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Post by Admin on May 8, 2023 20:26:33 GMT
The Nazis took the Belgian royals hostage; first time I heard about the Nazis doing something decent.
As for the rest of them, I wonder just how much different things would be if the most recent generation of royalty actually faced the realities that like has to marry like and there can't be any kind of compromise when it comes to royal life. One thing I do believe is that if Princess Madeleine had married Prince William and actually accepted that she didn't belong at playing at being a rich socialite, she would have had the privacy that she wanted and the privileges and the status. Madeleine didn't really fit into the States among the American upper class because she is so used to being a figure of public interest that she never really shut up in regards to the way she chose to engage the press. She didn't just quietly do charity work, she used her status to 'promote' charity work and she used her royal status by getting who knows what handed to her. If she had married William, she would have been able to have privacy from press because of the changed times, the press is no longer focusing on royals for their bread and butter because the royals no longer sell like they used to. With the exception of staff, no one really focuses primarily on royals anymore.
I think the main reason she left the States is that someone in the American upper class might have told her that she was no longer really welcome in the States and any delusions of becoming part of that upper class (American) was not going to happen. She never fit in because she never renounced her titles and thing is, that I wonder how long until her marriage dissolves. William would have been a great match if she had decided to grow up and accept that she had a price to pay for privilege. As for Cristina and Martha Louise and so on and so forth, royal women refuse to accept that their downgrade in lifestyle should be part of not marrying a fellow title. I think the worst part is how the men are pressured to provide that level of privilege, but they can't since it is paid for by taxpayers and not through private industry. It would hurt like crazy to have to work so hard only to have the fruits of my work be considered 'good enough.' At least with the fellow royals, there isn't really a major dip in lifestyle even if they marry a spare and I believe Inaki would not have ended up in that mess if not for the pressure to provide for his princess wife. Princesses these days seem to think that a downgrade in lifestyle is some kind of game and it isn't.
It wasn't decent - they tried to murder them.
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Post by kueifei on May 8, 2023 21:50:27 GMT
The Nazis took the Belgian royals hostage; first time I heard about the Nazis doing something decent.
As for the rest of them, I wonder just how much different things would be if the most recent generation of royalty actually faced the realities that like has to marry like and there can't be any kind of compromise when it comes to royal life. One thing I do believe is that if Princess Madeleine had married Prince William and actually accepted that she didn't belong at playing at being a rich socialite, she would have had the privacy that she wanted and the privileges and the status. Madeleine didn't really fit into the States among the American upper class because she is so used to being a figure of public interest that she never really shut up in regards to the way she chose to engage the press. She didn't just quietly do charity work, she used her status to 'promote' charity work and she used her royal status by getting who knows what handed to her. If she had married William, she would have been able to have privacy from press because of the changed times, the press is no longer focusing on royals for their bread and butter because the royals no longer sell like they used to. With the exception of staff, no one really focuses primarily on royals anymore.
I think the main reason she left the States is that someone in the American upper class might have told her that she was no longer really welcome in the States and any delusions of becoming part of that upper class (American) was not going to happen. She never fit in because she never renounced her titles and thing is, that I wonder how long until her marriage dissolves. William would have been a great match if she had decided to grow up and accept that she had a price to pay for privilege. As for Cristina and Martha Louise and so on and so forth, royal women refuse to accept that their downgrade in lifestyle should be part of not marrying a fellow title. I think the worst part is how the men are pressured to provide that level of privilege, but they can't since it is paid for by taxpayers and not through private industry. It would hurt like crazy to have to work so hard only to have the fruits of my work be considered 'good enough.' At least with the fellow royals, there isn't really a major dip in lifestyle even if they marry a spare and I believe Inaki would not have ended up in that mess if not for the pressure to provide for his princess wife. Princesses these days seem to think that a downgrade in lifestyle is some kind of game and it isn't.
It wasn't decent - they tried to murder them.
I apologize if I have offended you.
As for the rest of the topic, I sometimes wonder if growing up the media culture is what caused a lot of royals to mistake one era from another. William and Harry were weaned on intense media attention and now that the press has more important people to cover, I am certain that William and Harry are bewildered since neither have settled down and gotten to work and be glad to no longer be the center of media coverage they profess to hate. Regrettably neither prince was disciplined properly and in my view, even the best upbringing would have likely failed as they refuse to even try anymore. One of the main issues I see among modern royals is that they never were trained in taking a proportionate view of media coverage and regrettably they do not want to learn from the past and they are not smart enough to sit with an expert and develop some kind of strategy to make sure that press is covering their public stuff, not the private.
