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Title: Re: The Does William Work? And When? Thread
Post by: Rosella on June 28, 2014, 10:25:08 am
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^^ Lady Alexandra Etherington has one daughter Amelia, born in December 2001.
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Title: Re: The Does William Work? And When? Thread
Post by: Countess of Holland on June 28, 2014, 12:35:53 pm
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Thanks Roselia. She isn't mentioned in the Online Gotha, just the marriage.
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Title: Re: The Does William Work? And When? Thread
Post by: gingerboy24 on June 29, 2014, 10:34:22 pm
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Am I missing something, what does all this have to do with wimpo and work?
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Title: Re: The Does William Work? And When? Thread
Post by: Kuei Fei on June 29, 2014, 10:57:23 pm
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Back on topic and no more talks about lineage and succession.
As for William, he has to start making choices; work on duties, or own up to his determination to not do his part for his nation.
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Title: Re: The Does William Work? And When? Thread
Post by: Kit on July 01, 2014, 03:03:12 am
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Quote from: Rosella on June 28, 2014, 08:09:09 am
Yes, I think Harry will play a very important role in Charles's new 'slimmed-down monarchy', (if that is the way the monarchy is going to go.) No more, no less. This will last until George and any sibling takes over in their late twenties. I don't think Harry wants the role of King, nor do I think they're preparing him for it. Brazil and Chile is a Harry sort of tour, where his excellent qualities of sympathy, empathy and a sense of fun can be displayed.
Completely agree with this.
Charles recognizes that Harry fills the "Diana" void within the RF and Chuck will promote the most valuable asset he has to gain public support.
Wm and Kate assumed they would be seen as the second coming and wouldn't have to lift a finger. Chuck and HM know better and realize that Wm is on a downward spiral. Until Wm decides to throw himself into his royal role, the RF is going to promote Harry. Distract and redirect 101.
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Title: Re: The Does William Work? And When? Thread
Post by: cate1949 on July 01, 2014, 03:10:25 am
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notice how while Harry was in SA there were no royal engagements for the duo - Harry is on his way home - duo were out and about today. They seem to have a policy of never competing with another's tours/big events.
Kate and Will are really bottoming out - will need some major help to overcome the negative impressions of the last week.
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Title: Re: The Does William Work? And When? Thread
Post by: sandy on July 01, 2014, 04:02:00 am
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I think it depends if the Queen can bestir herself to give these two work and make it a requirement. I guess if the criticism becomes louder, she will be forced to do something.
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Title: Re: The Does William Work? And When? Thread
Post by: meememe on July 01, 2014, 04:33:39 am
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Quote from: cate1949 on July 01, 2014, 03:10:25 am
notice how while Harry was in SA there were no royal engagements for the duo - Harry is on his way home - duo were out and about today. They seem to have a policy of never competing with another's tours/big events.
Kate and Will are really bottoming out - will need some major help to overcome the negative impressions of the last week.
Not strictly true.
23rd June William and Kate held a reception for the Foundation of the three of them while Harry was in Brazil.
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Title: Re: The Does William Work? And When? Thread
Post by: cate1949 on July 01, 2014, 04:53:32 am
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right - but it was a low key affair - we only knew about it cause of tweets from royal columnists
it was pretty quiet on the home front while Will and Kate were in AUS/NZ too
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Title: Re: The Does William Work? And When? Thread
Post by: Nighthawk on July 06, 2014, 02:06:16 pm
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Tuesday 8th July 2014
The Prince of Wales, President, Business in the Community, accompanied by The Duke of Cambridge and Prince Harry, will attend the charity's Annual Responsible Business Awards event at The Royal Albert Hall, Kensington Gore, London SW7 2AP.
Wednesday 9th July 2014
The Duke of Cambridge and Prince Harry, on behalf of The Queen, will launch The Queen's Young Leaders Programme at Buckingham Palace.
Wednesday 16th July 2014
The Duke of Cambridge, President of Fields In Trust, will visit War Memorial Park, Coventry. The Park is the first to be dedicated as part of Fields in Trust’s 'Centenary Fields' programme in partnership with The Royal British Legion , which aims to safeguard in perpetuity the war memorial parks, playing fields, and other significant green spaces in the UK given to mark the sacrifice made by those who lost their lives in the Great War.
