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Post by india on Sept 20, 2020 12:22:39 GMT
As I have said many times: Something has to be done about Willy Boy.
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Post by kueifei on Sept 20, 2020 16:14:59 GMT
I cannot imagine just how ugly it will get once the press finally turns on them. I mean really, after all those lawsuits, all those careers ruined, I am dead sure that he has built up horrific karma for himself. He and Kate have alienated the press, refused to work and therefore ticked off the courtiers who have dedicated their lives to his well being, success, and happiness, and also at the same time, flouted HM at every turn each time she might try to get them to do something constructive.
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Post by Admin on Sept 20, 2020 17:25:06 GMT
I think they had even had a chance at one point to extradite themselves from troubles OF THEIR OWN MAKING, yet chose to go this route. So, zero sympathy from me - they and their flunkies, inlaws, toadies, etc, were building them up and they were banking on getting their own paybacks for supporting Willy; making this dastardly duo feel that they had more power than they really did. Willy and Katie Midds believed the hype and there is only so much patience and tolerance that people have to give. Everybody has a breaking point - it's up to the Press to manoeuver around the so-called restrictions and nasty threats of lawsuits.
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Post by kueifei on Sept 20, 2020 18:04:01 GMT
I don't think they can get out at this point in time. I really do not. There is for them increasingly no way out of this mess they have made for themselves. The press only loves those who sell; Diana sold their editions like hotcakes and that was a huge part of why she was loved and adored by them. She added work and class and panache and zest and it was a GREAT combination. Things is though, that if she hadn't sold, she would have been respected, but not adored as unconditionally as she was. She sold and that is what was adored about her at least in the view of the press.
With William and Kate, they haven't been selling and they haven't been working. That would be one thing, but thing is, that they aren't working. They aren't providing material for anyone to work with. They aren't even adhering to royal routines and they are not just doing their duty in the context that they are letting others get on with their lives.
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Post by india on Sept 20, 2020 19:03:31 GMT
They are awful in every way.
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Post by Admin on Sept 20, 2020 20:40:52 GMT
A response on another forum:
Originally Posted by ******** View Post
True. And since Tatler had every intention of fighting for their article, that they had to remove so much of it after the complaint process shows how much of the original article was unsourced. So even pushing aside the misogynistic and classist barbs, it was a poorly researched article.
So even if the writer and editor had an agenda, I'm not sure an article filled with conjecture and weak factual foundation was the best way to promote the duo's (contempt? dissatisfaction? superiority?) against the Middleton women. An odd hill to die on. One that seemed highly personal, yet the lack of sources show an almost non-exsistant personal connection. Just odd.
It was very well-researched for a tabloid piece - why are the touchy Middletons and sue happy William taking it so personally?
Trust me, they have their sources and they were SPOT ON about Carol and Pippa. The Press and others are tired of the high-handed approach of the very person that is ruining the British Monarchy: William.
Why he feels he needs to play into his in-laws' manipulations and games is beyond me. And my sources tell me that is EXACTLY what he is doing.
Funny, too, how William seemingly allows his in-laws to berate, degrade, and abuse his late mother Diana rather freely on the Daily Mail, too. The stuff that a couple of them (allegedly) are writing is some of the most hateful stuff imaginable. Plus, I have kept a record of what they have written -mean spirited stuff. Yet William is worried about a rather truthful though fluff piece in Tatler? Why, any lay person could ask.
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Post by Admin on Sept 20, 2020 21:46:52 GMT
Quote:
Originally Posted by ^^^^^^^ View Post
Honestly, I'm not sure if this post is suppose to be satire but it gave me a chuckle.
If it's a genuine post then I will address a few things. "Touchy Middletons"- The Middletons have taken more abuse then probably even the royals themselves, yet their behavior has been exemplary. They rarely complain, even when they were hacked, mocked or when editors admitted that Pippa was being photographed 100 times a day. We didn't even hear from "Waity Katey" until the engagement interview. Frankly that family has a skin thicker than rhinos.
