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Post by Admin on May 18, 2022 13:22:47 GMT
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Post by Admin on May 18, 2022 13:24:44 GMT
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Post by Admin on May 19, 2022 0:29:20 GMT
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Post by Admin on May 19, 2022 0:30:10 GMT
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Post by Admin on May 19, 2022 0:35:42 GMT
Aside: Okay, maybe not so much about the marriage per se, but will put this here. I know...ick.
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Post by Admin on May 19, 2022 0:40:58 GMT
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Post by india on May 19, 2022 1:09:54 GMT
If Bulliam wants to unload The Stick and her heinous mother The Viper it will happen. There is nothing they can do to stop this.
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Post by kueifei on May 19, 2022 3:25:13 GMT
You know, a divorce would be a disaster in so many ways.
1. Kate pledged herself to her nation, to a life of service and personal sacrifice. If she pulls a Diana and walks out, she will be treated even worse since Kate can't claim that she was in over her head or didn't know what was expected. She can't even claim that she was a duped ingenue and that she didn't have a chance to make a living before being swept up into William's life. She won't be able to complain about not having had a choice. She isn't doing much now, but a final break would be her final curtain. The public will turn on her decisively and where will she live? Where will she work? She is becoming more notorious than famous and there is no way that Kate would get lavish treatment since that era is over and she would not be able to credibly claim that she has no means of making a living.
2. William chose her. William was informed on all the details and he can't claim that he didn't know that Kate was incompatible. He had a decade to figure that out and a decade's worth of behavior@l patterns. There is no way that he can claim that Kate duped him and he can't claim that he didn't have a choice. He had more choice than his father could ever fathom and I am certain that he can't claim that Kate distracted him from his work to the point where he had no idea how to decide what to do with himself. That was mapped out from birth and he can't claim that the palace left him to fend for himself alone against Kate's machinations. If he drops her, he will be a laughingstock since it did after all become part of his PR about how he is so much better than his father because of his stable marriage/so on and so forth.
3. Neither can find anyone decent. Kate would offer nothing, William is feral and out of control, and it is clear that everyone is fed up with the both of them.
4. I sincerely think there is no point to pretending that either offer anyone anything of value. This era of monarchy being entitled to grandeur or put up with the BS of a prince to 'serve a nation' is BS mainly since no one really wants to be part of that era William grew up in. William grew up in a big box era and was entitled to have everything be big big big. William is part of a past that everyone is done with and it is clear that William is unaware that it has all passed him by. It started about 2007/08, but he should have seen the writing on the wall when his wedding coverage didn't even make it anywhere near the population of a corner of the UK/Commonwealth. It's been getting worse and the pandemic just accelerated it. I admit I will not miss it since I never got to enjoy it. William has to start facing that there are far more calls to shut the monarchy down than support William's grand view of himself. As for Kate, she would have it worse. No man would want a woman with her past and since she has done nothing for anyone, there would be no reason for the palace to pay her in great sums to support office operations for nonexistent charity work and there is no way that heads of state would be caught receiving her. Even Diana would struggle in this current geopolitical climate to get received and listened to. Kate has no establishment allies and she's worked so hard to establish herself as a lady of privilege that she has cut herself off from the ties she had as a commoner. Her family would disown her or at least end up taking her in and making it clear that she has to start being practical and get skills and get real work. No man wants a shiftless wife smoking fags in front of the television, not the men she would hanker after/try for.
5. The minute there is a divorce, it would shatter the narrative that only Middle class kids of non-divorced parents would be able to give William a stable family situation. It removes the BS myth of St. Kate of Intact Married Parents. It would in fact ruin that myth that kids from divorced parents are somehow tainted by a statistical increase in marrying and divorcing themselves. I also think that it would permanently end the belief that only middle class girls with fashionable degrees are in fact only good enough to be hardworking, smart, and down to earth.
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Post by Admin on May 19, 2022 12:31:36 GMT
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Post by kueifei on May 19, 2022 16:44:24 GMT
I do not think that if Kate keeps running home to her mother/father, she will soon not be able to get back inside the palaces. She is a full adult and has to stop running back to her parents. She is a royal duchess and should go to another estate or house or castle instead of her family home that isn't her home anymore. There is little to no point to pretending that this is a place for her anymore. She's forty and shouldn't be relying on her parents anymore to help her through her marital conflicts. It's such a slap in the face to women who do not have anyone to turn to or anywhere to go and who are in toxic marriages. If Kate would either stick with the palaces or sit out the after math of a fight, I think she would start to mature and gain William's sincere respect.
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Post by caseyanne on May 20, 2022 15:25:49 GMT
It's far too late for old Waity to mature into anything but a more hateful and ugly old woman. She can't because Ma won't let her which is kind of sad considering Waity IS 40 years old.
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Post by Admin on May 20, 2022 23:40:38 GMT
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Post by Admin on May 20, 2022 23:42:38 GMT
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Post by Admin on May 20, 2022 23:43:36 GMT
Aside: Well? Could be partly true? Oh, maybe it's just me?