If Princess Madeleine of Sweden and Princess Cristina of Spain and others had decided to marry their own kind, I think they would be a lot happier. Madeleine seemed to want to live a royal life in the States and when that did not work out, it is clear that she left. The Scandinavians dress best since they dress like royalty probably should, but I dislike how they are so much like the Brits. One thing I remember noticing about CP Amalia is that during her first day at kindergarten, the camera kept showing how the teacher was all over Amalia and I bitterly notice how the teacher at Harry's day school made it a point to walk Harry all the way to the car while ignoring the other kids in her care. She practically went into the car where Diana was waiting. In normal kindergarten settings, royal kids always get preferential attention and care while the rest of the kids are ignored.
If I were a principal in a school with royal kids, I would quietly ask the parents to home school their kids. The Scandinavians put up a front of being lower maintenance, but it is clear that they do not live cheap and if they mix with staff, if I were staff, that would irritate me since I would prefer that my boss not try to interfere in my non-working life. I am angry a lot lately about a lot of things and I have worked myself to multiple health setbacks and now all of a sudden I realize how they get all the profits and do nothing. They live on taxpayers despite not being disabled, but don't get stigmatized. I'm on SSDI and I am stigmatized. Why can't people call them out more? What makes their issues more important?
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Post by kueifei on Jun 28, 2023 2:46:57 GMT
Great. Another royal taking up space playing at being a trust fund type. Playing at being a teacher to kill time until token military duty. She shouldn't be doing this since it will make the training units a target for assassination and in my view it is clear that she is unaware of just how bad the world is right now. She should be doing appearances and schmoozing to bring in jobs. Instead she plays in a job that should be going to someone else and I am certain that she is unaware that this announcement makes all this a security risk. Seriously, can't she just get into public life and stop pretending that she will be exactly like the others?
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Post by kueifei on Jun 30, 2023 1:11:12 GMT
Madeleine and Chris have postponed to 2024 their move back to Sweden ?
So basically she and Chris are staying and I am now seriously annoyed. Why can't she go back to Sweden?
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Post by kueifei on Oct 19, 2023 3:13:52 GMT
This is so wrong; why can't royals stay in their palaces and out of the way of normal people? She and Amalia are annoying in that they refuse to respect their station in life.
Stay on your palaces Stay on your own track Stay in your own place and stop pretending to be normal.
First a pointless job as a kindergarten assistant and now this asinine BS.
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Post by kueifei on Jan 6, 2024 3:47:40 GMT
I wonder what on earth the Princess of Orange is doing, making herself the responsibility of Spanish intelligence services and not in the Netherlands attempting to boost mor@le or set up some kind of schedule? Why is she being so coddled and why is she getting away with contributing nothing. One thing I have noticed about society today is that one side of society is demanding more pampering and protection while the other is being expected to take all the hits and provide one thing or another. Amalia is being a leech and at her age she should be experiencing public life in full in addition to being disliked. Seriously, her nation has paid and paid and paid for her and now suddenly she is in fact refusing to step up. Each year, each month, each day she is giving anti-monarchists more and more leverage and substance to their argument of how royals are parasitic. Why is she in Spain? At eighteen she was supposed to step up full time and network to bring in business.
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Post by kueifei on Apr 14, 2024 15:41:29 GMT
Another vanity tour:
Why can't they just stay in their own countries and among their own kind? He shouldn't be snubbing Washington and go to California.
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Post by Admin on Apr 14, 2024 17:24:55 GMT
Another vanity tour: Why can't they just stay in their own countries and among their own kind? He shouldn't be snubbing Washington and go to California. An official visit is not warranted in any case.
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Post by kueifei on Apr 14, 2024 23:43:32 GMT
Another vanity tour: Why can't they just stay in their own countries and among their own kind? He shouldn't be snubbing Washington and go to California. An official visit is not warranted in any case. No it isn't. Haakon should stay in his own nation and these American vanity tours are pointless. Stay in their own nation. First KC with his pointless tour of validation for Camilla in France and now a pointless trip to the American west Coast and probably to meet tourists and surf. nos.nl/artikel/2512736-vietnam-stelt-staatsbezoek-willem-alexander-op-het-laatste-moment-uitGood. Times are nonfunctional and quite honestly, why does the DRF have to go? So Maxima can pretend to be an economic specialist? Another public circle jerk: Yes, because Maxima and Willem work so hard for it and made so many sacrifices.
