RoyalGossip 2011 Archive: Random Kate Middleton Chat

Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Ella on January 02, 2011, 11:36:52 pm
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Very good points made above KF. As I've nothing to add, the forum was having trouble loading for me as was the DM, and for a brief shining moment, I thought the wedding had been canceled and the forum and DM were overloaded with people taking in the news. I just figured something epic was going on. Alas, it was just my internet provider being awful. :cry:

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Lieblich on January 02, 2011, 11:38:46 pm
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Mine, too.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Earth Angel on January 02, 2011, 11:55:03 pm
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Me three! ^^^^ I wish we could have been so lucky as to regain access, only to find out this has all been a bad dream and there will be no marriage between the two!

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Scarlet Flowers on January 03, 2011, 01:10:05 am
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Quote from: Yooper on January 02, 2011, 09:46:40 pm
Ok. I'll say something that's been on my mind. How does she sleep at night knowing what ppl think of her? No conscience?

And why should she change? Just because a few (and, yes, we are a few) don't like her doesn't mean she should change. She'd be further criticized.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Earth Angel on January 03, 2011, 01:18:39 am
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^^^^ Inevitably she will have to change or she will face criticism enmass if she does not. Her lifestyle as is will not suffice for a working princess, let alone queen consort. ...

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Ella on January 03, 2011, 01:37: am
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I don't think anyone'd criticizes her if she seemed to grow up, work hard, and take interest in the world around her without needing to be pushed to do so.

I could care less about her clothes, looks, or her background/family if she did any of those things, but a wasted mind and education bother me, particularly when coupled with an attitude that it's all someone's fault. She will be the female face of Britain one day, and instead of using this opportunity to show a girls that being smart, independent, charitable and strong is good, and that there's no shame in working, her only accomplishments, to quote a Guardian article, are: "services to the royal penis"

www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2010/may/22/lucy-mangan-royal-weddings (Old article, but very true)

I'm an engineering student and I've student taught (particularly girls), it's incredibly difficult to find suitable role models for girls that aren't dumb bimbos to encourage them to value themselves as more than objects and teach them that being smart isn't bad; it would have been amazing to be able to say "See, the future queen is smart and has a degree! She's respectable!" but you've got a girl who does little more than primp and pout. She will now exist to be a good role model, but I can't, in good faith, use her as one. "See girls! Act desperate, put up with anything, you'll get a tiara and be kept in the best lifestyle!"

I'd also say the vast majority of people honestly don't care, other than "Oh, that's nice", but would if she was a hardworking girl or had a real interest in charity, and such disinterest is just as toxic as dislike for an institution that is more and more seen as outdated and useless.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: princess_elena on January 03, 2011, 08:13:54 am
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Good post Ella as always. People are not interested with her because she has nothing to show, just bland.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 03, 2011, 08:20:37 pm
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you've got a girl who does little more than primp and pout.

And put on lingerie and spread her legs; didn't men have names for them in the past, I know decent men didn't marry them.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Yooper on January 04, 2011, 07:13:34 am
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So, am I right in assuming that she lives in a bubble of belief? Bubbles. Good nickname for her. She's told what she needs to be told to control her, while, at the same time, she's controlling others. This is one messed up woman.

She can't possibly be only reading the good stuff about her. She HAS to know how people feel. Maybe she thinks she's turned over a new leaf and I'm being too harsh (HEY! It's the new year and I'm trying to be more gracious). Women like this one, however, give all women a bad name and I think that's where the animosity's coming from. Honest.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Earth Angel on January 04, 2011, 03:03:00 pm
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Jack Johnson ~ Bubble Toes

www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F46w1M5A1E

With the hints of sarcasm in the lyrics, it fits that he could be singing about Kate. Not a perfect fit, but funny none the less. lol ...


:thankyou: Yoopers! I thought of Kate when I first heard this song awhile back and you just reminded me!

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Yooper on January 04, 2011, 05:19:08 pm
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It's great! Thanks for sharing the vid,..and you're right.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Kuei Fei on January 04, 2011, 05:32:53 pm
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The blow is kind of fading, but only a short time ago we were all :laugh: our heads off at the thought of Kate getting the ring, but now she has it and she will then end up married and a member of the RF, with the Middleton genes introduced into the royal line, just a generation after some of the finest lineage was reinjected by Diana.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Ella on January 04, 2011, 06:23:55 pm
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I think women like her don't care. I mean, when it comes down to it, barring William snapping or something, she's going the be the queen one day, what does she care, you know?

I think she's too self-absorbed to care. If she wasn't, it wouldn't have taken an engagement ring for her to be willing to work.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Princess Alucard on January 14, 2011, 01:28:10 am
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:sly:
Latest pics of the Conrad-Middleton sisters
community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/55102939.html (http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/55102939.html)

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Queenbee on January 14, 2011, 01:42:23 am
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I have heard they Kate ,and William have been invited to the Golden globes.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Yooper on January 15, 2011, 06:22:35 am
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They' MAY go to the GG's? Ok, then let's get educated:

gawker.com/5733850/lets-predict-the-golden-globe-winners

If those two show up, I'll NOT eat my french chocolate and give it away to someone undeserving.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Grace and Diana Fan on January 15, 2011, 07:07:06 am
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Quote from: Queenbee on January 14, 2011, 01:42:23 am
I have heard they Kate ,and William have been invited to the Golden globes.

OMFG, lmfao - Hahahaha! I couldn't handle seeing Kate's 19th century fashion on the red carpet.
Quote from: Yooper on January 15, 2011, 06:16:35 am
What's even more astonishing is that the latest US press article in People that said we should wait until KM, seriously, are you ready?..."Shows what it means to be a princess."

I canceled my prescription to People on the spot. And told them why. Idiot journalists who don't do their homework make me angry. Trust me. I'm not alone in America on this one. The media has totally misread what people are thinking. KM has ZERO charisma. Well, she kind of has a mesmerizing, one-nighter kinda thing going on, but that's IT.

Princess Ordinary is only allowed to be said by anyone other than PW. That's cruel and classless and he picked her so shut up.

Are you kidding me? Grace, Diana, a handful of British Princesses, and Princesses Victoria & Madeleine already showed us what it takes to be a Princess. I doubt that Kate will even come close. The media is trying their hardest to create another Diana. The thing with Diana's popularity is that it happened naturally, because of her charisma, beauty, style, caring nature, and youth. Nobody knew she would turn into a worldwide Icon. With Kate, it feels forced by the press, and she's done NOTHING. Almost as if they are re-create the magic Diana had, and fill a void left by her. Continuously spewing and shoving bullcrap stories about Kate's teeth. Spare me, please. Enough, already! I think it's wise that you canceled your subscription. Good for you. Honestly, I haven't People Mag in quite a while, and now I think I'll keep it that way.
Quote from: Ella on January 04, 2011, 06:23:55 pm
I think women like her don't care. I mean, when it comes down to it, barring William snapping or something, she's going the be the queen one day, what does she care, you know?

I think she's too self-absorbed to care. If she wasn't, it wouldn't have taken an engagement ring for her to be willing to work.

Ella, you're right about her NOT caring, but I doubt that this marriage will last into William's reign as King. She won't be Queen. She probably won't even be Princess Of Wales!


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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Yooper on January 15, 2011, 07:15:45 am
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If this marriage lasts it will be frozen in the backend of Balmor@l's castle's fridge.

As for the Golden Globes, I've already spoken about that, but kindly bear with me, and see what IS up for the award, which is The King's Speech.

www.smartredirect.de/ad/clickGate.php?u=Fo6Pr2As&m=1&p=0oAj48ggLw&t=rsiu8108&st=&s=&splash=2&url=http%3A%2F%2Fgawker.com%2F5733850%2Flets-predict-the-golden-globe-winners

Perhaps, just perhaps, KM will see what it's like behind the scenes of her tale. I love this movie, so I'm biased.

However, if you want to know what real princesses are like, look no further than Princess Grace. On that I am immovable.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Ella on January 15, 2011, 07:28:43 am
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Quote from: Grace and Diana Fan on January 15, 2011, 07:07:06 am
Quote from: Ella on January 04, 2011, 06:23:55 pm
I think women like her don't care. I mean, when it comes down to it, barring William snapping or something, she's going the be the queen one day, what does she care, you know?

I think she's too self-absorbed to care. If she wasn't, it wouldn't have taken an engagement ring for her to be willing to work.

Ella, you're right about her NOT caring, but I doubt that this marriage will last into William's reign as King. She won't be Queen. She probably won't even be Princess Of Wales!

Wow, I could not have used the word "care" any more than I did...But I do, surprisingly, think it'll last unless she ends it (which she won't) because William's too stubborn to get a divorce like his parents. Even if he does, as long as she has the heir/spare, she's golden; she'll be the future-monarch's mother with a generous stipend because they don't want another Fergie. Once she's pregnant, she's solid.