"sue happy William"- William doesn't sue often. Filling a formal press complaint isn't suing and is handled outside of court. I think you are confusing him with a different Prince.
"William is ruining the monarchy"- I'm not sure what evidence you have for that, you haven't provided any. And public polls disagree with you.
"his in-laws manipulations and games"- Again??? What are you referring to? The Middletons haven't alienated William from his family or duty. If anything they seem to be an extra support system for him. So??
You mention you have top "sources", yet you live in Canada and can't provide any intel, so you invite skepticism...
Believe what you wish, and continue being condescending and dismissive - I am used to being treated badly by those who rely on conjecture, half-truths, and internet polls(?). Not me not appreciating that there could be another side to the story. I think maybe you should learn how to treat others with some basic respect - not me betraying the Crown and not me who ran around most of her life being lazy, drunk, and flashing my crotch to all and sundry. Maybe save the laughter for the truly ridiculous?
You are so keen to demean and ridicule fellow posters - is there some kind of gain in it for you? And by the way, my sources include close family sources (related to the RF, and gosh oh darnit, live in Canada. It happens!) Happy now?
Honestly...
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Post by Admin on Sept 20, 2020 22:44:41 GMT
And THIS is why I'm an advocate of free speech...
Originally Posted by Ista View Post
A number of posts have been deleted as being either speculative, or in response to posts that are speculative or unsubstantiated. Please see the following forum rule:
--Whenever possible, opinions should be based on factual information obtained from reputable sources and should be backed up by references to those sources. The moderators reserve the right to delete posts containing the more fanciful types of gossip and speculation, whether they originate in gossip magazines and websites or are simply fabricated.
Any further posts along those lines will also be deleted without notice.
How about posts ridiculing other posters?
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Post by kueifei on Sept 21, 2020 6:16:19 GMT
It was very well-researched for a tabloid piece - why are the touchy Middletons and sue happy William taking it so personally?
Trust me, they have their sources and they were SPOT ON about Carol and Pippa. The Press and others are tired of the high-handed approach of the very person that is ruining the British Monarchy: William.
Why he feels he needs to play into his in-laws' manipulations and games is beyond me. And my sources tell me that is EXACTLY what he is doing.
Funny, too, how William seemingly allows his in-laws to berate, degrade, and abuse his late mother Diana rather freely on the Daily Mail, too. The stuff that a couple of them (allegedly) are writing is some of the most hateful stuff imaginable. Plus, I have kept a record of what they have written -mean spirited stuff. Yet William is worried about a rather truthful though fluff piece in Tatler? Why, any lay person could ask.
It's not natural for William to have these issues; he lets his mother get bashed nonstop, but the Midds are sacrosanct? He is protecting the very people who are using him for all he's got! |
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Post by india on Sept 21, 2020 11:05:28 GMT
As we all know: Willy Boy is just plain stupid. Team Viper recognized this immediately and plotted to take advantage of this. It is amazing to me that Charles did not see this and address it.Now he has a huge problem on his hands with the Middletons and their iron grip on his heir and their production of the three fraudlings. The queen has just stuck her old head in the sand and is ignoring it. This problem is brewing and will eventually spew over. Something needs to be done and done soon.
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Post by kueifei on Sept 21, 2020 16:44:33 GMT
Did Prince William & Kate skip Prince Harry’s birthday Zoom with the family?
Tatler removed the ‘Top CEO’ sections from their Duchess Kate cover story |
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Post by Admin on Sept 21, 2020 17:33:22 GMT
Interesting comment:
Becks1 says:
September 21, 2020 at 8:09 am
So, first off, this just makes KP look horrible, because we see that they WILL fight back against negative stories, even ones with sources, and they WILL protect their own. They never saw Meghan as “their own.”
Second – its like we said last week, I think about the Prince Philip story – the BM can be so shady in their way, like here. An article about the removed paragraphs that recites all the claims in those paragraphs and just brings more attention to those paragraphs.