Thursday 17th July 2014
The Duke of Cambridge, Patron of IWM Foundation’s First World War Centenary Campaign, will visit Imperial War Museums London, to open its new First World War Galleries.
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Title: Re: The Does William Work? And When? Thread
Post by: cate1949 on July 06, 2014, 11:04:14 pm
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so two engagements a week - frankly if he can keep that pace up - that would be a nice improvement over what he has been doing.
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Title: Re: The Does William Work? And When? Thread
Post by: starsailor on July 07, 2014, 04:50:39 pm
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So Fakey won't accompany him? Even though one of the engagements is going to take place at BP? :easter-sly:
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Title: Re: The Does William Work? And When? Thread
Post by: Kuei Fei on July 07, 2014, 07:04:39 pm
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Quote from: sandy on July 01, 2014, 04:02:00 am
I think it depends if the Queen can bestir herself to give these two work and make it a requirement. I guess if the criticism becomes louder, she will be forced to do something.
If Labor ends up getting a Prime Minister in position and the new Prime Minister starts making Tony Blair look like a Tory (in regards to dealing with the monarchy) I believe HM will order them to work. As is, HM has now just lost free legal services, something that is going to come as a huge blow.
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Title: Re: The Does William Work? And When? Thread
Post by: Nighthawk on July 16, 2014, 03:41:24 pm
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Prince William spotted wearing loom band bracelet on visit to war memorial
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PRINCE William was spotted sporting the latest craze - a bracelet made of loom bands - as he visited a war memorial park in Coventry today.
www.express.co.uk/news/royal/489171/Prince-William-Duke-of-Cambridge-wears-loom-bands-bracelet
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The Prince visited Coventry's War Memorial Park today, where he attended a reception and gave a short speech.
He laid a wreath at the base of the war memorial before walking through the park to watch children taking part in a number of sports activities and poppy planting.
William, president of the Fields in Trust (FiT) charity, will visit the green space - the first to be dedicated as part of the Centenary Fields programme in partnership with the Royal British Legion.
Yay!!! PW actually did something useful today :king:
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Title: Re: The Does William Work? And When? Thread
Post by: Countess of Holland on July 16, 2014, 06:40:36 pm
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A loom band...how old is this guy again? It is the latest rage on primary schools in The Netherlands and with the exception of a few parents with children who were creative for Father's or Mother's Day, no adult in her/ his right mind would be spotted with these things.
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Title: Re: The Does William Work? And When? Thread
Post by: Nighthawk on July 16, 2014, 07:02:56 pm
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I guess I'm not in my right mind due to the fact that I wear them and I'm 10 years older than PW and Kate...I like them and I think they're cool looking
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Title: Re: The Does William Work? And When? Thread
Post by: cate1949 on July 16, 2014, 07:15:46 pm
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if a child gives them to me I wear them - for a bit - he must be getting dozens of them from kids so it is a nice gesture to wear it IMHO
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Title: Re: The Does William Work? And When? Thread
Post by: Pense on July 19, 2014, 08:46:41 pm
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Putting this here because it seemed the right place. If not, suggest another and I'll move it.
Read an assessment of the younger royals (W, H, K, B, E) seeming lack of work on behalf of the royal family. The writer asserts that it was Edward VII, as PofW, who started the practice of the RF "being seen" through lots of public appearances, in agreement with Jane Ridely's book. The practice continued because of mor@le boosting efforts during both world wars. After WWII, the public appearances were a way to justify funding the expenses of an extended family that no longer had the assets to support themselves. The appearances increased to fill the time of all the family members because they no longer had the traditional time-fillers to occupy them. The writer posits that the trimmed down royal family (due to rejection of titles by members, aging of older members and those no longer receiving royal funds) have put pressure on the remaining members to keep up the overall number of public appearances. In other words, keeping the same quantity of appearances with fewer people.