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Post by kueifei on Jun 12, 2024 0:23:36 GMT
They are finally leaving! www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=3b83cb1ebc0a61aeJmltdHM9MTcxODA2NDAwMCZpZ3VpZD0xNzczYjU5OS04NDAyLTYwZTktMmM5ZC1hMWFhODVkMTYxMDUmaW5zaWQ9NTUyNA&ptn=3&ver=2&hsh=3&fclid=1773b599-8402-60e9-2c9d-a1aa85d16105&psq=princess+madeleine+of+sweden&u=a1aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cubXNuLmNvbS9lbi11cy9saWZlc3R5bGUvbGlmZXN0eWxlLWJ1enovcHJpbmNlc3MtbWFkZWxlaW5lLWFuZC1oZXItZmFtaWx5LWFyZS1tb3ZpbmctYmFjay10by1zd2VkZW4vYXItQkIxbzI1c1I_b2NpZD1CaW5nTmV3c1NlcnA&ntb=1 Madeleine and her financier husband is finally leaving. Going back to Sweden and I hope they stay there.
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Post by Admin on Jun 12, 2024 1:38:33 GMT
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Post by kueifei on Jun 12, 2024 15:08:33 GMT
BS. They have more than enough money to live in Fisher Island and all they have to do is pay and stay out of the way. Quite frankly, they stayed because they didn't really want to leave. This is LONG overdue, and I resent that she came here and didn't engage in a profession and contribute to the tax base. She was a guest in this country for many years, not a resident. She is a foreigner, and she holds a title that means that her real place is in HER OWN COUNTRY! Madeleine should have been in the workforce, not on social media and her husband was possibly trying to use her status to get better business. It does not work that way here and I LOVE how she is finally leaving and taking a hint that she has to take her status and behavior back to Sweden. As to having no titles, that will kind of cripple her kids since in that set, status is everything. There is nothing about the States that she has contributed.
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Post by Admin on Jun 13, 2024 13:59:32 GMT
BS. They have more than enough money to live in Fisher Island and all they have to do is pay and stay out of the way. Quite frankly, they stayed because they didn't really want to leave. This is LONG overdue, and I resent that she came here and didn't engage in a profession and contribute to the tax base. She was a guest in this country for many years, not a resident. She is a foreigner, and she holds a title that means that her real place is in HER OWN COUNTRY! Madeleine should have been in the workforce, not on social media and her husband was possibly trying to use her status to get better business. It does not work that way here and I LOVE how she is finally leaving and taking a hint that she has to take her status and behavior back to Sweden. As to having no titles, that will kind of cripple her kids since in that set, status is everything. There is nothing about the States that she has contributed. I don't think Madeleine's husband wanted to be stuck in Sweden, but now guessing he has no choice. I imagine that he cannot speak the language, but his wife and now his children's titles and positions mean that he really has no alternative but to live and work in Sweden now.
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Post by kueifei on Jun 13, 2024 17:41:15 GMT
BS. They have more than enough money to live in Fisher Island and all they have to do is pay and stay out of the way. Quite frankly, they stayed because they didn't really want to leave. This is LONG overdue, and I resent that she came here and didn't engage in a profession and contribute to the tax base. She was a guest in this country for many years, not a resident. She is a foreigner, and she holds a title that means that her real place is in HER OWN COUNTRY! Madeleine should have been in the workforce, not on social media and her husband was possibly trying to use her status to get better business. It does not work that way here and I LOVE how she is finally leaving and taking a hint that she has to take her status and behavior back to Sweden. As to having no titles, that will kind of cripple her kids since in that set, status is everything. There is nothing about the States that she has contributed. I don't think Madeleine's husband wanted to be stuck in Sweden, but now guessing he has no choice. I imagine that he cannot speak the language, but his wife and now his children's titles and positions mean that he really has no alternative but to live and work in Sweden now. Tough luck. No sympathy from me. Like MM, Chris had a new nation and a new responsibility, and he had a DUTY to stay in Sweden and live with the constraints of his new station in life. I am frustrated by Americans who marry into that life but want to scurry to America and try to use their status as a bargaining chip. Chris wasn't just a financier, he was a royal duke and his children are titled as well. Second, Madeleine didn't fit in mainly since the American upper class is different. A profession comes before the title. Like Meg, Chris thought it would be a free ride, but he was wrong and neither belong here anymore. Not really even as guests. Same with MM; she is a royal and she should stick out the ugliness and stay in the UK/Commonwealth and do what she has to do there.