Finally – damn, KP really was mad and embarrassed about that article. The fact that they were still pushing for things to be removed after FOUR MONTHS (when by this point, is anyone besides people like us still talking about it?) is kind of hilarious.
I wonder if Tatler always planned to go along with KP and remove sections, but left it all up there as long as possible to make a point .
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Post by kueifei on Sept 21, 2020 21:12:52 GMT
One would think that Kate would be used to this silliness by now and one would think that William would laugh it off. This isn't something that is malicious and now the Toffs have sent a clear message that they will never consider Kate to be one of their own. There is no way that Kate will be able to go to house parties anymore without resentment boiling beneath the surface or genuine hatred. There is no way that there will ever be any kind of solid reconciliation or any kind of relationship on any friendly basis. William has also likely burned his bridges with that set who are usually his first and most staunch support network. He will never recover from this. He's attacking his own kind like some kind of mad dog and it is clear that he's out of control, just like his mother sometimes was.
I KNOW that Diana is considered a saint in some areas, but she was out of control at times as well. This is just like his mother at her worst and it is clear that William is going to continue attacking anyone who even looks at his precious Middletons the wrong way. He has reached a breaking point and this lawsuit was so pointless. Suing a publication that is largely a silly society magazine is a clear sign that he is out of his freaking mind. This is such a non-issue and he is using taxpayer money that isn't his and I cannot GET WHY he is doing this to his own set. It's so clear that this will be a victory that will end up being just the thing that ends up completely shredding the relationship between royals and nobles. I also believe that there will be nothing but bad vibes from here on out and it is clear that William has just lost his mind for good.
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Post by india on Sept 21, 2020 23:10:38 GMT
I do believe William suffered brain damage when he got wacked in the head as a child during some sports event. He had to have brain surgery. He was never smart and that injury just made it even worse. And then in his twenties, any excessive drinking and drugging he did likely shrunk his brain. And then Team Middleton swooped in and took control of his weak brain. His incandescent raging is a sign of brain damage too. Yes, he has lost what little mind he has. The Middletons have it and they are not letting go.
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Post by kueifei on Sept 22, 2020 3:38:24 GMT
I agree with the drinking and drugs, but I do think that it's not just his brain injury from that assault. I think William is someone who has not grown out of his personal demons and he hasn't manged to adjust and adapt to a world where he isn't the hottest topic of conversation. He grew up during his formative years where the press was al over him and his mother 24/7 and it is clear that he can't comprehend that the world has moved on beyond him. No one cares about his mother who died nearly thirty years ago and it is clear that he can't cope with the fact that no one of quality is interested in hearing about him talk about it as if it happened only six months ago. He was never required to get on with life and he was never required to grow out of that bubble of privilege that never should have been wrapped around him.
He never really took any kind of stand and decided to take responsibility for the people he brought into his family's life and never did end up taking any responsibility for the direction of his life. Instead of relying on the trained professionals of the royal court, he decided to let the Midds direct his life and he never did end up seeing that Kate was distracting him from his work or his relationships with his childhood friends and family. If he had, he would have ended up deciding to file a restraining order. What unnerves me, is that even after all these years, she's still hysterical about being outed as having a Prince William poster on her wall even though it has been DECADES since that occurred. How on EARTH is it some big deal that she had a Prince William poster on her wall? Why lie about something so small and nonessential? How is that a big deal?
