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Post by Admin on Jun 20, 2020 21:33:49 GMT
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Post by india on Jun 25, 2020 20:41:20 GMT
That was so awful that no one helped those children or any of them. Horrific.
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Post by Admin on Jun 26, 2020 2:47:55 GMT
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Post by Admin on Jul 29, 2020 13:00:28 GMT
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Post by kueifei on Aug 28, 2020 17:50:59 GMT
I wonder how different things would have been if Nicholas had been directed to marry a true Russian aristocrat instead of a foreign royal; Russian women have different temperaments than German women and Alix's Victorian upbringing with Edwardian influences ended up conflicting with the fun loving nature of the Russian aristocracy. Michael, Nicholas' brother, wanted to marry a Russian lady in waiting, but was forbidden and it broke his heart and he ended up married to a divorcee. I think a pure blood Russian would have bonded the monarchy with the people in terms of sentiment and a Russian would have ended up adding more Russian blood to what is supposed to be a Russian monarchy. It might have prevented the introduction of hemophilia into the Romanov line and also prevented the family situation and of course, bringing Rasputin into the mix.
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Post by Admin on Aug 28, 2020 21:54:07 GMT
I wonder how different things would have been if Nicholas had been directed to marry a true Russian aristocrat instead of a foreign royal; Russian women have different temperaments than German women and Alix's Victorian upbringing with Edwardian influences ended up conflicting with the fun loving nature of the Russian aristocracy. Michael, Nicholas' brother, wanted to marry a Russian lady in waiting, but was forbidden and it broke his heart and he ended up married to a divorcee. I think a pure blood Russian would have bonded the monarchy with the people in terms of sentiment and a Russian would have ended up adding more Russian blood to what is supposed to be a Russian monarchy. It might have prevented the introduction of hemophilia into the Romanov line and also prevented the family situation and of course, bringing Rasputin into the mix. The Romanovs were mostly German, and Nicholas and Alexandra were cousins through the Hesse und by Rhine line, for instance. (a mini project of mine right now regarding this royal line and learning more as I go along). I think it was all of matter of different factors coming together that brought on the tragedy of 1918. Hemophilia was a big factor in Alix's family and extended family; with personal tragedies going on in one's life, one could be susceptible to a so-called healer and/or charlatan like Rasputin, and then there were the times, the state of Russia, war, etc. A good topic to weigh in on and speculate about...I know I'll want to come back to it after re-studying it again.  |
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Post by kueifei on Aug 29, 2020 3:05:22 GMT
The Romanovs had married Germans and Danes for centuries and yet Nicholas insisted on dressing like his idea of simple Russian dress and it is regrettable that for all their Russian posturing, Alix and Nicholas preferred to spend more time in England and the German principalities. Neither were in touch and when the Russian people tried to form the Duma and actually SOLVE their problems, Nicholas wouldn't let them do it in peace. I also remember that his daughter Olga wanted to remain in Russia and marry a Russian instead of go overseas and marry a foreign prince. It is bitterly regrettable that that didn't happen. It would have made all the difference.
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Post by Admin on Aug 29, 2020 3:11:29 GMT
A Romanov family tree (for reference)  |
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Post by Admin on Aug 29, 2020 3:14:29 GMT
A tree showing descendants of Queen Victoria with haemophilia/carriers  |
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Post by Admin on Oct 16, 2020 22:33:41 GMT
youtu.be/wRWSIUQfahIRomanovs: The Missing Bodies | National Geographic "It was a mystery that baffled historians for decades: what really became of the missing members of the royal Romanov family, long thought to have been murdered during the Russian revolution? In 2007, bone fragments were found in a shallow grave 70 meters away from the original 1979 discovery site. This intriguing documentary picked up the story as experts, including forensic anthropologist and 9/11 investigator Anthony Falsetti and Chief Scientist of the US Armed Forces DNA Laboratory Dr Michael Coble, tested and analyzed the bones in the hope that they could solve the Romanov riddle once and for all. Rumors long persisted that at least Grand Duchess Anastasia, the youngest daughter, had survived after the chaotic shootings, and several people claimed to be the lost Grand Duchess. Now, as proved in this documentary, with the use of modern technology and the 2007 discoveries, the truth behind this bloody chapter has finally been worked out."
