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Post by Admin on Nov 30, 2023 4:05:34 GMT
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Post by Admin on Nov 30, 2023 4:17:31 GMT
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Post by Admin on Nov 30, 2023 4:18:22 GMT
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Post by kueifei on Nov 30, 2023 4:59:59 GMT
Whose outrage? The BRF or their toadies? If the BRF worked half as hard on themselves as they do on harassing authors and the press, they wouldn't be making such a mess all the time. Who do you believe in the BRF is the most offended? I think the attack on King Charles will backfire. I don't believe he's a racist and that's not the deal, but to supposedly out and attack a King. Yikes, not good. Scobie may be unleashing something very vicious. I think it is Kate. Up until Kate was in Wiliam's life, William was on track. I don't think King Charles really will kill an author (I hope), but he will have to start being more proactive not against Harry, but against the real mess in his family and that is Kate. With Kate, she did distract and destabilize William and his life, and it is clear that Kate has been downright maniacal in her relentless attacks against Harry and Meg via her press. Harry was pretty solid after all, and he partied no less or more than most his age or social group. He did do military work, he did dedicate himself, he was doing regular appearances, and he was content. Then Kate marries in and I think Kate is the single driving force in this mess. After Harry met Meg, the press did their usual snarking, but after the engagement, it was unnatural how Meg got pilloried for stuff even Kate and William did all the time, that all the royals do. None of this is normal. Ever since Meg married into that family Kate has been relentless in her psychotically illogical vendetta against any idea of Harry marrying and having kids of her own. It is also clear that after the sensation of Harry leaving, it is clear that the press has not let up. If you don't mind my saying, if Kate were divorced out of the BRF, it would improve things considerably.
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Post by india on Nov 30, 2023 12:47:30 GMT
I agree KF. Khate has an insane vicious rabid jealously against Meghan. Which became a massive problem. I hope Willy Boy wakes up and deals with this Common Creature he inflicted on the world.
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Post by Admin on Nov 30, 2023 13:45:36 GMT
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Post by Admin on Nov 30, 2023 13:46:19 GMT
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Post by india on Nov 30, 2023 14:13:00 GMT
It's gotta be that Bitch Khate
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Post by kueifei on Dec 1, 2023 2:05:14 GMT
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Post by kueifei on Dec 1, 2023 13:41:58 GMT
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Post by Admin on Dec 1, 2023 14:24:45 GMT
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Post by Admin on Dec 1, 2023 14:25:11 GMT
I will have to check these out later.
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Post by sanka on Dec 2, 2023 0:41:29 GMT
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Post by Admin on Dec 2, 2023 3:50:41 GMT
Just some random thoughts on the subject:Probably most information presented in this book won't be something we all didn't already know about/re-hashed from other such books. ie: loads of speculation/secondary sources - that is why books like this are a dime a dozen and really won't make for provocative, deep reading. ie: source list? What could it tell us. Interviews with actual insiders? Archive material? I've never read a Scobie book, but I have read badly sourced "royal" books with many 2nd sources or no citations whatsoever, so I'm highly cynical. I've read royal books that essentially had re-worked passages I read in OTHER books. Plus, THOSE were badly sourced. Accusing a monarch of being a racist (albeit, in a sneaky, underhanded way) is beyond reproach and thinking it's high time that King Charles steps up and does something. I really don't care about what the Cambridges say or do, but King Charles is not a racist and this undermining that is being tacitly allowed by Harry is really beneath contempt. It's not a light thing to accuse anybody of racism, or shouldn't be, and it's really not the main issue, but that is what the warriors of the press and social media want to believe. So little do they know...I don't think Meghan, with HER family background, rumoured abandonment from a mother some have stated never wanted her, dumped her on her ex-husband, etc, Scobie with HIS ex-boyfriend(?) Markus, himself a quasi-Soho House pimp, etc, need to be attacking the legacy of a aging King who, quite frankly, was more than indulgent and giving. Are Kate and Meghan ONLY the faces of royal womanhood? Has it come down to them? Seriously? And why is the media beating itself silly, taking the side of one or the other, digging their heels in, and defending their chosen idols to the death? (figuratively, of course). Why are they allowed so much free reign and why are their feelings, lives, careers, etc, REALLY of any great importance? Having been handed riches beyond anything they have EVER earned, why do they think they deserve that much more? Really, in the scope of royal history, they are but two drops in a rather large pool. They simply are not worth this much hassle! Scobie is probably not the royal insider that he may wish he is, as it doesn't seem that he is presenting anything new. Scobie probably needed a hook; something that would make such a book a "hot potato", so, the so-called translation mistake. Translators have to be highly, highly trained and they can make out what they are presented with quite well, thank you very much. They are far from dummies, so something very fishy about this translation "error". I work with a translator, and trust me, these people are super brilliant. What an insult to be accused wrongly of something. If it were me, I would be suing for defamation. www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/endgame-royal-racism-row-dutch-translator-b2456475.htmlThe Dutch translator for Omid Scobie's Endgame has broken her silence to insist the names of the royals who allegedly raised questions about Prince Archie’s skin colour were "there in black and white" in the manuscript she was sent.