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Post by Admin on Sept 26, 2020 18:07:13 GMT
My jaw dropped with this load of you-know-what... So cringe-worthy...  www.celebitchy.com/679727/prince_william_kate_are_raising_the_most_well-adjusted_generation_of_royals_ever/BayTampaBay says: September 9, 2020 at 9:05 am “‘For George, Charlotte and Louis a lifetime of duty eventually awaits” Does anyone think that Charlotte and Louis will actually become working senior royals? Myra says: September 9, 2020 at 9:18 am Poor Charlotte and Louis. A lifetime of cutting ribbons and unveiling plaques await them in exchange for subjecting their chosen spouses and children to public derision. Let’s hope, for their own sake, none of their spouses have charisma. Also, William and Kate will have quite the surprise coming if they believe children raised in Stepford households don’t rebel. Chickaletta says: September 9, 2020 at 9:21 am I honestly don’t think George will ever become a king. Charles may sway public favor somewhat, but IF William is crowned, he will be the last. Myra says: September 9, 2020 at 9:28 am I’ve seen people say the monarchy will end after Elisabeth. I think as long as the right wing press are able to sway public opinion (which they clearly do), the monarchy will continue to exist. It’s only once the influence of the media is completely weakened or there is growing influence of left wing media for balance, that the monarchy would come to an end. The republican movement is considerably weak in the UK. yinyang says: September 9, 2020 at 6:33 pm @myra yeah the right wing is small group but make the top most money thats why they have so much influence especially when the left are not paying attention, case in point Trump. Tessa says: September 9, 2020 at 6:53 pm I wonder about how William will deal with his children finding partners. If he gets as controlling with the children as he had with Harry, They will rebel. notasugarhere says: September 9, 2020 at 9:34 am I’ll bet that’s what Kate and Carole have in mind. But if nothing else, Harry’s departure has set the path for only the heir being a working royal. The two younger kids should be raised to earn a living. And since it is such a to-do about Harry’s titles? They should immediately stop referring to those kids with their HRH or prince/princess titles. Tealie says: September 9, 2020 at 11:31 am I agree, I find it rather ridiculous that children have titles I don’t think any royal child should have titles until they are 18 and elect to have them like Archie or Zara. Feeshalori says: September 9, 2020 at 12:14 pm Zara and Peter aren’t royal and never had titles at birth that they could decide to use when of age. That condition pertains to James and Louise, Prince Edward’s children. BayTampaBay says: September 9, 2020 at 1:02 pm Based on what I have read, the only reason Anthony Armstrong-Jones agreed to accept a title was because Margaret and The Queen Mother wanted David & Sarah to be titled. QEII wanted to do the same for Mark Phillips but both Anne and Mark Phillips said NO!. Rosie says: September 9, 2020 at 4:39 pm they are wonderful parents and their children will benefit from such dedicated parents. love this couple to bits! Clueless9x9 says: September 9, 2020 at 5:14 pm This! Once the heir marries and has a couple of children, everyone else after number ten in the succession line should lose their HRH titles. notasugarhere says: September 10, 2020 at 9:24 am Clueless9x9, they could remove the HRH and titles from the younger two now. Raise them as Mountbatten-Windsor. If something happens to the heir, they could always re-give the HRH and title to the next in line at that point. Rosie troll, well, nice try. Carolind says: September 11, 2020 at 12:48 am I think it is ridiculous the way Kensington Palace gives those kids the HRH and full titles whenever they are mentioned. The Queen probably did the same with her kids but when Charles was young, I think royal staff were told not to address him by his title. I also think it was wrong that a Letters Patent or whatever they are called should have been brought out to make Charlotte and Louis HRH. That should have waited until the queen died. Tealie says: September 11, 2020 at 7:02 pm @feeshalori err, I don’t know what drivel you’ve been reading, but Zara and Peter ARE and have ALWAYS been ‘Royals’ as grandchildren to the Queen, they just do not have titles by choice. |
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Post by Admin on Sept 26, 2020 18:10:40 GMT
I agree with the drinking and drugs, but I do think that it's not just his brain injury from that assault. I think William is someone who has not grown out of his personal demons and he hasn't manged to adjust and adapt to a world where he isn't the hottest topic of conversation. He grew up during his formative years where the press was al over him and his mother 24/7 and it is clear that he can't comprehend that the world has moved on beyond him. No one cares about his mother who died nearly thirty years ago and it is clear that he can't cope with the fact that no one of quality is interested in hearing about him talk about it as if it happened only six months ago. He was never required to get on with life and he was never required to grow out of that bubble of privilege that never should have been wrapped around him. He never really took any kind of stand and decided to take responsibility for the people he brought into his family's life and never did end up taking any responsibility for the direction of his life. Instead of relying on the trained professionals of the royal court, he decided to let the Midds direct his life and he never did end up seeing that Kate was distracting him from his work or his relationships with his childhood friends and family. If he had, he would have ended up deciding to file a restraining order. What unnerves me, is that even after all these years, she's still hysterical about being outed as having a Prince William poster on her wall even though it has been DECADES since that occurred. How on EARTH is it some big deal that she had a Prince William poster on her wall? Why lie about something so small and nonessential? How is that a big deal?