Writer believes that PC is trying to reduce the overall number of public engagements by the RF and therefore the number of RF members that will fulfill appearance requests. This means that W, K, H, B and E will not be making the number of appearances that have been done by older members in the past in order to trim down the number of RF patronages. Many of the patronages should be taken over by other public figures and only a core group of institutions/charities should be attached to the RF. These individual groups will be the 'inspiration' groups to draw attention to a need to can be fulfilled by more that one group at local levels. In summary, if the RF doesn't reduce the draw on the public purse and, consolidate their 'message' of public service by all citizens via limited patronages it is at increasingly high risk over the next decade of being made redundant and accelerating the republic movement.
FYI Ridely's book: "Bertie: A Life of Edward VII" ("The Heir Apparent" in the US)
I read this late in the day and don't have the URL. I'm looking for it. The cache and history cleared at browser close.
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Title: Re: The Does William Work? And When? Thread
Post by: Kuei Fei on July 19, 2014, 09:21:01 pm
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Truth be told, public figures like celebrities and even politicians already run their own charities, it's practically a requirement in the US after getting well off and the RF is pretty much going in a disreputable direction. Charities are tired of being used for PR and image boosting and thing is, William should have had more than just a few patronages. He should be head (and involved) of at least ten and be promoting them, but isn't. As for the Duchy, he should be a veteran of running it and be well involved.
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Title: Re: The Does William Work? And When? Thread
Post by: cate1949 on July 19, 2014, 10:10:27 pm
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thanks for posting this Pense - if you can find the url I would appreciate it.
Makes sense - we know there is a clear need to reduce the size of the official RF so reducing the number of patronages while concentrating on core areas is also sensible.
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Title: Re: The Does William Work? And When? Thread
Post by: Pense on July 19, 2014, 11:57:54 pm
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I've been searching for 2 hours and cannot find my source.
In light of that, if you wish, pull the post.
:sorry:
It was a serendipitous find while searching for info about an osteoporosis foundation that had sent a solicitation letter. Then I wandered off on links that looked interesting. The sequence was something like this: osteo -> list of osteo charities -> sidebar about Camilla -> link to PC -> blogs about royal charity involvement -> blog about PC and his charities -> linked to a blog about PC and reduced charity patronages by RF members. And I can't find it again.
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Post by: Rosella on June 28, 2014, 10:25:08 am
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^^ Lady Alexandra Etherington has one daughter Amelia, born in December 2001.
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Title: Re: The Does William Work? And When? Thread
Post by: Countess of Holland on June 28, 2014, 12:35:53 pm
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Thanks Roselia. She isn't mentioned in the Online Gotha, just the marriage.
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Title: Re: The Does William Work? And When? Thread
Post by: gingerboy24 on June 29, 2014, 10:34:22 pm
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Am I missing something, what does all this have to do with wimpo and work?
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Title: Re: The Does William Work? And When? Thread
Post by: Kuei Fei on June 29, 2014, 10:57:23 pm
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Back on topic and no more talks about lineage and succession.
As for William, he has to start making choices; work on duties, or own up to his determination to not do his part for his nation.
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Title: Re: The Does William Work? And When? Thread
Post by: Kit on July 01, 2014, 03:03:12 am
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Quote from: Rosella on June 28, 2014, 08:09:09 am
Yes, I think Harry will play a very important role in Charles's new 'slimmed-down monarchy', (if that is the way the monarchy is going to go.) No more, no less. This will last until George and any sibling takes over in their late twenties. I don't think Harry wants the role of King, nor do I think they're preparing him for it. Brazil and Chile is a Harry sort of tour, where his excellent qualities of sympathy, empathy and a sense of fun can be displayed.
Completely agree with this.
Charles recognizes that Harry fills the "Diana" void within the RF and Chuck will promote the most valuable asset he has to gain public support.
Wm and Kate assumed they would be seen as the second coming and wouldn't have to lift a finger. Chuck and HM know better and realize that Wm is on a downward spiral. Until Wm decides to throw himself into his royal role, the RF is going to promote Harry. Distract and redirect 101.
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Title: Re: The Does William Work? And When? Thread
Post by: cate1949 on July 01, 2014, 03:10:25 am
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notice how while Harry was in SA there were no royal engagements for the duo - Harry is on his way home - duo were out and about today. They seem to have a policy of never competing with another's tours/big events.
