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Post by Admin on Aug 24, 2020 3:46:00 GMT
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Post by Admin on Aug 7, 2021 13:48:29 GMT
I couldn't find the thread for the royals who resembled their ancestors, but here is one of Prince Albert and a probable great-grandson? Attachments:
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Post by kueifei on Aug 8, 2021 1:33:56 GMT
He is lauded as the Adam on the monarchical system. Just like Victoria is lauded as Eve.
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Post by Admin on Aug 8, 2021 1:51:16 GMT
He is lauded as the Adam on the monarchical system. Just like Victoria is lauded as Eve. He set a very high standard - that was met by precious few of his descendants. |
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Post by cheryl on Nov 21, 2021 23:46:52 GMT
Albert died of Typhoid Fever, He is probably the most educated prince ever. He had the patience of a saint with Victoria and loved his children. He would have been appalled at how Victoria behaved after his death. None of his descendants even came close to his intellect, except perhaps his daughter Vicky.
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Post by kueifei on Oct 11, 2023 21:22:42 GMT
I think he was jealous of his son and that is why he was so cruel to him; he was jealous that Bertie was the future King and all Albert would be was prince consort. I find it intriguing that these princes who have all this vaunted lineage still let their idea of reduced masculinity get under their skin. They KNOW that they can't be King or even King Consort and oddly they still whine about it. Imagine if they stopped comparing to themselves to normal people and imagine if they grew up instead of whining and taking his resentments out on the kids. Prince Philip was abusive to Charles and he was resentful of feeling unmanned despite the fact that he was a royal prince in his own right.
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Post by Admin on Oct 12, 2023 11:57:14 GMT
I think he was jealous of his son and that is why he was so cruel to him; he was jealous that Bertie was the future King and all Albert would be was prince consort. I find it intriguing that these princes who have all this vaunted lineage still let their idea of reduced masculinity get under their skin. They KNOW that they can't be King or even King Consort and oddly they still whine about it. Imagine if they stopped comparing to themselves to normal people and imagine if they grew up instead of whining and taking his resentments out on the kids. Prince Philip was abusive to Charles and he was resentful of feeling unmanned despite the fact that he was a royal prince in his own right. I disagree - Albert's character was such that he certainly wasn't jealous of Bertie. Albert was a King in all but name, and the populace's suspicion of a foreign prince changed when they saw and realized just what Albert stood for. Of the two parents, Albert was the one who took an active interest in the welfare of the children. I think there were problems with Bertie from the start - none of the other children seem to have been as errant as he was, certainly not as children. Albert would have treated his son more or less how any father at that time . There was no cruelty or pettiness in Albert's character - he himself came from a broken home and was haunted by that his entire life. |
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Post by Admin on Oct 12, 2023 12:03:13 GMT
Albert died of Typhoid Fever, He is probably the most educated prince ever. He had the patience of a saint with Victoria and loved his children. He would have been appalled at how Victoria behaved after his death. None of his descendants even came close to his intellect, except perhaps his daughter Vicky. Alice, Louise, and Leopold were quite remarkable as well. For the other children, I would make a determination once I study or read more about their characters and lives. Vicky, yes, brilliant, of course, but seemed a little pompous and didn't strike me as the most sensitive of people. |
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Post by kueifei on Oct 22, 2023 1:17:10 GMT
Maybe I should stop referencing fictional novels as a place of reference.
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Post by Admin on Oct 22, 2023 2:00:17 GMT
Maybe I should stop referencing fictional novels as a place of reference. Don't be hard on yourself - there's not a wealth of new information out there about Prince Albert or a lot of people from around that period. A lot of writers just re-hash the same tired information (sometimes nonsense) - it drives me bonkers. Great mystery around what exactly did Albert die from - not the only mystery, his maternal grandfather died shortly after visiting his daughter and was very young at that time, too. |
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Post by kueifei on Oct 28, 2023 6:36:16 GMT
Prince Albert and Prince Philip should have been given more respect. They brought efficiency and by all accounts, both cut off a lot of fat and got rid of overstuffed palace bureaucracy. Yet oddly, they were both disrespected. that never should have been tolerated. One major reason I think Harry and William had problems finding good consorts is because the palace staff who are there for too long become increasingly out of control. If marrying into that family means subjecting themselves to mistreatment and abuse, good luck finding someone willing.
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Post by Admin on Oct 28, 2023 18:45:55 GMT
Prince Albert and Prince Philip should have been given more respect. They brought efficiency and by all accounts, both cut off a lot of fat and got rid of overstuffed palace bureaucracy. Yet oddly, they were both disrespected. that never should have been tolerated. One major reason I think Harry and William had problems finding good consorts is because the palace staff who are there for too long become increasingly out of control. If marrying into that family means subjecting themselves to mistreatment and abuse, good luck finding someone willing. Both highly intelligent men who is their own ways set out to change what was wrong. I just cannot fathom how self-centred, unintelligent, weak, and pathetic the current generation is. Not all, mind you, but too many of them. Duke of Edinburgh's father spoke 5 languages, including Greek. Duke himself was multi-lingual. Prince Albert apparently spoke in full sentences by the time he was 2 and was seen as a child prodigy. He was a marvellous student and mastered many subjects, all for the love of learning and not because he HAD to. It's too bad that he was scorned in his time because he had a definite social conscience and was outraged by inequities he witnessed in England. Then we have William and Harry. who take mostly after the Spencers, intellectually speaking. Sigh. What a let down. |
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Post by kueifei on Oct 29, 2023 6:11:03 GMT
I think the biggest problem is that the modern-day uni system is allowed to be the defining standard. Another major part of it is how HMQM ended up breaking the chain of a demanding education and worldly experience. HME was not just unprepared because she was so young, she was grossly undereducated and the worst of it is how the Windsors refuse to look beyond their personal. Instead of going to uni and ignoring any further growth, they should have been continuing private education and training using the almost limitless resources that palace libraries and billions in taxpayer money provides. They don't want to grow outside of playing at being middle class or a bunch of wealthy trust fund types. Even these days kids from prominent families are less focused on inheritance and more focused on preparations for their own professions. Not a lifetime of jet setting. Second, Prince Albert didn't run with a low rent crowd and second, Philip was the final addition to that family that had actual standing and made actual sacrifices. William and Harry take after her mother near the end of her life; shallow, out of control, and wrecking the lives of other people. I wish Meg had looked hard at this and run like the wind, but she was greedy and had a solid plan. WIlliam and Harry have grown inward and despite his lowered status, Harry still insists on behaving like he is in fact still a part of a higher level and he is clearly acting like he is a version of American royalty.
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tale BS.
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