The royal author’s second book was pulled from the shelves in the Netherlands after the translated version identified the two royals said to have questioned the skin tone of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex’s child before he was born.
The publisher dismissed the edition containing the names as a “translation error”. But translator Saskia Peeters, who worked on Scobie‘s latest book, refuted claims she had added the names of the two royals in the Dutch translation of her own accord, despite the English version leaving them out.I will certainly weigh in some more later. Peace.
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Post by Admin on Dec 2, 2023 3:57:33 GMT
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Post by Admin on Dec 2, 2023 4:09:37 GMT
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Post by sanka on Dec 2, 2023 4:28:24 GMT
I consider that the translators only translated from the manuscript in front of them. These were 'names' and that can't be a translation error. The translators should take action as their reputation should not be tarnished with whatever games are going on behind the scenes. I agree that accusing a Monarch is beyond reproach. I have never read a Scobie book and nor am I going to start now. Listening to some of the extracts by the media it is rehashing incorrectly some information that was already out there. Furthermore, it is clear that who may behind some of the information whether it was the dubious duo or MM's very close Soho friend. Apparently one of the errors related to the year of Camilla's 50th birthday. My gripe is that even if Scobie isn't an Oxford or Cambridge scholar that basic fact checking should have been done. Also, why is it only the Dutch version rather than any other language? www.womanandhome.com/life/royal-news/prince-harry-and-meghan-markle-refused-royal-privilege-on-netherlands-trip-but-may-still-receive-vip-treatment/
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Post by Admin on Dec 2, 2023 4:30:49 GMT
I consider that the translators only translated from the manuscript in front of them. These were 'names' and that can't be a translation error. The translators should take action as their reputation should not be tarnished with whatever games are going on behind the scenes. I agree that accusing a Monarch is beyond reproach. I have never read a Scobie book and nor am I going to start now. Listening to some of the extracts by the media it is rehashing incorrectly some information that was already out there. Furthermore, it is clear that who may behind some of the information whether it was the dubious duo or MM's very close Soho friend. Apparently one of the errors related to the year of Camilla's 50th birthday. My gripe is that even if Scobie isn't an Oxford or Cambridge scholar that basic fact checking should have been done. Also, why is it only the Dutch version rather than any other language? www.womanandhome.com/life/royal-news/prince-harry-and-meghan-markle-refused-royal-privilege-on-netherlands-trip-but-may-still-receive-vip-treatment/Curious - yes, WHY only the Dutch version?
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Post by Admin on Dec 2, 2023 4:32:07 GMT
business.gov.nl/regulation/copyright/The Dutch Copyright Act (Auteurswet) automatically protects the copyright of works of literature, science, and art from the moment the work is created, on condition that the work in question is an original work. If you are an author or maker, you determine what happens with your work. For instance, you decide how others use, copy, or display your work. Copyright is laid down in the Dutch Copyright Act.
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Post by Admin on Dec 2, 2023 4:38:27 GMT
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12810565/Dutch-translator-Omid-Scobies-Endgame-says-names-two-royal-racists-manuscript-sent-author-insisted-never-submitted-book-it.htmlDutch translator of Omid Scobie's Endgame says the names of the two 'royal racists' WERE in the manuscript she was sent after author insisted he 'never submitted a book with them in it' By PAUL THOMPSON IN ARNHEM, HOLLAND
PUBLISHED: 12:09 EST, 30 November 2023 | UPDATED: 15:10 EST, 30 November 2023TV presenter Piers Morgan first revealed the names of the pair on his evening show last night.
Mrs Peeters was clearly shocked and nervous at the firestorm her translation has caused.
She did not say when she received the manuscript from the Dutch publisher Xander Uitgevers.
She said that the pages were distributed between herself and fellow translator Nellie Keukellar-van Rijsbergen to transcribe.
When told the book's author Scobie had denied the names were in his manuscript Mrs Peters said: 'I don't know why he would say that.
'I have been translating for many years. This is the first time anything like this has happened.
'This is not something I wanted to be involved in. This has been upsetting. I do not want to talk about it much more.'
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