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Post by romilly on May 21, 2022 7:16:12 GMT
Her meanness is really beginning to show in her face now and is really accentuated by that awful middle parting. Commenters saying the latter was to deflect from even more alleged face work.
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Post by kueifei on May 22, 2022 19:29:46 GMT
I feel sorry for Kate in a lot of ways.
She went after and latched on to William hoping that he would get her away from her family stress/pressures and did hope that her marriage to him would end a lot of personal unhappiness and insecurity. I do not think Kate was raised with the belief that she was loved for herself and that she would always have a safe/secure home to always come back to. I do not think that Kate ever had real security or stability in her life and I can totally identify with that upbringing. Yet, she chose to believe her mother's BS that only a ring/man (specifically a prince) would do that and it is bitterly regrettable that Kate would go out and create/maintain her own secure place and create her own world. After latching onto William, she was freeloading, but in her brainwashed mind, she was in fact truly doing what was the right thing and it was okay. She really did likely believe that William would marry and take care of her and she would be one of his family like an adoptee and it is clear that Kate didn't see how others were viewing her.
To all of us, she was not working, she was freeloading (she was), but in her messed up mind, she was simply being part of a crew of people she was brainwashed into believing were her own set, she was just a long lost part of the club and was taking up her rightful place at William's side. In her mind, it didn't matter that she didn't have the money to pay her way and develop a concrete profession of her own and it didn't matter that she was in fact in over her head, she persisted in believing what she was raised to believe. After the breakup, it should have been a wake-up call and should have been a realization that she had to get real and get on with her life, but it is clear that she didn't realize that and threw a HUGE hissy fit and managed to get William back.
After that, it was clear that William was just tolerating her, hoping she would see that she didn't belong in the life that he should have been out living. Then the ring, now this. She can't cope anymore and I feel for her since if I had made different choices, I would be living that same kind of miserable marital life.
As for William, I kind of totally feel for him since he was terribly mixed up and made the mistake of thinking that Kate would 'pay off' if he gave her enough, but she hasn't and now his life is an unfix-able mess (along with his reputation). He can't divorce her without being a laughing stock and he can't just flip and straighten up and snap his fingers and get someone who is Alpha. All of those are taken or too smart not to be able to see him for the loser he is. The loser he chose to become. William never did quite understand why Kate wasn't developing a full life of her own and I think this lack of mutual understanding should have been a CLEAR signal that Kate and he were not a good match and it should have been ended permanently in 2010 instead of announcing an engagement. I do not think that it is clear to William that he should have straighten up in 2007 and filed a restraining order rather than end up taking her back as if he owed her anything.
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Post by nyetochka40 on May 23, 2022 8:57:23 GMT
I feel sorry for Kate in a lot of ways.
She went after and latched on to William hoping that he would get her away from her family stress/pressures and did hope that her marriage to him would end a lot of personal unhappiness and insecurity. I do not think Kate was raised with the belief that she was loved for herself and that she would always have a safe/secure home to always come back to. I do not think that Kate ever had real security or stability in her life and I can totally identify with that upbringing. Yet, she chose to believe her mother's BS that only a ring/man (specifically a prince) would do that and it is bitterly regrettable that Kate would go out and create/maintain her own secure place and create her own world. After latching onto William, she was freeloading, but in her brainwashed mind, she was in fact truly doing what was the right thing and it was okay. She really did likely believe that William would marry and take care of her and she would be one of his family like an adoptee and it is clear that Kate didn't see how others were viewing her.
This is spot on. Kate was one of those kids that are raised by toxic parents who are telling them they are only worth of love if they have all A in school. Or are told they have to excel socially and make something of themselves ( in Middleton sisters' case, that means marry a well-off man).
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Post by Admin on May 23, 2022 15:25:30 GMT
I feel sorry for Kate in a lot of ways.
She went after and latched on to William hoping that he would get her away from her family stress/pressures and did hope that her marriage to him would end a lot of personal unhappiness and insecurity. I do not think Kate was raised with the belief that she was loved for herself and that she would always have a safe/secure home to always come back to. I do not think that Kate ever had real security or stability in her life and I can totally identify with that upbringing. Yet, she chose to believe her mother's BS that only a ring/man (specifically a prince) would do that and it is bitterly regrettable that Kate would go out and create/maintain her own secure place and create her own world. After latching onto William, she was freeloading, but in her brainwashed mind, she was in fact truly doing what was the right thing and it was okay. She really did likely believe that William would marry and take care of her and she would be one of his family like an adoptee and it is clear that Kate didn't see how others were viewing her.
This is spot on. Kate was one of those kids that are raised by toxic parents who are telling them they are only worth of love if they have all A in school. Or are told they have to excel socially and make something of themselves ( in Middleton sisters' case, that means marry a well-off man). No unconditional love there. If she didn't hold on tight to what she has now, she will literally and figuratively be left with nothing. Carole will grasp onto William like nobody's business and blame her daughter for any breakdown of the marriage.
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Post by india on May 23, 2022 15:29:54 GMT
I don't feel sorry whatsoever for Khate. Everything bad coming her way will be richly deserved.
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Post by Admin on May 23, 2022 16:24:15 GMT
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