I agree that they won't be at the Golden Globes though, for one, it's American and despite what anyone wants, it doesn't look like the palace is keen to recreate Diana in America (not that Kate could, but best to avoid the comparisons) or the celebrity angle, and two, don't the royals have something against watching movies about the RF? I heard they never watched The Queen because of it. I haven't seen The King's Speech and I really want to, but I'll probably wait a bit longer since I hate packed theaters.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Yooper on January 15, 2011, 07::52 am
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Discord is something I abhor, and this is not personal, but allow me to at least bring to the table that PW is also stubborn enough, when given a choice between his family's honor and his wife's place, to choose the former. I do not think she has as much power as she thinks. If given a chance, after he has tried, to be given his freedom to do as he pleases and release himself from KM, he will hop on that horse. On that, I have no doubt.

He reminds me of my own son who went to Europe twice when he was in high school and then college and, well, it was a waste of money and then I took him as an adult and the only remark that stuck was, "Wow, was I stupid." (Lesson learned for mom)

In my mind, PW hasn't been given the chance to grow up so he's chosen the kid he grew up with and that's charming and all of that, but I did that, too, and it was a disaster when adulthood showed up.

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Title: Do You Think Kate Will Cheat on William?
Post by: Kuei Fei on March 03, 2011, 12:19:21 am
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Do you guys think that Kate may very well end up cheating on William? I theorize that she will, once she realizes that William is a Prince and not a doormat, plus she won't be able to resist so many other things, among them having an affair when she feels sufficiently neglected and unhappy. She's been faithful because her mtoehr wouldn't let her cheat on a meal ticket.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: mousiekins on March 03, 2011, 12:35:46 am
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Although I think Kate uses her body to get what she wants I am unsure she will.

I think I will wait and see how the marriage changes the dynamics. Kate may get too comfortable and think the ring will never be taken away or she may hold on for dear life and do nothing to compromise her position.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Raisie on March 03, 2011, 12:37:52 am
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Wasn't rumours of Kate cheat on William last year? Can't tell she will cheat on William or William on Kate,so far when the people you never expect happen things.
Also i just wonder,Have Kate ever read a book in her life? somehow i wish to know because so far the example she is leaving to young woman is: go to clubs,go to shopping and wait until your boyfriend propose to you.
The rest are make up of the press trying to put Kate "pretty" but there is no prove of she study other languages,work or be someone who loves reading.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Kuei Fei on March 03, 2011, 12:49:10 am
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Kate isn't the faithful type; she's only been faithful because William is her ticket to the top. Now that her material needs are taken care of, she will end up wanting her emotioanl needs taken care of. She will want to be treated like a lady and she will, I am sure, try ot find a guy who will fill that need for her. Look at how she has acted as if this is arranged and she had no choice but to wait around. In her booze addled mind she has no real reason to be happy and so she might well justify an affair to herself. I just hope it isn't someone else's husband.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Wombat on March 09, 2011, 12:23:43 am
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Photo - Flipping Pancakes (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-kGIr-Pw5epk/TXZPLHbVh9I/AAAAAAAAZnw/9RBB4SFoznQ/s400/Kate%2BMiddleton%2Bshows%2Boff%2Bher%2Bpancake%2B%2B2.JPG)

She's done this quite a lot in pictures that I've seen lately. It's like she's a stroke victim (excuse the link - I'm not making fun of stroke victims)...with her hand all limp and hanging, doing nothing..just hovering over her muff.

Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Kuei Fei on March 15, 2011, 04:13:10 am
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Raisie, the difference is that in your culture, you wouldn't dare behave the way Kate has. This is what I'm talking about when Kate keeps wanting it both ways; she wants the respect of a nice young lady, but behaves like a harlot. She wants the jet setting, the boozing, and the unchaperoned sex fun, but at the same time, she wants to be demure and a noce young debutante when it suits her.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: mousiekins on March 15, 2011, 02:22:19 pm
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It is like Kate saying she was a Virgin at the same time she went down that runway in her underwear.

It is like her acting demure then going out dancing round a pole and having men touch her all over

Or her blushing when someone mentions something 'naughty' then the next day her going to a sex party.

Kate is a hypocrite

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Kuei Fei on March 15, 2011, 03:53:21 pm
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Wanting it both ways really, which is impossible.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Wombat on March 15, 2011, 10:58:29 pm
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Quote from: June on March 11, 2011, 07:00:21 am
Wombat: what do you mean by that? She's crazy? :nervous:
No :laugh: I mean there's an issue with her muff (vagina)..she keeps hovering her hand over it. Maybe it's a self conscious thing as that's where she's invested all her energy over the past few years or maybe there's an itch or maybe a rash of some sort affecting it. Or maybe she's vagazzled :spy:

I apologise for talking about Kate Middleton's nether regions. :legs

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Kuei Fei on March 15, 2011, 11:56:00 pm
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I mean there's an issue with her muff (vagina)..she keeps hovering her hand over it.


She likely has to do it to prevent William's Winky from zoning right into it.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Wombat on March 16, 2011, 12:03:10 am
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It's on automatic pilot :laugh:

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: royal_watcher05 on March 16, 2011, 12:18:45 am
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@ June, actually what I ment was that they go back to thier home town and stay at thier parents house to save money and get to last minute wedding stuff done. Usually, people move away from home, get on jobs on with thier lives, but want to get married in thier home town ( usually b/c family is near by and in thier own church) It has little to do with being pretending to be pure and more with saving money. I doubt I'd stay at a hotel if I could stay at my folks place for fee. When I was a bridesmaid I stayed at bride's parents house along with two other out of town bridesmaids and the bride.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Kuei Fei on March 16, 2011, 01:55:57 am
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If HM was distressed, why didn't she do anything about it?

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Magnolia on March 20, 2011, 07:21:57 am
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Looking at all this why are Lazy and her family getting away with so much people just like fawning and kissing their behinds why? WHAT IS GOING ON!!!!!!! That family is nothing to be proud off is half the public so stupid,broken and corrupt themselves that family is accepted as normal even with all they've done!

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: June on March 20, 2011, 07:33:31 am
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I have long lamented the downturn in societal standards, as I see it ...

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Magnolia on March 21, 2011, 07:50:04 am
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Unfortunately you are right June also the media eggs on all the bad behaviour as acceptable. :thumbsdown:

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: benign on March 23, 2011, 12:23:32 am
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NOTW i swear lol lol

www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/notw/_news/1247049/Kate-Middletonrsquos-sex-party-pal-Emma-Sayle-is-engaged-to-Bothamrsquos-son.html
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KATE Middleton's sex-party pal Emma Sayle is engaged to Sir Ian Botham's son, we can reveal.
Emma Sayle, who runs upmarket swingers' club Killing Kittens, was proposed to on the PLASTERCAST on her broken wrist.
Liam Botham, 33, scribbled: "Will you marry me," and Emma -hurt in a skiing accident-said yes. A close pal said: "It was very romantic and they are absolutely delighted."
Emma, 32, broke the news to friends on Facebook by writing she had a "large rock on her left ring finger". Former rugby star Liam is cricket legend "Beefy" Botham's only son. He has two sisters and is divorced with two kids.

- wonder if shes invited...

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Earl Grey on March 24, 2011, 09:53:51 pm
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRTkCHE1sS4&feature=related


Kate Middleton ladies and gentleman

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Kuei Fei on March 25, 2011, 05:05:06 pm
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I wonder if Kate has something on her record that would have prevented her from getting a job in a normal job setting. It's just so unnatural that she would be so immured and that she would only work under friends or family.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Yooper on March 25, 2011, 05:53:42 pm
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Nice try, KF, but the woman is inherently LAZY and spoiled rotten.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Ella on March 25, 2011, 09:49:16 pm
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Quote from: Kuei Fei on March 25, 2011, 05:05:06 pm
I wonder if Kate has something on her record that would have prevented her from getting a job in a normal job setting. It's just so unnatural that she would be so immured and that she would only work under friends or family.

That would have been outed ages ago. I 100% believe security looked up every single person in his dorm beforehand and dug even deeper into Kate's background once they became friends and would have forced her out (this was before they were involved and the Middletons didn't have their claws in then) if she had anything bad on her.

Working for friends and family makes sense, her whole life, she's never had real friends or anything, the only people allowed around her are people they can control and keep from talking to the press. Working in a normal, unconnected job was never an option because someone without ties would quickly sell the story of how little she does.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Kuei Fei on March 25, 2011, 11:06:42 pm
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That would have been outed ages ago. I 100% believe security looked up every single person in his dorm beforehand and dug even deeper into Kate's background once they became friends and would have forced her out (this was before they were involved and the Middletons didn't have their claws in then) if she had anything bad on her.

I dunno. These days complete maniacs end up going well and good to university and Kate was locked in with William whne the Palace finally noticed; look at dear Uncle Gary, none of us saw that one coming and of course, William stayed. I sincerely cannot believe that Kate hasn't had scrapes of her own and money DOES talk at times. Basic checks are one thing, but Kate might have fundamental personality traits that would make it desirable for the family to keep hidden and not too exposed. At the risk of getting banned, Kate has been caught out lying and I wonder if she might be a pathological liar or she might have sticky fingers. She might not be competent or reliable beyond the usual slacker mentality.