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Post by Admin on Jun 13, 2024 21:49:22 GMT
I don't think Madeleine's husband wanted to be stuck in Sweden, but now guessing he has no choice. I imagine that he cannot speak the language, but his wife and now his children's titles and positions mean that he really has no alternative but to live and work in Sweden now. Tough luck. No sympathy from me. Like MM, Chris had a new nation and a new responsibility, and he had a DUTY to stay in Sweden and live with the constraints of his new station in life. I am frustrated by Americans who marry into that life but want to scurry to America and try to use their status as a bargaining chip. Chris wasn't just a financier, he was a royal duke and his children are titled as well. Second, Madeleine didn't fit in mainly since the American upper class is different. A profession comes before the title. Like Meg, Chris thought it would be a free ride, but he was wrong and neither belong here anymore. Not really even as guests. Same with MM; she is a royal and she should stick out the ugliness and stay in the UK/Commonwealth and do what she has to do there. He is not aging well; looks bloated, actually. Hard to say it,but with the exception of the elder girl, those children are not really that cute. (Meow) I don't sympathize either as living in Sweden, Canada or other countries would be a gift and certainly struggling people in war torn lands would give anything for that privilege. Both he and Meghan received way more privileges than hindrances,so not sympathetic to their rather self-serving complaints. Yes, there are online bullies and other problems, but they are still lucky and quite protected.
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Post by kueifei on Jun 14, 2024 7:48:18 GMT
Tough luck. No sympathy from me. Like MM, Chris had a new nation and a new responsibility, and he had a DUTY to stay in Sweden and live with the constraints of his new station in life. I am frustrated by Americans who marry into that life but want to scurry to America and try to use their status as a bargaining chip. Chris wasn't just a financier, he was a royal duke and his children are titled as well. Second, Madeleine didn't fit in mainly since the American upper class is different. A profession comes before the title. Like Meg, Chris thought it would be a free ride, but he was wrong and neither belong here anymore. Not really even as guests. Same with MM; she is a royal and she should stick out the ugliness and stay in the UK/Commonwealth and do what she has to do there. He is not aging well; looks bloated, actually. Hard to say it,but with the exception of the elder girl, those children are not really that cute. (Meow) I don't sympathize either as living in Sweden, Canada or other countries would be a gift and certainly struggling people in war torn lands would give anything for that privilege. Both he and Meghan received way more privileges than hindrances,so not sympathetic to their rather self-serving complaints. Yes, there are online bullies and other problems, but they are still lucky and quite protected. I find it frustrating that Madeleine didn't quite 'get it' that she was not supposed to be here. Thing is that like Harry she had the best of both in Sweden, but regrettably did the 'half in/half out' here in the States, but she failed to integrate. You can't just do that here in the States, you have to develop it yourself. I wonder if teh Swedish government gave her an ultimatum and told her to renounce her title or return to Sweden and it is clear that she is choosing her title. Chris should just ball up. If he didn't want the royal life he should not have married a royal princess. Why can't these married-ins grow up? I sincerely think that if the British and Swedish royals had mingled and dated and married, it would have been better for a lot of people. The BRF would in fact have more cosmopolitan connections and second, the Swedes would have a better connection with British trade. It's not like the commoners they've married really fit in. If Harry had married Madeleine, that would have been an ideal match, or Maddy marrying William. Imagine Maddy becoming Princess of Wales and Harry would have been able to date/marry someone who was actually decent. Then there is the fact that like should marry like. I find it mystifying that royals want to marry these commoners and prefer to avoid marrying someone who can actually afford them. If Madeleine had married William and dated William, he would be married to someone who knows the drill and would be married to someone who knows how to present herself properly. Someone that people respect and it would mean that royal pomp would be far more justified. Then there is the fact that it would all be less boring. Less pointless. Kate is boring and so is Chris and so is Meg. All boring. I do not think there is any point to pretending that opposites should get married.