Kate and Will are really bottoming out - will need some major help to overcome the negative impressions of the last week.
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Title: Re: The Does William Work? And When? Thread
Post by: sandy on July 01, 2014, 04:02:00 am
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I think it depends if the Queen can bestir herself to give these two work and make it a requirement. I guess if the criticism becomes louder, she will be forced to do something.
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Title: Re: The Does William Work? And When? Thread
Post by: meememe on July 01, 2014, 04:33:39 am
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Quote from: cate1949 on July 01, 2014, 03:10:25 am
notice how while Harry was in SA there were no royal engagements for the duo - Harry is on his way home - duo were out and about today. They seem to have a policy of never competing with another's tours/big events.
Kate and Will are really bottoming out - will need some major help to overcome the negative impressions of the last week.
Not strictly true.
23rd June William and Kate held a reception for the Foundation of the three of them while Harry was in Brazil.
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Title: Re: The Does William Work? And When? Thread
Post by: cate1949 on July 01, 2014, 04:53:32 am
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right - but it was a low key affair - we only knew about it cause of tweets from royal columnists
it was pretty quiet on the home front while Will and Kate were in AUS/NZ too
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Title: Re: The Does William Work? And When? Thread
Post by: Nighthawk on July 06, 2014, 02:06:16 pm
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Tuesday 8th July 2014
The Prince of Wales, President, Business in the Community, accompanied by The Duke of Cambridge and Prince Harry, will attend the charity's Annual Responsible Business Awards event at The Royal Albert Hall, Kensington Gore, London SW7 2AP.
Wednesday 9th July 2014
The Duke of Cambridge and Prince Harry, on behalf of The Queen, will launch The Queen's Young Leaders Programme at Buckingham Palace.
Wednesday 16th July 2014
The Duke of Cambridge, President of Fields In Trust, will visit War Memorial Park, Coventry. The Park is the first to be dedicated as part of Fields in Trust’s 'Centenary Fields' programme in partnership with The Royal British Legion , which aims to safeguard in perpetuity the war memorial parks, playing fields, and other significant green spaces in the UK given to mark the sacrifice made by those who lost their lives in the Great War.
Thursday 17th July 2014
The Duke of Cambridge, Patron of IWM Foundation’s First World War Centenary Campaign, will visit Imperial War Museums London, to open its new First World War Galleries.
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Title: Re: The Does William Work? And When? Thread
Post by: cate1949 on July 06, 2014, 11:04:14 pm
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so two engagements a week - frankly if he can keep that pace up - that would be a nice improvement over what he has been doing.
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Title: Re: The Does William Work? And When? Thread
Post by: starsailor on July 07, 2014, 04:50:39 pm
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So Fakey won't accompany him? Even though one of the engagements is going to take place at BP? :easter-sly:
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Title: Re: The Does William Work? And When? Thread
Post by: Kuei Fei on July 07, 2014, 07:04:39 pm
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Quote from: sandy on July 01, 2014, 04:02:00 am
I think it depends if the Queen can bestir herself to give these two work and make it a requirement. I guess if the criticism becomes louder, she will be forced to do something.
If Labor ends up getting a Prime Minister in position and the new Prime Minister starts making Tony Blair look like a Tory (in regards to dealing with the monarchy) I believe HM will order them to work. As is, HM has now just lost free legal services, something that is going to come as a huge blow.
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Title: Re: The Does William Work? And When? Thread
Post by: Nighthawk on July 16, 2014, 03:41:24 pm
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Prince William spotted wearing loom band bracelet on visit to war memorial
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PRINCE William was spotted sporting the latest craze - a bracelet made of loom bands - as he visited a war memorial park in Coventry today.
www.express.co.uk/news/royal/489171/Prince-William-Duke-of-Cambridge-wears-loom-bands-bracelet
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The Prince visited Coventry's War Memorial Park today, where he attended a reception and gave a short speech.
He laid a wreath at the base of the war memorial before walking through the park to watch children taking part in a number of sports activities and poppy planting.
William, president of the Fields in Trust (FiT) charity, will visit the green space - the first to be dedicated as part of the Centenary Fields programme in partnership with the Royal British Legion.