Security might have wanted to force her out, but Kate has been smart in establishing herself, not just in the mind of the public, but William's also. She has been smarter in a street smart sense and I am more than sure that she has been beyond clever with covering her tracks, along with her weasel family. She isn't someone who has been pushed, but is someone who has been part of it all, scheming along the way. She's just as in it with them.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Ella on March 26, 2011, 12:15:47 am
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There's no way she wasn't vetted before they moved in with the other two people after their first year, so there's nothing criminal to her. Neither she, nor her family were "involved" with him at that point, so extricating her would have been easy.

Personality flaws? Definitely, I agree there. They can't move on that though, because to say she's flawed they'd leave themselves open to someone picking apart the royals' personality flaws.

When studying WWII, I had a professor tell me about some crazy plan Hitler came up with that led to the slaughter of one of his best units because they had to protect the guy he touted as his successor. "You have to protect your star at all costs". Not saying the royals are Hitler, but that's what they've done, if the royals were willing to let him take some bad press, it would have worked then and in 2007, but since they're promoting him as "savior of the monarchy", they won't let anyone say a bad word about him. It would have been infinitely better for him to have a few months of "What a cad!" headlines than this, but I doubt they had that foresight.

But, I don't agree with:
Quote from: Kuei Fei on March 25, 2011, 11:06:42 pm
Kate was locked in with William whne the Palace finally noticed;

He didn't his relationship with her from the palace or security at any point. His security would have known they ate breakfast, studied, and exercised together their freshman year, his father would have known she was living with him, and when they lived alone, the palace had to know it was a sexual relationship at least. After graduation when he visited her family, invited her to birthdays, had her visit him at his homes off base, etc. either they're a whole new level of dumb, or they knew and chose to look the other way.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Kuei Fei on March 26, 2011, 01:28:15 am
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If William's security had been so bright, why didn't they prevent him from being around 'dear Uncle Gary' and kept him away, or ordered him to stay away?
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He didn't his relationship with her from the palace or security at any point. His security would have known they ate breakfast, studied, and exercised together their freshman year, his father would have known she was living with him, and when they lived alone, the palace had to know it was a sexual relationship at least. After graduation when he visited her family, invited her to birthdays, had her visit him at his homes off base, etc. either they're a whole new level of dumb, or they knew and chose to look the other way.


But they didn't know about how the Midds make the money, or the state of the Middleton's finances, or about the fascinating habits her brother James has when it comes to maid costumes or dead animals? As for the sex aspect, they might have thought of Kate as a tarty little fling, but they didn't see the pattern developing over her behavior, or about quite a few other choice things that are coming out? As the relationship got more serious and lasted longer, it was so stupid of them not to find out exactly what was going on with the Midds and where ALL their money was coming from. Lets say, the Midds were up to selling copious amounts of drugs as a sideline to supplement their lifestyle; now, a ruthless enough family would have used that as a weapon to tell the Midds ot get out or would have handed the evidence to the government and then let William get a couple singed feathers over the scandal.

The problem now, that they have on their hands, is if something does get exposed, the Windsors will be taken down with them. HM keeps looking the other way and quite frankly I do have to wonder about her and her level of intelligence. The courtiers know, but HM won't let them work their magic to make her disappear.
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It would have been infinitely better for him to have a few months of "What a cad!" headlines than this, but I doubt they had that foresight.

Well, put frankly, I don't think that HM has the foresight and those who do, aren't able to prevent the mess from being made. If HM thought it would end in tears, she could have still ended it in 2008 or 2009. She could have told William that if he dumps her, he will have her full public support and all her private help and he would have left her, I don't doubt it. HM should have sent out a public statement and made it clear that William had her full support in ending the relationship; it's not like she has any business letting her grandson drown in the harrassment of the press, regardless of her personal inclinations, which to me, is just an excuse to be selfish.

If Kate ends up having some serious issues that plague William's family life, HM will be just as guilty by omission for letting it happen; she failed to order Charles to break it off with Camilla when she worried about it and she failed to deal with Andrew when he started hanging around Epstein.
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Personality flaws? Definitely, I agree there. They can't move on that though, because to say she's flawed they'd leave themselves open to someone picking apart the royals' personality flaws.


Ironic, since if William were marrying a royal bride, the press would be SEARCHING for faults in her character; her commoner status protects her from that sort of thing. Something is wrong with her though and I bet she's managed to avoid testing for psychological issues since this was done behind the back of the Court and solidified with the rushed press announcement. You can't tell outright if someone has issues, but they will pop up once she's married and won't have to really keep herself together. Ten years and no work says something is wrong right there.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Ella on March 26, 2011, 03:02:18 am
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I don't know if it was Charles or Diana's security, but one of their PPOs said that they protect their subject, they don't judge or prevent them from engaging in poor choices. Keep criminals away, but Gary doesn't have a criminal record. If asked by HM or Charles who he was with and what he was doing, they would have told, but it seems no one thought to ask. The order to stay away had to come from HM or Charles, not security.

If they failed to vet his housemates and sex partner, that's entirely their fault because they easily could have. Government security has access to far more than a simple background check, they can investigate finances, tax records, communications, etc. After Diana died, there were some photos that went missing from a photographer's house, Once again, Charles and HM would have had to ask questions to make sure everything was good and they failed. A courtier may have raised concern, but HM or Charles were the only ones who could act on it.

I think this falls on royal arrogance, really. Why did they just dismiss her presence in his life? The moment he invited her to an official event, all alarms should have gone off, but I think they assumed she'd be another Camilla, happy to let him marry a proper woman while she got him privately. They should have known William wouldn't do that to another woman. The only ones who could outrank William and his demands decided to let things pan out. While they meant well, it seems to have failed miserably.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Kuei Fei on March 30, 2011, 12:04:48 am
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Given that she's just damaged the reputation of Downe House, I am beginning to understand fully why aristos didn't invite her to their parties and balls; they throw these things to have fun and relax, not walk on eggshells hoping not to offend someone. I know now that if the aristos had had her over and not licked her boots, she would have publicly accused them of bullying her or making her leave in tears. I really, really don't see her putting up with anything and being the type that was bullied or pushed. I mean, initially it was read she was snubbed by the posh set so moved to a more socially open school.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: June on March 30, 2011, 02:23:05 am
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I've enjoyed both of your submissions - thank you, ladies. :thumbsup: :thankyou:

You're both right, to a degree, IMO, but overall, I agree with KF. :BFF:

Ella: of course Kate would have been 'vetted' prior to being allowed into his dormitory, let alone living with him - that is unequivocally true. :BFF: However, there is no getting around the fact that his security was too lax re UG. I don't believe that it was just an acceptable error/lapse of judgment that he could slip out of the country and go to one of the Middleton relatives' house without there being some assurance. It's not as though the Middletons were a distinguished family, whereupon it could be assumed that everything was above board, so to speak.

You are quite right too re: UG does not have a 'criminal record'. But in Oz, many, many people have to pass a criminal check, yet other things lurking will easily get glossed over (examples such as what KF submitted). I won't go into the logistics, because that would be too far off-topic.

My point is: protection for the royals would have to be - or ought to have been - far more rigorous than just a standard criminal check. That is very basic indeed. And, in NSW, one has to sign in order for it to be conducted anyway. I assume that those protecting royals have far more wide-reaching power.

In any event, there was plenty of time for serious questions to be raised after he got "exclusive" with her - I've never considered that he was "serious" until the engagement. And, yet, his security, Scotland Yard, or whatever, HM, advisors, flunkies or whatever did NOTHING.

And, what makes me sick is that William would NEVER have been allowed to date a poor, hard-working girl from honest stock. Kate was considered acceptable because on paper, she had "acceptable" credentials: English, posh schooling, wealthy parents, Church of England, white. It's time for a republic IMO, because the Windsors are just too racist and discriminating for mine. :ick:

Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Nighthawk on April 03, 2011, 05:51:56 am
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Willem Marx leaving a nightclub with his former love Kate Middleton
The Sunday Telegraph | 3 Apr 2011 | UK | English | Released: 0h. 47min. ago | Page: 9

I can't read the article and I'm curious if anyone has heard about this ? keep thinking it's a rehashed story so why bother paying the 99cents

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: benign on April 03, 2011, 05:56:48 am
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^its an old pic but the article is new...the title is:

Kate ensures Marx's place at the royal wedding...so he is invited...

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Nighthawk on April 03, 2011, 06:02:34 am
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:thankyou: benign

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Kuei Fei on April 03, 2011, 06:12:30 am
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Nervous about the four-minute walk up the aisle," she'll arrive with her father by limo because waving to crowds from a carriage is "too nerve-wracking" . .