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Post by sophia on Jun 15, 2024 1:22:19 GMT
Tough luck. No sympathy from me. Like MM, Chris had a new nation and a new responsibility, and he had a DUTY to stay in Sweden and live with the constraints of his new station in life. I am frustrated by Americans who marry into that life but want to scurry to America and try to use their status as a bargaining chip. Chris wasn't just a financier, he was a royal duke and his children are titled as well. Second, Madeleine didn't fit in mainly since the American upper class is different. A profession comes before the title. Like Meg, Chris thought it would be a free ride, but he was wrong and neither belong here anymore. Not really even as guests. Same with MM; she is a royal and she should stick out the ugliness and stay in the UK/Commonwealth and do what she has to do there. He is not aging well; looks bloated, actually. Hard to say it,but with the exception of the elder girl, those children are not really that cute. (Meow) I don't sympathize either as living in Sweden, Canada or other countries would be a gift and certainly struggling people in war torn lands would give anything for that privilege. Both he and Meghan received way more privileges than hindrances,so not sympathetic to their rather self-serving complaints. Yes, there are online bullies and other problems, but they are still lucky and quite protected. One of the aspects I despise the most about modern royalty, is the belief that they have, that they have the right to marry whomever they want, and the plebs should celebrate their disgusting life choices, and then fund their lifestyles. If opposition is expressed, then that is an act of oppression, as if we are talking about a liberal institution. We have seen it time and again in the last 20+ years.
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Post by kueifei on Jun 15, 2024 3:56:47 GMT
He is not aging well; looks bloated, actually. Hard to say it,but with the exception of the elder girl, those children are not really that cute. (Meow) I don't sympathize either as living in Sweden, Canada or other countries would be a gift and certainly struggling people in war torn lands would give anything for that privilege. Both he and Meghan received way more privileges than hindrances,so not sympathetic to their rather self-serving complaints. Yes, there are online bullies and other problems, but they are still lucky and quite protected. One of the aspects I despise the most about modern royalty, is the belief that they have, that they have the right to marry whomever they want, and the plebs should celebrate their disgusting life choices, and then fund their lifestyles. If opposition is expressed, then that is an act of oppression, as if we are talking about a liberal institution. We have seen it time and again in the last 20+ years. What I hate is how they act like marrying some nonentity is something to celebrate as a novelty. They marry the worst they can find, and their kids get a panoply of titles and styles and privileges, and I am fed up with the BS that they are overcoming odds. None of that tax money gets back to public services where they do in fact belong and should be reinvesting into the economy. If William wants to marry a middle class nobody who can't handle the perks without abusing them, the taxpayer is stuck. I dislike how they INSIST on coming to the States all the time and expect us to all show up and cheer. They act like they are owed, as if the burdens of state are so oppressive that they NEED their little playthings. Second, these royals mix with people that add nothing to their status. Charles mingles with celebs more than he does mingle with businesspeople. I hope Madeleine leaves the States for good and is not allowed to come back. www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=newssearch&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwj08eeJ2tyGAxWXhYkEHaOwBqEQxfQBKAB6BAgREAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fpeople.com%2Fprincess-madeleine-moves-back-sweden-after-living-florida-8662768&usg=AOvVaw2uGrtBje4OTRs7iaaDDlE8&opi=89978449www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=newssearch&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwj08eeJ2tyGAxWXhYkEHaOwBqEQxfQBKAB6BAgJEAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxnews.com%2Fentertainment%2Fprincess-madeleine-sweden-her-family-leaving-florida-move-back-her-home-country&usg=AOvVaw3eU-7kJXBUHLbWsYc7ehgD&opi=89978449Took her too long to figure out that she did not belong. Maybe Harry will take the hint and bug out of the States as well and never come back. I have no idea why I am so loaded with red rage about foreign royals living here, but lately I am in a testy mood towards seeing my nation overrun and I am fed up with foreign royalty trying to relive the 80's and 90's and insist on pretending to want to live a normal life, but do not know how to stay out of the press.
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Post by Mrs. Marple on Jun 22, 2024 7:17:53 GMT
Chris is not a royal duke. He has no title from Sweden. He has dual UK/US citizenship.
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