Post by kueifei on Mar 19, 2023 7:27:07 GMT
I think if PW and PH had not been so feral they would have had a chance to marry someone suited for the royal role. However, neither of them had anything substantial to offer a suitable partner. Royalty itself is only an attraction to some women.
With KC. He should have been guided in the right direction to marry someone he actually loved in the first place. The Queen Mother and Diana's grandmother assisted in pushing total unsuitable and unstable Diana in his direction. Diana's sister got out easy. If KC had not outed Camilla on the Dimbleby program then maybe Camilla may have continued as mistress and stayed married to P-B. Once KC outed the affair the P-B divorce happened.
I can see Camilla does make KC happy and they seem to get on well. I can see why elevating her to Queen can be seen by many as endorsing particular behaviours. However, if KC had done things differently when he was younger it would probably be completely different now.
Kate was pushed by her mother and Kate should have stood up for herself during the 2007 breakup - basically walk away as she knew what she was getting into and what William was really like.
I don't see Camilla and Kate as in each other's pockets but are likely to be civil to each other for the sake of things.
Agree keuifei - royal men are stupid... over the centuries there has been a pattern and it is like history repeats itself .
Thing is, that it wasn't just the BRF that pushed Diana at KC; Diana used the press to effectively bully Charles into marrying her and he was railroaded in a way that I kind of understand since it does happen to rather a lot of other people.
Up until Diana, royals stayed among their own kind, their own set and knew the score that was set long before their birth. They would marry for the betterment of the nation, be it prestige or who knows what else, and as compensation they got deference/respect and the privileges were compensation to free them up for a life of public service in varying areas as needed and they would not have to worry about making a living. It really is not as if this should have been even questioned. After Diana however, the princes were allowed to be exposed and experience a life that was foreign to them and still is foreign to them. Diana encouraged them to question and challenge things and each prince inherited Diana's Spencer genes that ill-equipped them for certain unquestioning self sacrifice that is natural for royals. Charles and his siblings never really questioned the way of life and even Prince Andrew didn't challenge his 'place' as a prince. After the divorce Diana continued to urge her sons to remove themselves more and more from that mapped out track and basically run wild and start letting in people who were bad bad bad news. Diana should have known that first impressions are often false and so who on earth can one spot a bad type right away?
It's not all Charles' fault. He never married Camilla right away and he did dedicate himself to his sons and did struggle since that is what fathers do. Neither William or Harry are naturally independent and they took the bad path of dependency and they ended up with bad women in their lives. I do not think either prince realized that 'normal' parents do not want to have their kids in their homes past the early twenties and William and Harry living with their father until marriage is unnatural. Even Charles was determined to move into his own place in his adulthood.