So she'll be hidden from the crowds too; I thought she was denied the carriage and would be going in the rolls-royce, but now she's going in a limo where she won't be able to be seen; I read that Charles and Camilla will be going in the royce since they don't want to go in the minibus with the other 'cut-price royals' as they're being referred to. I doubt this will earn Kate friends in the Palace.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Magnolia on April 15, 2011, 08:30:25 am
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I wonder if they'll start with the oh she's so wanted now that stalkers are after her now because she's so fascinating.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Kuei Fei on April 15, 2011, 08:32:54 am
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Quote from: Nighthawk on April 03, 2011, 05:51:56 am
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Willem Marx leaving a nightclub with his former love Kate Middleton
The Sunday Telegraph | 3 Apr 2011 | UK | English | Released: 0h. 47min. ago | Page: 9
I can't read the article and I'm curious if anyone has heard about this ? keep thinking it's a rehashed story so why bother paying the 99cents

Kate is being stupid, being seen with a former lover; she's going to be royal and has to protect herself and distance herself from her past lovers.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: benign on April 16, 2011, 05:02:00 pm
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here's Kate for today:
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I just walked past Kate Middleton out shopping with her mum and sis on #hungerford high st, the way one does. Nice landrover.

- nothing change...guess shes staying over in Berkshire not in Wales...

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Just seen Kate Middleton food shopping at M&S Green Park. I like that. Normal. Can also confirm that she is very pretty.
Thursday, April 14, 2011 2:38:31 PM via Über

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Kuei Fei on April 16, 2011, 06:50:31 pm
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I wonder if KAte has a feral personality and that is how she managed to hold on for so long. Carole herself looks ferocious and as for the lack of ambition, I'm sure Carole instilled in Kate the importance of finding a man, not a job. Would explain the lack of professional inititive and interest.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Fernanda Nunes on April 18, 2011, 05:12:03 pm
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entretenimento.br.msn.com/famosos/listas-artigo.aspx?cp-documentid=28398749&page=6

Translation:
Trivia Kate Middleton
Check out some facts about the commoner Kate Middleton, who will become Princess

SAO PAULO - What Kate Middleton and her marriage with Prince William has been the subject of the year, no doubt. The fact is that at some point between the College of Saint Andrews and the first kiss, Kate won the heart of the future King and many people around the world.

A few days ago to become a princess, there is still much about Kate Middleton that were not revealed. How, for example, what was your childhood nickname.

In the following pages, we list 20 facts about the plebeian who soon will join the British Royal family! Check!

1. Kate's mother called Carole, 55, and was a flight attendant. The father, Michell Middleton, 61, was a flight instructor. The two quit their old jobs to start a business event, where even today stand out for online sales of items for children's parties.

2. Parents of the future princess are known for their sympathy. When the press found out about her courtship with Prince William, the girl's father said he was delighted with the news, but believed that her daughter would not turn princess. The mother also has always been known to be smiling and waving to photographers on duty. During an interview with Vanity Fair, a family friend said: "William loves spending the holidays with Middleton because they are very quiet."

3. Kate, 29, is the oldest of three children of Carole. Philippa, or prefers to be known as Pippa, is 27 and is only 20 months younger sister. James, 23, is the newest and is labeled by the press as a party every night.

4. Much is wrong in thinking that Kate is not the royal family. According to a study of their genealogy, the future princess's cousin William of grade 12, bringing it closer to the blue blood.

5. Kate and William have been dating for eight years and lived together during college time.

6. Kate wanted to do the same University of Prince William. So who knew that the future king would do a course at St. Andrews, the plebeian ran and also made his registration. After he was dating William, the future princess had an important role to not let your loved one to let go and finish her college course.

7. Kate, as well as having distant kinship with the royal family, also has family in Gen. George S. Patton, well known in World War II and even hated by his soldiers. Moreover, it is also relative, in 8th grade, George Washington.

8. The couple had a child plebeian common good. At age 8 she became a scout and served as a scout from 7 to 10. During his chores in the camps, Kate washed dishes, cleaned the floor, peeling potatoes and lived with animals, milking cows and feeding chickens.

9. Despite having much contact with animals at the time he was pioneer, Kate is allergic to horses and need to stay well away from them not to be sick.

10. Kate had several nicknames throughout life. While living in housing "Collège Malborough," she did not drink nor smoke, causing friends to call him "Middlebum," a mixture of his surname with the word "bum", which in English means "to make nothing. " Among the closest, Kate was called "goofy" because he loved to make jokes about every kind of subject. Over time - and its fixation by the Prince - the plebeian became known as "Princess in Waiting," which Sigina something like "aspiring princess," as it became known even by the tabloids to confirm the date of their marriage.

11. But Kate likes to be called Catherine. Oops ... sorry, Kate!

12. Despite being commoner Kate Middleton proved to be nothing humble. At the beginning of dating, she would have said that the prince was a lucky man: "He is very lucky to go out with me."

13. During a charity fashion show at the College of St. Andrews in 2002, Kate wore a sleek beyond (and in bad taste, say by the way) and ended up making the stay of Prince William sucker for the commoner. After their wedding, the dress will come to be worth £ 254 000, despite costing only $ 100 to be done.

14. Kate became prominent in the fashion world. The girl, a teenager, was caught with ordinary clothes, also won and ended up in style best-dressed list by People magazine. The mirror seems to be much commoner in the clothes of Lady Di and has been spotted at various events very similar to the garb of the mother of William.

15. Kate is older than her future husband. Despite having almost the same age, William is 8 months younger. That is, it will mark the history by being the first royal bride to be older than the groom.

16. Climbing up to the altar 29 years, besides being older than the husband, Kate is also the wife of the royal family to marry older. This is quite acceptable when we remember that in the past, women married as teenagers.

17. Kate was once known as social climber. She and her sister, Pippa, lived in high society parties and loved to socialize with the rich and famous.

18. Become princess require security. Since it entered into courtship with William, Kate needed extra protection and had bodyguards. Once the wedding was announced, she "won" four bodyguards from Scotland Yard to protect her all the time.

19. Kate has always been very good sports. She has led the rowing team, where he won some competitions and also excelled in the high jump, where he managed to leave a marked record in his school.

20. The engagement ring that Kate Middleton is Prince William won the same ring as Charles, the future king and father, gave to Lady Diana, who died in 1997. The ring is worth $ 774,000.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: benign on April 19, 2011, 06:50:59 pm
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sightings:
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We're ridiculously excited here at HO that Kate Middleton is shopping in Warehouse on Kings Road! #rw2011
about 2 hours ago via web .@itspuj She was indeed! Kate Middleton spotted in Warehouse! #rw2011
about 2 hours ago via web in reply to ItsPuj
.@amira_B we're just waiting to see! We will definitely update you on what Kate Middleton buys from Warehouse!
about 3 hours ago via web in reply to AmirA_B
.SPOTTED: Kate Middleton in Warehouse on Kings Road now!

- lol

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Kuei Fei on April 21, 2011, 06:55:25 am
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Well James Whittaker warned her not to do a Fegie. If she is seen swanning around shopping, nightclubs and on holiday too many times instead of working her arse off after the 29th they will roast her slowly.


She'll do just that since she's going to use her new position to gain the notice and deference of people who used to be wealthier and more socially superior. Ingrid Seward wrote that the fast set Fergie moved in, she constantly was the poorer relation and then she lost her head once she had the "HRH" nimbus and money and jewels. She went from a nothing to a Somebody in the RF and I am sure that Kate will be like Fergie, only this time married to the future King instead of the Duke of York.

For all that we get upset about the monarchy being torn to pieces, at the very least it isn't going to wrekc our lives.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: benign on April 23, 2011, 07:43:48 pm
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www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=10721153

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: June on April 28, 2011, 10:32:40 am
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Sycophantic blog post, but interesting comments ... I've noted a LOT of dislike of Kate on the 'net. I don't believe these are people who post on sites, the posts don't seem familiar.

allwomenstalk.com/why-i-hate-kate-middleton/ (http://allwomenstalk.com/why-i-hate-kate-middleton/)

I can't believe the media spin about this divisive woman. From what I can gauge, most people are a wake up to her and her machinations. This marriage will be a disaster, IMO, and it will be the end of the monarchy. Well done, William. :thumbsdown:

It's not just unwarranted, spiteful hatred; people just don't like to see someone exalted, who has evidently never really worked and is perceived to be very lazy and self-absorbed. It's human nature. The public will never take to this woman and never accept her, IMO. It's too late for Kate to change her past. The smart thing to do would have been to get this woman working, really working, away from her parents, away from her family friends, in a real job, whereby there would be no doubt cast as to her pulling her weight. But this should have happened YEARS ago. Her work history is astonishingly pathetic, even if you accept that she worked for her parents part-time.

By the the time she was 29, she had worked exactly 3 years part-time in her life - if you actually believe that she's been working at PP for real, which I don't. :June: Of course, there was the stint at Jigsaw, which was really nothing, according to those who worked with her. Then there were the odd casual jobs (bar, deck hand), which looked like they were for fun - and perhaps to meet the "right people".

