about selective truth.
I could go on.
Take the part of the interview where Meghan says she was at the Albert hall and suicidal to the point she told Harry not to leave her alone. She’d been refused therapy and was literally wanting to die and kill their baby.
This is such a truly shocking and awful thing to hear. So sad! It’s awful. Let’s zoom out slightly and look at things with a more balanced perspective.
This was at a point where she was now regularly being told to stop being rude to people. This isn’t about the British public or British press but also all the Australian staff she dealt with on the Australian tour. Apparently her and Harry were arguing so much they slept in separate rooms. He spent most of his time having to apologise for her. Her and her friend Jessica referred to it as tour crap. She threw tea at local Australian staff and her and her friend were constantly loudly swearing and disparaging all and everything. That was first hand accounts of Australian staff and nothing to do with the royal family or the British press. Just want to be clear on that.
Ok, so she’s realising things are not entirely up to her and there are thousand year old tried and tested rules to follow. This isn’t hollywood a-list stuff - this totally transcends a-list and is an entirely different thing.
She’s struggling with her mental health. I have every sympathy here and do not wish to challenge that claim in any way. She speaks to her husband about it who knows she’s struggling because he’s dealing with it too. He ignores this and tells her she can’t get Help but needs to go and speak to the hr department for palace staff even though they’re not considered staff. This is Harry. Harry who fronts a mental health campaign and who openly speaks of his own therapy for childhood trauma.
We are to believe he prevented his wife from getting help when he had done so himself? Not only did he refuse to allow her to get help, he drags her out to a huge public party when she’s so suicidal she cannot be left alone for a minute or two.
Just to clarify. A lot of them have had therapy. They’re not forced to appear when ill. Kate was hospitalised while pregnant and took time off.
No one on this planet told Meghan not to get therapy. Meghan is a grown a## woman who touts her own strength and independence. She managed to source her own beauty therapists and hairdressers and stylists, dentists and even doctors for her prenatal care. She didn’t ask Permission to source those people. Harry didn’t stop her. The staff didn’t stop her or tell her it wasn’t ok.
Even if they had actively advised her not to she had free access to phone and computers in order to read the stuff that was making her suicidal in the first place. She couldn’t video call her US based therapist?
she had her mum and a wide circle of friends who speak up for her and yet none staged an intervention for her?
She couldn’t fly off to her mum for a few days r&r and some therapy? “They confiscated her passport”. Hmmm she did manage to arrange a baby shower and fly to New York literally two weeks after this suicide thing. She flew with a very famous human rights lawyer who was used to navigating public life with a high profile husband and yet regain dignity and privacy. She didn’t help Meg out? Meg didn’t stay away for longer while she had The chance and get therapy in New York?
“She didn’t have her own passport or driving licence”. Hmmm could that have been because they were sorting out her resident status for her? Could them holding the keys to her car be because they were making sure she wasn’t bothered if it needed to be moved?
ALL the other royals are regularly seen out driving. It’s not a separate rule for the token biracial one.
be real people.
the thing that worries me is the speed with which the british are being condemned as racists. Ours is the most non-racist country. We totally outstrip the US In this regard.
Could it be that perhaps the two points raised by Meghan are the two hot button issues designed to slam the door on real discourse and discussion?
the RF were really pleased to have a biracial woman join them. It’s great for image and diversity and progress. We welcomed her!
what we are not good at is letting someone lie and not speaking up about it. We call that kind of injustice out.
It’s interesting don’t you think that Meg made it clear here’s was to be the only and the final word and any response is lies. She said this even before a response is forthcoming.
So her truth matters but no one else can be heard and we cannot question it? strange.
even when we have so much proof to back us up?
There are two sides. You never ever decide or judge before you’ve heard both.
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Post by kueifei on Mar 14, 2021 5:21:00 GMT
www.quora.com/Did-Meghan-Markle-really-make-Kate-Middleton-crySupposedly, at a dress rehearsal for her wedding, Meghan said something like “Must she fidget so much?” about Charlotte. And that made Kate and Charlotte cry.
If that’s true, and it might be, I don’t see why that would make anyone cry. It might have made Kate angry or offended, and perhaps hurt Charlottes feelings. But even if it made Charlotte cry, I doubt it did anything more than irritate Kate.
I think Kate and Meg are histrionic, but I think Kate was looking for trouble and was eager to be triggered by something that Meg would say or do. I also think that there is a realistic chance that Kate and Meg will in fact ever back down, but I think Kate has been trying very hard to be upset and offended by Meg, no matter how nice Meg is. I have been around people like Kate and believe me, if they want trouble, they will find it.
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Post by Admin on Mar 14, 2021 5:58:13 GMT
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Post by touchstonemomma on Mar 14, 2021 13:46:45 GMT
Who is ever happy in the presence of Kate?
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Post by bonnie on Mar 14, 2021 13:57:47 GMT
I think granny C raises her dear pretty lil princess granddaughter as she believes princess should be - that's why Charlotte may show her tongue or tell "you're not coming" to journalists, bc she is raising with the feeling of permissiveness. Lol, c'mon, that's why Charlotte is Charlotte - tribute to Carole. ABout their fight - it's just stupid. Two grown a$$ women are fighting bc of flower girls dress. Impossible.
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