Yay!!! PW actually did something useful today :king:
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Title: Re: The Does William Work? And When? Thread
Post by: Countess of Holland on July 16, 2014, 06:40:36 pm
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A loom band...how old is this guy again? It is the latest rage on primary schools in The Netherlands and with the exception of a few parents with children who were creative for Father's or Mother's Day, no adult in her/ his right mind would be spotted with these things.
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Title: Re: The Does William Work? And When? Thread
Post by: Nighthawk on July 16, 2014, 07:02:56 pm
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I guess I'm not in my right mind due to the fact that I wear them and I'm 10 years older than PW and Kate...I like them and I think they're cool looking
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Title: Re: The Does William Work? And When? Thread
Post by: cate1949 on July 16, 2014, 07:15:46 pm
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if a child gives them to me I wear them - for a bit - he must be getting dozens of them from kids so it is a nice gesture to wear it IMHO
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Title: Re: The Does William Work? And When? Thread
Post by: Pense on July 19, 2014, 08:46:41 pm
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Putting this here because it seemed the right place. If not, suggest another and I'll move it.
Read an assessment of the younger royals (W, H, K, B, E) seeming lack of work on behalf of the royal family. The writer asserts that it was Edward VII, as PofW, who started the practice of the RF "being seen" through lots of public appearances, in agreement with Jane Ridely's book. The practice continued because of mor@le boosting efforts during both world wars. After WWII, the public appearances were a way to justify funding the expenses of an extended family that no longer had the assets to support themselves. The appearances increased to fill the time of all the family members because they no longer had the traditional time-fillers to occupy them. The writer posits that the trimmed down royal family (due to rejection of titles by members, aging of older members and those no longer receiving royal funds) have put pressure on the remaining members to keep up the overall number of public appearances. In other words, keeping the same quantity of appearances with fewer people.
Writer believes that PC is trying to reduce the overall number of public engagements by the RF and therefore the number of RF members that will fulfill appearance requests. This means that W, K, H, B and E will not be making the number of appearances that have been done by older members in the past in order to trim down the number of RF patronages. Many of the patronages should be taken over by other public figures and only a core group of institutions/charities should be attached to the RF. These individual groups will be the 'inspiration' groups to draw attention to a need to can be fulfilled by more that one group at local levels. In summary, if the RF doesn't reduce the draw on the public purse and, consolidate their 'message' of public service by all citizens via limited patronages it is at increasingly high risk over the next decade of being made redundant and accelerating the republic movement.
FYI Ridely's book: "Bertie: A Life of Edward VII" ("The Heir Apparent" in the US)
I read this late in the day and don't have the URL. I'm looking for it. The cache and history cleared at browser close.
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Title: Re: The Does William Work? And When? Thread
Post by: Kuei Fei on July 19, 2014, 09:21:01 pm
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Truth be told, public figures like celebrities and even politicians already run their own charities, it's practically a requirement in the US after getting well off and the RF is pretty much going in a disreputable direction. Charities are tired of being used for PR and image boosting and thing is, William should have had more than just a few patronages. He should be head (and involved) of at least ten and be promoting them, but isn't. As for the Duchy, he should be a veteran of running it and be well involved.
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Title: Re: The Does William Work? And When? Thread
Post by: cate1949 on July 19, 2014, 10:10:27 pm
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thanks for posting this Pense - if you can find the url I would appreciate it.
Makes sense - we know there is a clear need to reduce the size of the official RF so reducing the number of patronages while concentrating on core areas is also sensible.
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Title: Re: The Does William Work? And When? Thread
Post by: Pense on July 19, 2014, 11:57:54 pm
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I've been searching for 2 hours and cannot find my source.
In light of that, if you wish, pull the post.
:sorry:
It was a serendipitous find while searching for info about an osteoporosis foundation that had sent a solicitation letter. Then I wandered off on links that looked interesting. The sequence was something like this: osteo -> list of osteo charities -> sidebar about Camilla -> link to PC -> blogs about royal charity involvement -> blog about PC and his charities -> linked to a blog about PC and reduced charity patronages by RF members. And I can't find it again.
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