This woman's work history and ethics are abysmal, to say the least. bignono William should hang his head in shame, and so should she, IMO. Of course, she won't, she actually thinks she deserves all her luxury and privilege, by the looks of her - no shame whatever. :rolleyes:

It's sheer arrogance that she has been thrust on to the public this way.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Magnolia on April 28, 2011, 06:26:03 pm
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I found this it's old but to the point.http://m.gawker.com/5696127/prince-williams-marriage-to-old-tramp-is-a-mistake-fears-andrea-peyser (http://m.gawker.com/5696127/prince-williams-marriage-to-old-tramp-is-a-mistake-fears-andrea-peyser) :Kate:

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: berlin on April 29, 2011, 11:01:32 pm
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Duchess of Cambridge bio up on royal website: www.royal.gov.uk/ThecurrentRoyalFamily/TheDuchessofCambridge/TheDuchessofCambridge.aspx

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Elise Von Blah on April 30, 2011, 12:23:32 am
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Compare the length of what is written about her work history vs. her childhood:
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Since completing her degree, Catherine has worked for Party Pieces, a company owned and run by her parents. Alongside her work for the family business, Catherine worked in London as a part-time buyer for the clothing company Jigsaw Junior.

In 2008, Catherine launched First Birthdays, a junior brand to Party Pieces. Her role within the family business included catalogue design and production, marketing and photography.

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Catherine was christened at the parish church of St. Andrew’s Bradfield in Berkshire on 20th June 1982.

In May 1984, at the age of two, Catherine moved with her family to Amman in Jordan, where her father worked for two and a half years. Catherine attended a nursery school in Amman from the age of three.

In September 1986, the Middletons returned to their home in West Berkshire, and Catherine started at St. Andrew’s School in Pangbourne, where she remained until July 1995. Catherine went on to Marlborough College in Wiltshire, where she studied Chemistry, Biology and Art at A-level. Catherine also took part in sport on behalf of the school, playing tennis, hockey and netball and participating in athletics, particularly high jump. Catherine completed her Duke of Edinburgh Gold Award at Marlborough.

Leaving Marlborough College in July 2000, Catherine undertook a gap year in which she studied at the British Institute in Florence, undertook a Raleigh International programme in Chile, and crewed on Round the World Challenge boats in the Solent.


4 sentences vs. 4 paragraphs.

It's petty pathetic.

Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: scarlett on May 12, 2011, 09:59:41 am
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It's surprising to me too. What is odd to me is that, usually men will be more than happy to fool around with a good time girl like Kate, but know better than to marry that kind of girl. I don't really get how PW got himself so caught up that he ended up married to his FWB.

That's interesting info, mousie. It's kind of telling isn't it, that Kate has no real girlfriends to speak of? None even to invite to her own wedding?

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Kingdom Hearts on May 13, 2011, 09:10:11 pm
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@scarlett i AGREE :dontknow: She stalked him and i just can not get it threw my head..Along with her schooling its like she aimed to nail him..its just to fishy for me bignono...so what she had a good education :wopedo: she did not use it tho.She also is a MIllioniar witch in my book is just a snobby rich girl,with NO Limits!..why should she she has everything!! :bored:

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Ceridwen on May 13, 2011, 11:58:22 pm
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Quote from: scarlett on May 12, 2011, 09:59:41 am
It's surprising to me too. What is odd to me is that, usually men will be more than happy to fool around with a good time girl like Kate, but know better than to marry that kind of girl. I don't really get how PW got himself so caught up that he ended up married to his FWB.

That's interesting info, mousie. It's kind of telling isn't it, that Kate has no real girlfriends to speak of? None even to invite to her own wedding?

I completely agree Scarlett! :thumbsup: That's normally the case in that there are certain women that can be fooled around with and certain women to be married to. I don't understand Pr. William's lack in taste in women - trashy and skanky. I'm still shock....

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: mousiekins on May 14, 2011, 03:18:35 pm
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I need to correct a post I made about Emilia and Trudi not being there.

Emilia was with her husband David david jardine paterson www.isopix.be/persfotos_photos-de-presse/emilia-jardine-paterson-14750530-pv.aspx?DDLB_CATALOG=1&VIEW_OFFSET=00000116

and here is Trinny Lough www.isopix.be/persfotos_photos-de-presse/trinny-lough-14740286-pv.aspx?DDLB_CATALOG=1&VIEW_OFFSET=00000411

I think it seems that not all names were released as I had not seen their names anywhere on any list.

Sorry about that :shy:

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: berlin on May 14, 2011, 04:08:06 pm
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I'm so glad to see this! Hopefully Kate will continue to stay close to them.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: benign on May 18, 2011, 03:42:16 am
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www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1387750/Samantha-Cameron-gets-secret-lessons-Kate-Middletons-voice-coach.html
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He also honed the public image of Lord Coe in his London 2012 Olympic campaign.
Gordon Lennox taught Kate Middleton breathing techniques and voice control before her wedding last month and also coached Kate’s brother James, who is dyslexic, to present a word-perfect reading at the service.
- guess all those stories about WK trying to sound posh its somehow true then....

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Earth Angel on May 18, 2011, 05:07:31 am
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^^^ Kate ought to ask the guy to teach her how to sound authentic, if that's even possible. ... :bored:

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 18, 2011, 06:08: am
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Kate is going to cause so much trouble and misery when she is settled into the Court; after all, she has to ruin a relationship of her brother-in-law (to hook him up with Pippa) and then figure out who to bully into marriage with James, and then scheme her way into getting Charles driven out and then proceed to dispatch HM from her throne. Then, once WIlliam is on the Throne, she will have to figure out how to usurp William's position as Sovereign.

She won't stop until she ends up destroying herself, pity she will likely take William and the BRF with her. I just hope she doesn't take the nation as well.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: mousiekins on May 18, 2011, 05:00:51 pm
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Kate's charity work.........

As a Prefect in school volunteer work was mandatory, what she did is unknown

During her Gap Year she did the Raleigh International www.raleighinternational.org/?gclid=CLX-5tXs8agCFUYPfAodAEJ3Cw

At University she set up The Lumsden Club which was a female drinking club. They created the Don't Walk Fashion show which is still an annual event with the proceeds of ticket sales going to charity (last year it was Invisible children a charity I love :thumbsup: )

After Uni she has gone to the Boodles Boxing Ball charity event www.boodles.com/ (click about Boodles and then events) which this year is raising money for the Starlight Foundation

She has also attended a party for Starlight Foundation last year.

During the 07 breakup she joined the Sisterhood Rowing Team but pulled out. The reason cited being Papz and that now she was back with William is was inappropriate. However considering she had a holiday booked all along for the week of the actual rowing race I highly doubt she planned on going a head with it.

Also in 2007 Kate curated a show, an exhibition by celebrity portrait photographer Alistair Morrison. The show was called - The Time To Reflect, at The Shop at Bluebird which is owned by Jigsaw. Half the money raised went to Unicef

www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23423789-first-great-picture-show-from-curator-kate.do

and there you have it :thumbsup:

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Yooper on May 18, 2011, 05:12:27 pm
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Thanks, Mousie. Pretty weak, in my book. It beats nothing, but not by much. Not when we've had it blasted everywhere that the Middletons are millionaires. A lot more seems to have been spent on vacationing, shopping and generally just hanging out. Don't get me wrong; I don't expect her to be Mother Teresa, but she chose to miss many opportunities and I also question PW's influence. You would think that he would, IF he was expecting her to be his wife, would have encouraged her to be more active. Could be wrong. Dunno. But, I remain unimpressed.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: mousiekins on May 18, 2011, 05:18:08 pm
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your welcome.

I have never been impressed either. I have done more then what is above in just this year so far and I am a broke Teacher who works full time and has other hobbies.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: royal_watcher05 on May 18, 2011, 06:01:07 pm
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Thank You Mousie! I knew you would have the answers. Honestly, who knows at this point. I get the feeling that he liked her to be flexible to his schedule. Just my opinon though. I don't neccessarily think she had to do charity work, but rather volunteer. For example at an art gallery so her schedule would be flexible, but why hasn't she done anything since 2007. :think: . I still hope deep down that working in Chile opened her mind to what the world can really like and what poverty is.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Yooper on May 18, 2011, 06:09:42 pm
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Any woman who doesn't have any sense of her self nor feels a need to not only expand her own horizons or reach out to others isn't one worth having.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: rogue on May 18, 2011, 06:52:43 pm
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There is charity and there is charity , i dont want to disparge people for participating in charity events , but i find it very weak .I don't know , those type of events make me feel uncomfortable , charity shouldn't become a place to mix and mingle , if you get my drift :whistle:.I would have love to see if she had taken a more hands on aproach to things attending events for me doesn't count , anybody can show up in a dress.I more bothered with William.What does this say about him??