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Post by kueifei on Sept 26, 2020 19:58:21 GMT
You know, Diana was once referred to as "The Actress" and I believe that William is the same. If he were an actor, people would feel fed up with his BS and his lack of work ethic would eliminate his career. Oddly, since he is a prince, people are expected to feel sorry for him and give him chance after chance after chance and it makes me sick that he keeps demanding more out of everyone around him. It really is no wonder that the only people he seems to have left are the leeching Middletons. His genuine friends either have families/lives of their own to focus on or (more likely) they are sick of his drama and sick of having to walk on eggshells lest they trigger a reaction that creates more trouble. I speak from experience. Just like his mother (and Diana did do things that were out of line) he refuses to move on beyond his delusions of persecution and misery and it is clear that decent people have no time for him anymore. I also believe at some point even the courtiers will break and start resigning even if they respect HM for all her years, even that she is Queen. I do not believe much time will elapse before William loses what is left of his staff that is from a respectable background and he will have to hire second rate shysters that will do to him what he has spent his entire 20's accusing others of doing. As for Kate, there really are no words. She has even less excuse. She was not born to any of this and her addiction to her  tale is disturbing. At this point in time, she clearly will not accept that she is not young anymore, she is not a victim, and no one takes her seriously on how keen she is to do something. She has zero to stand on and I am fed up with how she's a glorified housewife and would apparently prefer to mooch in front of the telly and also sue the press on whim and wreck a few more livelihoods and send more people to the breadline. It's also clear that she refuses to STOP letting her family push everyone around and I hope that after this lawsuit, the rest of the aristocracy ostracizes her and refuses to host her at their parties or other events. She's gone too far this time and it is clear that she is at a point where she has really no one other than her mooch family left. That TATLER article was something that has been initially harmless, but she just turned it into another reason for the aristocrats to hate her; she egged William into attacking his own kind and this time it was via legal action and just trashed someone else's hard work. It takes work to put an article together and it takes work to put a publication together. It also costs money and if William took money from that publication via that lawsuit, that is another slap in the face since after all, that is money that should be going towards someone's livelihood.
Between the two of them, they have both successfully trashed every possible chance that could ever be given to someone, to anyone. I mean really, look at all William had just growing up and he threw all of that away. He's the Tonya Harding of royalty and despite all his chances at all his opportunities and personal gifts, he has thrown it all away. I do believe that everyone is fed up with him. He was helped in so many things and yet oddly he refuses to appreciate it and regrettably he throws it all back in everyone's faces. He got a free education, endless vacations, and it is clear that he takes it all for granted every step of the way. After he graduated, he demanded a gap year and then started doing more clubbing than appearances. He then ended up skipping scheduled time with his family and screwed up the schedules that the courtiers placed him on by refusing to fulfill those scheduled duties. He then let his family and childhood friends be bashed and also snubbed heads of state would wanted to meet him. Not to mention the charities that wanted to give their needy recipients a special moment with him. He gave the Prince's Trust the double fingers and just uses the Duchy for money and takes the trashy Middletons on a VIP luxury joyride while ignoring others who would like to enjoy some of the good life themselves.
As for Kate, I'm happy to say that I've said all that I have wished throughout the years.
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Post by india on Sept 26, 2020 20:04:49 GMT
A righteous pair of losers. Both of them.