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Post by Admin on Oct 16, 2020 22:41:02 GMT
youtu.be/gSlVgtwAcRAThe Romanovs. The History of the Russian Dynasty - Episode 8. Documentary Film. Babich-Design All episodes: www.youtube.com/watch?v=USUA_... It was 20 years before the beginning of the XX century. The country was in fever. Never before tsar’s power had been as unstable as at that time. It was Alexander III Aleksandrovich who had to take on responsibility for the future of the empire. He was able to extricate the country from economic crisis and turn it into one of the world’s mightiest powers. It was in this condition – at the peak of its power – that the country was inherited by Nicholas Aleksandrovich Romanov. Nobody could even guess at that time that the Russian Empire would collapse soon and Nicholas would be its last ruler, the last monarch of the great dynasty, the House of Romanov.
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Post by kueifei on Oct 20, 2020 2:03:10 GMT
I find it heartbreaking that the Imperial family treated their servants so well that their servants were willing to suffer and die with them than turn to the Reds.
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Post by Admin on Oct 20, 2020 3:51:26 GMT
I find it heartbreaking that the Imperial family treated their servants so well that their servants were willing to suffer and die with them than turn to the Reds. It is quite heartbreaking - almost like extended family members and confidantes very much depended on and loved by the family, than just the "help". What a degree of loyalty. |
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Post by Admin on Oct 20, 2020 17:37:35 GMT
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Post by kueifei on Oct 22, 2020 23:12:05 GMT
I find it heartbreaking that the Imperial family treated their servants so well that their servants were willing to suffer and die with them than turn to the Reds. It is quite heartbreaking - almost like extended family members and confidantes very much depended on and loved by the family, than just the "help". What a degree of loyalty.
In her memoirs, Olga mentioned that the Imperial Family would pay the tuition bills of the families of their servants and all of the staff would want to become doctors or lawyers. It is amazing. In one story I did read that one servant suffered torture for hours rather than give up the location of the family fortune of the family that he served. He broke, but he withstood torture for hours. I also read that the Dowager Empress wouldn't leave Russia on that Danish warship until others would be allowed to escape with her. That took at lot of guts.
I find it amazing how a lot of nobles adapted to life after the revolution. A lot of Romanovs started businesses and one Russian prince worked as a champagne salesman. Then there were others who married well; the princesses and female aristocrats married rich climbers and the princes and male aristocrats married social climbing heiresses. Some women started ballet schools and I find it amazing that many of them went into trade in one form or another and actually enjoyed it. I find it intriguing that many of them loved work and loved a simpler life. Some never handled the change well, but who would, right?
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Post by Admin on Dec 9, 2020 20:47:51 GMT
Something interesting: www.russianhistorymuseum.org/event/grand-duke-michael/?fbcliGrand Duke Michael: Brother of the Tsar An online lecture by Nicholas Nicholson In this lecture, our Director of Development and Romanov scholar Nicholas Nicholson will present new research from his recent book from Academica Press co-authored with translator Helen Azar, Michael Romanov: Brother of the Last Tsar, Diaries and Letters 1916-1918. Using primary historical sources and a faithful translation of Grand Duke Michael’s original observations as a guide, this program will explore the tumultuous arc of his final years amidst the fall of the Russian Empire and the Bolshevik Revolution.  |
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Post by Admin on Dec 10, 2020 1:51:00 GMT
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Post by Admin on Dec 10, 2020 1:59:31 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2020 2:01:11 GMT
I'm not as well versed in Russian royalty as I would like to be, they seemed to have a few love matches.
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Post by Admin on Dec 10, 2020 2:53:00 GMT
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tale BS.
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