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: mousiekins on May 18, 2011, 06:56:19 pm
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I think William is very lazy and doesn't like a challenge so Kate being flexible meant he didn't have to do much work as Kate did all the running

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 18, 2011, 07:29: pm
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I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that Kate did what William wanted and since he's had a lot of personal problems, as long as she didn't cause him any problems personally, he was okay with it. Now, that campaigning is over and done with, she will start up, but William doesn't know that. She did what she ahd to do to not survive, but get that ring on her finger. As time went by and she wasted her years, it became about survival, but now she ahs it, she will want to make herself happy.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Alexandrine on May 18, 2011, 07:33:37 pm
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I totally agree with you KF! She was the fall back girl and as he didn't get a chance with anyone else he preferred to marry someone who was totally loyal and will let him do anything he wants.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Earth Angel on May 18, 2011, 08:59:53 pm
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^^^ Apparently William's speech at their evening reception indicated that he felt indebted to her. Perhaps the guilt from keeping her and making her live life his way is what finally caused him to propose?! :dontknow: It's easy to think your in love when someone makes you the center of their world for that long a time period. Their definitely attached to one another, he needs Kate, and she's been his good time girl. I give her credit for learning how to play him. She may make stupid mistakes, but she seems to have played William's game to his satisrfaction. ...

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: True Brit on May 18, 2011, 09:23:54 pm
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Just hopping back to Raleigh International - it's one of those posh Gap year things that middle class kids go on and they pay quite a lot to take part. They tag the charity title to it but it's just dabbling. Some kids do fundraising to pay their way onto the scheme which is good thing to do but many, if not most just get mummy and daddy to pay for it.

As a commitment to charity work goes it's pretty low level.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Yooper on May 18, 2011, 09:26:06 pm
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^^'Indebted'. Interesting word. I'm beyond caring enough to look up the entire speech, but am curious in what context he used the word. If you looked up all the love poems or letters in all the world, I would find it surprising to see that particular word.

So, he's indebted for what? And is she, as I said a million years ago, going to hold him hostage over it? In all my years of marriage I never, ever thought or used that word in conjunction with my marriage or my husband. Did she save him from ninjas, or give him a kidney? I don't get the connection. At any rate, when you feel indebted to somebody, eventually resentment shows up if it never finds an even keel of give and take.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Earth Angel on May 18, 2011, 09:37:29 pm
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^^^ I don't know that William actually used that word. I haven't seen the speech. It was a .Daily Mail article (don't remember which one) that stated "indebted" in the context of her being his "rock". That's why I said "apparently" in the last post. Yet it sounds like something he would actually say. They seem to like feeding each others egos. ...

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Yooper on May 18, 2011, 09:43:00 pm
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It sounds about as warm as 'thank you' after making love. So, this sounds, so far, like, 'thanks for marrying me 'cause nobody else would' or something. Pathetic co-dependency isn't love in any language anywhere on this planet.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: mousiekins on May 18, 2011, 11:22:59 pm
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Back to the charity thing.

Here is her anti charity stances.

After pulling out of the Sisterhood she refuses to donate money to the cause.

Approached by a charity to do some work for them, she says she would love to and swap details, she ignores theim www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1048599/And-DO-Queen-wants-Kate-Middleton-charity-job-counter-claims-workshy.html

Kate has been asked many times to do charity work,’ a friend confided.
‘She is often asked when she is out at parties. I was with her at one event when a representative from a rather high-profile charity suggested that Kate get involved.She was really keen at the time and said she would love to get on board. She gave the organiser all her details but, when they wrote to her, Kate didn’t even reply.
‘She has quite a bad reputation for being rude when it comes to responding to letters.
She often fails to RSVP when she is asked to attend events. She once failed to reply to a wedding invitation from one of William’s friends and it didn’t go down very well.’


Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1048599/And-DO-Queen-wants-Kate-Middleton-charity-job-counter-claims-workshy.html#ixzz1MkGVUgpB

this is actually a really good article that is worth the read as it talks about several issues raised here

Just weeks before the engagement she received an invite to a charity fundraiser for War Heroes however she never replied to the invitation, again being rude

To the dismay of the organisers of the ¬glittering Fashion For The Brave -dinner, which raised money for Help For Heroes and the Army Benevolent Fund, Prince William’s girlfriend, Kate Middleton, not only failed to show up for the event but didn’t even bother to reply to her invitation.

Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1324284/Kate-snubs-dinner-war-heroes.html#ixzz1MkH3NtQT

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 18, 2011, 11:33:15 pm
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It's not like Kate put together the Starlight gala and I do not think that she's going to do well with charity being her full time occupation. She will have to be involved in the planning and know what she's talking about when she goes after the rich for donations.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: danifaul on May 19, 2011, 08:48:49 pm
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Quote from: mousiekins on May 19, 2011, 08:03:03 pm
I am sorry but if me and my boyfriend lived in different countries and we had a chance to see eachother then I would.

ok :flower:
and other events charity? :spy: she forgot!?
Chelsy in 2010 (jan-apr) live in London?

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: mousiekins on May 19, 2011, 09:02:19 pm
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She has only not attended one and she actually informed them after RSVPing unlike Kate not even bothering to answer

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Earth Angel on May 19, 2011, 09:24:38 pm
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^^^ I think this happenstance puts William & Harry on the same level with Kate & Chelsy. SELFISH! There's no doubt in my mind that they are ego driven and have gotten their priorities messed up, Chelsy included!

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: mousiekins on May 19, 2011, 10:08:01 pm
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Chelsy gets leeway with me more then Kate because at least Chelsy works and she has done pro bono too.

Kate has just done nothing

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Earth Angel on May 19, 2011, 10:12: pm
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^^ I understand. Comparing the two is in many ways like comparing apples & oranges, yet I'm not convinced Chelsy is any better of a person. ...

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Alexandrine on May 19, 2011, 10:17:18 pm
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I think we are in limbo with Chelsy now. If she starts working in september and behaves like an adult she will go up in my consideration. But I agree with you EA I do not have a good feeling either.

But she is after all not very important if Harry and her get married, William will probably have children by that time. And Charles wants to reduce the members who work as royals so they may not have an important role to play.

Kate will be probably queen and because of that she is judged more critically.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 20, 2011, 05:14: am
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I hope she understands that the wedding was the peak of public adoration; from here on out, she will have to work for it and then continue to prove herself. I saw the photo of Kate bowing to William and it's obvious she has no idea on how to do so. She should have stood a few more paces backward and why would she bow to William in the first place?

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Kingdom Hearts on May 20, 2011, 05:37: am
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what photo? link please :cookie:

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 20, 2011, 05::24 am
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I saw it in an avatar of someone else on a gossip website.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Kingdom Hearts on May 20, 2011, 05:53:19 am
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darn it :tehe:

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 20, 2011, 06:21:43 am
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Bah, let me pester Mousie about it, she's the only one with the brains to find what we need to know.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Kingdom Hearts on May 20, 2011, 06:33:04 am
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:tehe: oh yes i was pestering her already about the facts on miss.WK.. :eyes: I think Me & you are the only one's up? :-

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 20, 2011, 06:54:02 am
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Yep, we are.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: mousiekins on May 20, 2011, 02::56 pm
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I know the picture you mean (I think) however some think it is her giving William a :whistle: (fill in the blank).

a1.twimg.com/profile_images/1354874668/pwbj3.png

If this is the one you are referring to William trod on Kate train and she was trying to sort out her dress.

On another note, this is an old article but it seemed appropriate with recent conversations on this thread

Kate Middleton: Prince William’s Decade-Long Mistake enclave24.wordpress.com/2010/10/18/kate-middleton-prince-william-decade-long-mistake/

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Princess Alucard on May 20, 2011, 02:53:50 pm
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^ never saw that picture before

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: royal_watcher05 on May 20, 2011, 04:05:59 pm
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MK, Thank You for the photo , certainly not a flattering shot. I also enjoyed the article and it has always annoyed me that she did not work after finishing uni and its always nice to know I am not alone in those feelings ( this board aside). However, I do have a question could she has actually chosen her course of study after pr. william announced his? I assumed you applied to university with a major already chosen. Atleast that was my impression when I was in the U.K.

:thankyou:

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: mousiekins on May 20, 2011, 04:30: pm
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Before William started his Gap Year it was revealed he would be studying Art History at St Andrew's University so Kate would have known for an entire year before what he would be doing.

Hence the 200% rise in applicants to St Andrews and also over 3x the usual numbers applying for History of Art.

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/884010.stm

this story was released Thursday, 17 August, 2000 he started at St Andrews in September 2001.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: June on May 20, 2011, 05:21:48 pm
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Thanks Mousie - interesting. :thankyou:

I have no doubt that Kate is what is considered in law as a "romantic stalker". More fool William for not seeing through her machinations. Just because they are married does not change anything, nor does it mean that he does not know what she's about.