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Post by Admin on Sept 26, 2020 22:02:14 GMT
You know, Diana was once referred to as "The Actress" and I believe that William is the same. If he were an actor, people would feel fed up with his BS and his lack of work ethic would eliminate his career. Oddly, since he is a prince, people are expected to feel sorry for him and give him chance after chance after chance and it makes me sick that he keeps demanding more out of everyone around him. It really is no wonder that the only people he seems to have left are the leeching Middletons. His genuine friends either have families/lives of their own to focus on or (more likely) they are sick of his drama and sick of having to walk on eggshells lest they trigger a reaction that creates more trouble. I speak from experience. Just like his mother (and Diana did do things that were out of line) he refuses to move on beyond his delusions of persecution and misery and it is clear that decent people have no time for him anymore. I also believe at some point even the courtiers will break and start resigning even if they respect HM for all her years, even that she is Queen. I do not believe much time will elapse before William loses what is left of his staff that is from a respectable background and he will have to hire second rate shysters that will do to him what he has spent his entire 20's accusing others of doing. As for Kate, there really are no words. She has even less excuse. She was not born to any of this and her addiction to her tale is disturbing. At this point in time, she clearly will not accept that she is not young anymore, she is not a victim, and no one takes her seriously on how keen she is to do something. She has zero to stand on and I am fed up with how she's a glorified housewife and would apparently prefer to mooch in front of the telly and also sue the press on whim and wreck a few more livelihoods and send more people to the breadline. It's also clear that she refuses to STOP letting her family push everyone around and I hope that after this lawsuit, the rest of the aristocracy ostracizes her and refuses to host her at their parties or other events. She's gone too far this time and it is clear that she is at a point where she has really no one other than her mooch family left. That TATLER article was something that has been initially harmless, but she just turned it into another reason for the aristocrats to hate her; she egged William into attacking his own kind and this time it was via legal action and just trashed someone else's hard work. It takes work to put an article together and it takes work to put a publication together. It also costs money and if William took money from that publication via that lawsuit, that is another slap in the face since after all, that is money that should be going towards someone's livelihood. Between the two of them, they have both successfully trashed every possible chance that could ever be given to someone, to anyone. I mean really, look at all William had just growing up and he threw all of that away. He's the Tonya Harding of royalty and despite all his chances at all his opportunities and personal gifts, he has thrown it all away. I do believe that everyone is fed up with him. He was helped in so many things and yet oddly he refuses to appreciate it and regrettably he throws it all back in everyone's faces. He got a free education, endless vacations, and it is clear that he takes it all for granted every step of the way. After he graduated, he demanded a gap year and then started doing more clubbing than appearances. He then ended up skipping scheduled time with his family and screwed up the schedules that the courtiers placed him on by refusing to fulfill those scheduled duties. He then let his family and childhood friends be bashed and also snubbed heads of state would wanted to meet him. Not to mention the charities that wanted to give their needy recipients a special moment with him. He gave the Prince's Trust the double fingers and just uses the Duchy for money and takes the trashy Middletons on a VIP luxury joyride while ignoring others who would like to enjoy some of the good life themselves. As for Kate, I'm happy to say that I've said all that I have wished throughout the years.
Thank you, KF. You more than hit the nail on the head!  Willy couldn't make it as an actor, though, so he can continue being jealous and bitter that Harry now seemingly has the shallow Hollywood lifestyle he does not and will not ever have. One thing people may not realize is that actors (not the usual run of the mill overpaid celebrities) have to really WORK for a living. You get long periods of unemployment and disappointment, and competing for jobs with hundreds of others (I know a few actors/producers/directors, etc, plus have studied acting, blah blah blah...) An actor's job is to be AUTHENTIC and believable in their portrayals of characters. It's rather a fallacy to say that actors have to be good liars - they have to be believable. Well, GOOD ones have to be! William cannot even pretend to feel anything about his own life, let alone even try to feel,feign or fake emotions for the public. He has never had to do any soul-searching, or inner reflection, or just be anything to anybody. He's got a huge angry chip on his shoulder and by golly, he is OWED (in his own limited mind). |
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