Chelsy will not be taken seriously or be considered any better than Kate - at least in my mind - if she doesn't step up to the plate and dig in to some serious work. She is yet to do so and just presents as a party girl, not serious about any career in law, which is rigorous.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: benign on May 20, 2011, 06:04:15 pm
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Quote from: mousiekins on May 20, 2011, 02::56 pm
I know the picture you mean (I think) however some think it is her giving William a :whistle: (fill in the blank).
a1.twimg.com/profile_images/1354874668/pwbj3.png
f***** speechless :laugh: :laugh:

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Yooper on May 20, 2011, 06:33:31 pm
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Loved the article. It's so validating for me. :thankyou: Mousie.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: mousiekins on May 20, 2011, 09:54:43 pm
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If Chelsy starts work in September she will be fine. She was forced to take this year off along with everyone else who was supposed to start last September due to the recession. However she has been doing Pro Bono work throughout the year so she has not been travelling and partying the entire time.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 20, 2011, 10:27:04 pm
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the difference between Kate and Chelsy is that Chelsy cannot leak about her activities and the press can't run to where she works without facing criminal charges herself.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Dahlia on May 22, 2011, 01:07:19 pm
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I always disliked Kate. Don´t know why. Sometimes I think its stupid, you don´t know her. But when I saw her the first time in a magazine I thought that she has a very negative aura. And when you hear in a docu several years ago in the very Royal loving German channel ZDF that she always wanted to be Princess, I thought: there you have it. An unpleasent social climber. :ick:
Never found Prince William attractive or nice. So two people made for each other :whistle:

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: June on May 22, 2011, 01:19:15 pm
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Quote from: mousiekins on May 20, 2011, 09:54:43 pm
If Chelsy starts work in September she will be fine. She was forced to take this year off along with everyone else who was supposed to start last September due to the recession. However she has been doing Pro Bono work throughout the year so she has not been travelling and partying the entire time.

Mousie: can you tell me what 'pro bono' work she's done? :hug:

All she seems to do is party, party, party - oh, and travel. Sorry, Chelsy is a disappointment to me. She's in her mid-20s - she should be more serious about her career than she appears to be. Law is the type of profession where you cannot have one foot in and one foot out. It doesn't work like say, working in a museum, because of the case law.

I like her personality, but I won't give her a pass regarding her career. She's just coming across as a good-time girl. She could and should have been doing more, IMO - if she wants to be taken seriously, that is.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: mousiekins on May 22, 2011, 04:06:46 pm
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Chelsy did all the education she needed at the same time as her Peers. As soon as she graduated she was offered a job with A&O and accepted. She then did her required course needed to start work there with all the other new Employees and finished in the year required.
However when she finished it was the height of the recession and A&O asked all the new Employees to either resign from A&O and find a job elsewhere (impossible in this climate!) or take one year paid leave. Every single one of the Employees took the one year leave. However there was stipulations to the paid leave and that was to do Pro Bono work which she has being doing with a South African firm. This explains the confusion with the Press saying she had quit A&O and was working for a SA firm instead.
It has been frustrating the Press has been saying she put her work on hold to travel when in fact she was forced to take the year out and has been working in SA.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Dahlia on May 22, 2011, 04:13:02 pm
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I had to laugh so hard about one YouTube comment:

"I love Kate Middleton, she is beautiful. I hate Chelsy Davy, she is ugly."

So people are hateful when they are ugly? :think:

I don´t find Kate beautiful. She is plain and at the wedding she looked like a guy. Chelsy has her moments where she is shining, but sometimes wow, like at the wedding. :tehe:

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Nighthawk on May 22, 2011, 04:42:48 pm
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Quote from: Dahlia on May 22, 2011, 04:13:02 pm
I had to laugh so hard about one YouTube comment:
I hate Chelsy Davy, she is ugly."

they must be jealous of chelsy to think she's ugly :whistle: :laugh: works for people who think WK is ugly :king:

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Dahlia on May 22, 2011, 04:57:45 pm
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The difference is that Chelsy is a beautiful person. Not a beauty ITA. But really I saw at the wedding an old hag in a bridal dress. Not just because of the heavy make up, no Kates personality shone out. Don´t know what Chelsy did. But she was still more beautiful IMO. :cookie:
Quote from: mousiekins on May 22, 2011, 04:06:46 pm
Chelsy did all the education she needed at the same time as her Peers. As soon as she graduated she was offered a job with A&O and accepted. She then did her required course needed to start work there with all the other new Employees and finished in the year required.
However when she finished it was the height of the recession and A&O asked all the new Employees to either resign from A&O and find a job elsewhere (impossible in this climate!) or take one year paid leave. Every single one of the Employees took the one year leave. However there was stipulations to the paid leave and that was to do Pro Bono work which she has being doing with a South African firm. This explains the confusion with the Press saying she had quit A&O and was working for a SA firm instead.
It has been frustrating the Press has been saying she put her work on hold to travel when in fact she was forced to take the year out and has been working in SA.

Isn´t she just 26? I think there will be more. Don´t know why the pressure on her.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 26, 2011, 04:11: am
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I am shocked at how thin she is. Usually the photos add many pounds, so I cannot imagine hwo bad she looks in real life. I wonder if she's either becoming unglued or she's still frantically dieting. I have the theory that she has been losing William's love and is frantic to keep it; he might have not been in love, but loved her, but it's likely that she is losing his love of her as well as a person. I think he has stopped loving her as a person/friend, or it is ending and once he is past indifference, resentment will set in, and then hatred in time. I can only think that during the engagement, he started to lose interest in her and started to wonder why people don't see her as unsuitable, but they didn't. Now with the marriage, Kate has all she wants and now he doesn't give a rat's arse about if the press is bothering her, or if she feels bored, or if she wants to go shopping, or if he wants to go out and play, he will expect her to fend for herself and he doesn't care about her problems or issues or needs.

I don't think she knows how to get his attention other than acting out, but I personally think that he will literally shut down towards her emotionally and psychologically, leaving her ot self destruct since she can't seem to get herself together.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: June on May 26, 2011, 05:16:51 am
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Quote from: windsor2 on May 26, 2011, 12:02:50 am
It's a shame that Chelsey has the reputation as a good time girl. It's unfortunate because I really like her. She seems to be genuine in her feelings for Harry and has a good head on her shoulders. My only critique of her is that I wished that she didn't give the press ammunition with actions and dress. They'd be forced to talk about how smart she is.
I can't stand that the press has to bash other to make this pathetic, lazy, useless Waity look good. It's truly sickening.

That's true, but all she needs to do is show that she's seriously working: actions speak louder than words. Apparently, she's been doing pro bono work, but it's not enough to deflect the bad press. It is obviously only intermittent.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 26, 2011, 06:11:10 am
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Chelsy should not have to advertise herself like she's on some presidential campaign like Kate has; it's such a pity that the press fancies itself as part of the royal bride vetting process and if they wanted, I am sure that they would also tell when it is time to start having babies. Looks like Kate will end up costing Harry true happiness as well as Chelsy. Like Chelsy, most women do not want to run a literal presidential campaign to marry a man; she shouldn't have to have a PR specialist release the details of her latest workload and her cases and brag about how she manages to sharpen her own pencils. Unlike Kate, Chelsy is still young and has a life to lead.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: mousiekins on May 26, 2011, 02:14:23 pm
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If she contacted or asked a friend to tell the press

" Look I am on a 1 year deferement I did not quit" or " I have been doing Pro Bono in SA" then she would be lambasted by the press and public for speaking to the press.

She already has been even though she has barely spoken to them.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: benign on May 27, 2011, 01:18:59 am
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Richard Kay:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1391301/Lord-Winston-despair-BBC-chaos.html
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close friend of both Prince William and Kate — she dates Kate’s pre-Wills boyfriend Rupert Finch — Natasha has launched her first season as a fashion designer with her own ethical brand Beulah.
When asked if she would like to dress Kate, Natasha — Nats to friends — tells me firmly: ‘I just want to concentrate on the brand and don’t want that to be the link.’

- cool...

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: June on May 27, 2011, 01:56:29 am
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KF and Mousie: there seems to be a misunderstanding of my posts re Chelsy. Firstly, I never suggested what Chelsy should and should not do to garner a better press image if she so chooses to not care. I'm only referencing the fact that if this girl wants to be taken seriously, then she'll need to change the way she is perceived. I'm not invested with this girl, as she's never been in line to be Queen Consort. Secondly, I know that Chelsy probably couldn't give a flying fig as to what the press thinks of her. More power to her! :thumbsup:

I like Chelsy; her spirit, her energy, intelligence, motivation, her natural ease, open, friendly manner, her emotional independence, lack of pretence and her refusal to conform to what many expect of her, given her royal boyfriend.

We know that Chelsy does it tougher than Lazy Waity by reason that she was/is with the so-called Naughty Prince (Harry) and not the Golden Prince (William). All I was meaning to convey is that IF - and it's a big "if" - Chelsy wants to have a better public image, then she needs to start working seriously. No one takes a lawyer seriously if all they are known for is partying and exotic holidays. Fairly, or unfairly, that is Chelsy's image, with, regrettably, a peripheral point being that she has been studying/qualifying for law.

And, I disagree re Chelsy's age: she's 25, it's time for her to grow up too - if she wants to be taken seriously. She has no legal career of note: it's all speculation, presumption and quite frankly, a lot of supposition. If and when she takes up that A & O position, or any other, and she starts working FULL-TIME, then I shall accord her the credit she will deserve. Until that time, I shall not and reserve my position regarding her.

As I've stated elsewhere: law is not a career where you have one foot in and one foot out. It doesn't work that way, much like many other professional careers. You are either at it seriously or you just don't rate.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: mousiekins on May 27, 2011, 03:01:10 am
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I understand however it grates sometimes when it is perceived that she walked away from the job at A&O or that it was her choice to leave for a year which it was not. There was not much she could have done.
She has been working but it was in SA and not many press go there (they will barely go to Berkshire!) so she worked but noone paid attention.

So I am not sure what she should have done differently as she is not a frequent nighclubber and has mainly kept her head down.

They only thing I think she could have done differently is to make sure her FB were not leaked.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: serene grace on May 27, 2011, 08:38:51 am
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The day after the wedding coverage I heard several US network reporter's refer to Chelsy as Prince Harry "brainy" girlfriend, or bright girlfriend, who went to Law school or is a lawyer. E!News said, this girl "no dummy"( one reporter said) Chelsy has gone to law school and done law internships, she's a smart cookie. So someone was talking about her positively, relaying these things to the US reporter's.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: June on May 27, 2011, 01:09:22 pm
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It's good that Chelsy is getting some recognition, serenegrace - long overdue. :thumbsup:

Mousie: the problem I have is that the girl is not consistent. How much pro bono work has she done? Her intern work has been a couple of weeks, nothing to write home about. Sorry, I wish I could be more positive, I see a lot of hope and projections, but I don't see any real evidence that she will become a lawyer, in reality.

As to what she could have done, assuming she cares: she could have ceased the endless holidays and done more work. A lot more. There are plenty of charitable places for bright girls, with legal qualifications. Unless, of course, A & O did not allow her to work where she pleased pro bono, which I would find odd. :-

However, I caveat that by saying that I really don't know what she's doing from day to day right now. Is she working now? :dontknow: There is a LOT of time between now and September - she's 25, not 21 and should be working if she's serious about her career.

I know young persons in law, younger than Chelsy, who are still at Uni, volunteering, involved in various groups, using legal skill - because they are genuinely interested in the law as a career. Sorry, but Chelsy pales by comparison. I think you should prepare yourself to be disappointed in Chelsy, because at this point, I don't believe she will embark on a legal career. That sad, because she's obviously very bright.

I hope Chelsy proves me wrong, I really do. I'll be the first one cheering her on. I mean that. I'd love for her to show the shameless Waity up for the lazy, useless log that she is.

Ask Yooper if you want another perspective of people wanting to work in law. Her son is a lawyer, so she will know too.

But maybe Chelsy knows she has a job and so is taking it easy - still, what does that say about her motivation? :KEZZA:

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Yooper on May 27, 2011, 03:35:47 pm
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Since you brought me up in the lawyer arena, June, I can indeed testify to the Fact that when you become a lawyer it is all or nothing. There are no halfway measures and as far as pro bono works, that's used after you have either attained a position within a law firm and done solid work or have hung out your own shingle and have amassed a solid client base after considerable time. It's not something you start out doing unless you have not fully committed to the career. It's the way it is. If you don't practice law on a solid basis you are at a terrible risk to lose your status and affiliation with, in our case, the ABA. There is no grey area here. You can pay dues up the ying yang but your footing would be questioned by the sanctioned institution that covers your license. June's right and my son would have lost his chance at any future if he hadn't kept up with it and established himself. After a year or two of solid counsel, THEN you do pro bono. In the US, pro bono is for the ones who don't fully work and is kind of an off-hand, borderline accepted achievement in the early stages. Those are the truths in practicing law.

The only exception to this rule is if a lawyer wants to become a public defender, which is the bottom of the barrel. The pay is awful and pro bono work is required, but it's a last resort for anyone who wants to have a respected career (not to take anything away from public defenders), but it's not the preferred choice and I am sure that Chelsy has many better options and connections.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: June on May 27, 2011, 04:58:31 pm
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Thank you, beautifully articulated. :thumbsup:

In NSW, young lawyers are encouraged to do "public service" ie pro bono work for our indigenous and underprivileged, usually as a short stint or as an extra outside of paid work. It's kind of like a rite of passage to being truly accepted into law (with the exception of commercial law). Michael Kirby encourages the young ones to do this, but it is like a badge of honour, not the whole shebang. It's to give a young person exposure and to show commitment to law. It's a matter for judges too. The woman who replaced MK on the High Court bench had been well known for helping the underprivileged.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Yooper on May 27, 2011, 05:10:01 pm
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No problemo, June.

That's exemplary re pro bono work and am glad to hear it and I'm sure there are fresh lawyers who do the same here, but it's kind of along the line of Candy Stripers who are working towards becoming full-fledged RPN's in the nursing field. In the US, you either get at it or get out. Same with physicians. Pro bono is done AFTER you're established, frankly, in both cases to avoid any unintentional misguided advice or treatment. And any legal pro bono work is done on the mildest of cases in recent grads. The risk factor is high in a new lawyer, unfamiliar and unprotected by a law firm.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: June on May 27, 2011, 05:17:39 pm
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It's the same thing here, really ... in NSW, whilst young grads do it for experience and as being socially responsible; so do many experienced ones, but usually in criminal law. Some of our highest ranking barristers and Queen's Counsel do pro bono criminal work. They do it for myriad reasons, I suppose, especially if it's to save an Australian's life on death row. In that case, the government would pay a fee, in all likelihood, but not all the time.

The main thing is: you need to WORK hard to be accepted, not flit around pretending, or doing very little. I'm not saying Chelsy is doing that, but the impression is not good at the moment. I can't take her seriously - yet.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: serene grace on May 27, 2011, 06:02:08 pm
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I can imagine the headlines for the Duchess of Cambridge-Waity Katey if she had the accomplishment of a Law school degree, meeting First Lady Michelle Obama "lawyer"the press would have been besides themselves with glowing accolades and discussing more than just a dress or weight.

Getting a law degree is wonderful, Going to law school is a major accomplishment. I can't see anything negative in it. :flower:

We see Chelsy maybe twice a year in the press, it's not as if she goes out of her way to promote herself to the UK press.

Many of the US TV Reporters covered her educational accomplishments quite positively in the press surrounding the wedding, It was quite refreshing to hear, they were not tainted by the UK press, which is usually seems to be nasty to her, even during internships or law school the UK press was simply mean.



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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Yooper on May 27, 2011, 06:19:20 pm
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The main reason for any positive US remarks is because it's expected at any level of public service. Both Hillary and Bill are lawyers, as are the Obamas and most members of Congress. So, it's the 'norm', if you will and duly noted.

It will also, eventually, be Wasty's downfall with the US media, unless the BRF is happy with her being nothing more than arm candy.

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: serene grace on May 27, 2011, 06:26:35 pm
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I get the feeling Kate was so caught up in pursuing Pr.William that all other things went out the window. The girl has a stellar education, but it's hardly ever mentioned. She really needs to start getting involved in the Arts on some charitable level and mentioning her degree and background in it(which may be only from University days but at least it's a start)

Look at what Jackie Kennedy did with her interests in the Arts, her work was phenomenal, but Jackie had a real desire to improve Arts and Historical interests in America.

I'm surprised Kate is not combing the Palaces, studying those portraits. I would be in heaven and in awe, admiring the great works. Kate seems to have no interests in anything YET, anyway. :unsure:

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Magnolia on May 28, 2011, 01:19:24 am
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Looking at all the articles out there man she has alot of names the press doesn't even know what to call her.Princess Catherine :rolleyes:,Princess Kate,Kate Middleton,Catherine Middleton, the Duchess of Cambridge how many names pick one already press will ya! :oooh:

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: June on May 28, 2011, 06:20:29 am
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Sorry, serenegrace, but I wouldn't classify Waity's education as 'stellar'. :tehe: lol :laugh: lols

It's very average - in the sense of academic achievement, not $$$. These days, well, in Australia at least, WHERE you went to school is not important, it's what you study and what you do with it that really counts. It may be different in the US and the UK, I don't know.

Kate went to a posh school and fairly good university, but so what? :- She didn't study anything that would make anyone say: "Wow, she MUST be a very brainy girl". She didn't get first class honours, either. If she had, I would reassess my opinion.

Your own examples of the Obamas and Jackie O support my post, ergo, they actually did something with their education. :thumbsup:

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Title: Re: Random Kate Middleton Chat
Post by: Kuei Fei on May 29, 2011, 02:43:38 am
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I joked about this in the past, but I do wonder if Kate has self destructive tendencies and is taking William along for the ride. William to me does not have self destructive tendencies, but self sabotage. Kate has had it all in place to succeed, but keeps flailing about, living life in a swirl of chronic irresponsibility. Before St. Andrews, William was on track, living life and really keeping it together and supposedly on a great track despite everything he went through. As we know, Kate has been running wild since a teen and has never been on track (or had to) and William seemed okay with his destiny (and quite happy about it even) and then as time went by he first wanted to leave and then started to apparently turn against his own family.

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