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Post by Admin on Mar 6, 2021 1:07:42 GMT
Hello All! I am starting a new thread for Royal Gossip members who may wish to expand on any and all royal topics. If you have lots more to say and/or add on a certain topic, here is the thread to post it in. Please keep to "op-ed" type posts only - we'll keep responses, etc to other threads. No royal topic is off limits, but just a reminder to be respectful and civil towards other posters, etc. I think we can all conduct ourselves very well, but for any concerns or issues please bring them up with me or a moderator. Thank you! Admin  |
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bonnie
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Post by bonnie on Mar 6, 2021 13:26:37 GMT
Ok, I do really have to say, bc I think this post refers to all the BRF and I can't sum it up about only one member.
RF members are stupid, stupid and stupid. They dig themself so deep it's impossible to believe. A lot of people defend Meghan now and RF only have their royal reporters and a rare bunch of fans who love QE - Loving QE is the only base of monarchy now.
The sh#tstrom Rf did is huge and they can't stop it. I think the previous year was the beginning of the end of the monarchy. COVID showed they are useless. This year will show they are vile. No class no dignity.
All QE needed to do - is to give power to Charles 5 years ago. Then Chuch could put william and especially kate back on track. Then Harry could marry happier. Then monarchy wouldn't meet Meghan.
Charles really needs to think now about the time of his "king-ing". It will be hard time for him and the rest of the institution.
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Post by kueifei on Mar 7, 2021 4:46:20 GMT
I am fed up with how royals set an unrealistic kind of aspiration. Their lifestyle of limitless palaces and limitless money is horrific since it is all taxpayer supported. None of this is earned by their own efforts and even that wouldn't bug me if they would stop yammering about hard work and duty as if they are the standard of duty and dedication, and they aren't. It makes some people think that if they try hard enough in certain areas, that they would be able to get that life, but it isn't attainable. Even the Rothchilds do not live that large (as far as I know). Royals getting up at six thirty for a day of engagements is not at all a grind and I also wish that royals would stay in their circle instead of demanding more space and more freedom, a freedom that they are not equipped to handle. Royals simply cannot see things the same way others do and it is clear that it wouldn't matter if royals did not insist on more power and influence. It irritates me that royals think they can handle actual power, when they do not at all actually know how to think at all.
As for Charles and HM, HM should have given Charles the power to enforce and maintain order and implement some of his admirable reforms. HM has reigned so long and had her arse kissed for so long that HM has lost sight of the cold hard fact that she has resulted in things becoming stagnate and William and others in the BRF out of control.
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Post by Admin on Mar 7, 2021 15:44:50 GMT
I am so fed up with Team Sussex vs Team Cambridge and essentially everything but the real truth coming out, yet others being blanketed with claims of racism, bullying, and abuse.
What was so abusive, again, about living in palaces, renovated to suit your tastes, having expensive clothes, jewels, gifts, and all household expenses paid, and yet didn't have to drop a dime on any of it? To have a $500,000 wedding shower and having your so-called friends take advantage of your new position, too? To be able to have staff at your beck and call? To automatically be given credit and social media access just because of who you are are who you married? To have the finest medical care? To have 24/7 service protection? To have at least several members of your new family invite you over to their homes and offer you a welcome mat of sorts? To try to include you?
For any high position, earned or not, there is going to be a lot of detractors, press bullies, and those who didn't want you in that position. Yes, and they are going to give you some grief. That is wrong, but that is part and parcel of what these positions entail. But for all the privileges you enjoyed, there were going to be a few rules. We all have to abide by rules - you can certainly have your own opinions and live your life out happily, but whilst you are acting in a so-called official capacity or being one of it's representatives, you have to respect that and abide by that. Period. Harry knows this - and certainly William does, too. Kate is determined just to be a lazy, useless and failed slod no matter how much a figurative candle is lit behind her bony bottom. She will never change and it's obvious what a failure she turned out to be.
I am tired of these cries of victimhood and how a few princes out of many feel the world needs to stop, take note of them, and listen to their litany of complaints and grievances. So you got flak from the DM and the Sun? Boo hoo hoo. So Piers Morgan doesn't like you? Boo hoo hoo. So a few racists or bullies on Twitter or wherever don't like you? Boo hoo hoo again. It's not important - your so-called grievances need to have been taken up privately. With the ones you have the TRUE grievances against.
You don't like your job? Change it and shut up. You don't have to manage a household on one income, you don't have to make rent/mortage/car payments, you don't have to deal with unemployment/escalating costs/harassment or abuse in the workplace/true discrimination and poor treatment ANYWHERE, plus unlike most people, you have social media platforms with millions of followers who will listen to and hold onto your last word like it's gospel. How many of us have recourse to call up friends/allies to defend us?
For royals, they have things very easy. For the modern name British royals, were any of them called up on charges of tr#ason? Locked up in some fortress for decades? Had their positions taken away from them? Being denied access to their own children for life? Well?
What the Sussexes and Cambridges are going through is really not so bad and is actually do to their own making. There are some of us who really get what the real issue or issues are behind the scenes and are tired of the on-going games and childish tit for tat bickering and tantrums being tossed. Be honest, stop your whining,and then just shut up. Not one of you is any less guilty that any of the others - you each have your own part to play. You ALL created this mess in one degree of the other.
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Post by kueifei on Mar 8, 2021 19:01:01 GMT
I am seething with this 'normalcy' BS. The late Princess of Wales did the British monarchy, her sons, and royals in general with this idiotic concept of 'normalcy' where someone can just switch the title on and off like a switch. You can't. You don't stop being royal after an engagement and I am sick and tired of hearing about how Diana wanted her sons to have a 'normal' life. I really do think that Diana's attempts to live a 'normal' life were wrong and she was wrong to make her sons think that they were somehow deprived because they don't have lives where they do not have to answer to anyone. Everyone has to answer to someone and EVERYONE will at some point have to answer to God Himself. If Diana had raised her sons to get an allowance based on the number of engagements they do instead of house chores (which is kind of pointless) William and Harry might have had a better work ethic. If Diana had removed her sons to their own household as adolescents (they could have been moved next door in another suite instead of across the country) they would have learned early independence while still being part of a system and chances are they would not have been caught up in the screaming and yelling that Diana and Charles just LOVED to indulge in. Both would have learned the value of a place of their own and would have been safe from the domestic turmoil that both parents just LOVED to revel in. Now I know that Charles played a huge part in screwing up the system, but Diana should NOT have raised her kids to expect 9-5 family structure with all that power and hyper-privilege. It just does NOT work and I was watching "The Crown" and it irritated me that Diana got upset at William being at boarding school instead of encouraging her sons to be independent and look at their experience as an adventure and a way to not just mix with friends, but to make new ones and make memories that are fun and positive. Both princes should have been expected, after secondary schooling, to be engaging the press/public on their own terms, not at all shying away or threatening lawsuits. Sick of it, sick of hearing about a normal life or hearing about Letizia doing the school run. Either you raise your kids to be as independent as possible at as early an age as possible, or you will mess up their ability to handle power and privilege responsible. There really is no third way and there is no second way or 'balance.' William and Harry should not have been raised to idealize a life that is not at all completely ideal and neither will ever be able to have a 'normal' life at all, ever.
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Post by Admin on May 14, 2021 0:17:31 GMT
I will use the above for what will most likely be a long rant over a variety of topics, and surprise, surprise! It deals with how BOTH brothers are allowed to strike out, with impunity, at everything and everybody they have in abundance from the day they dropped out of Diana.
To say I'm angry with both of them, and their manipulative, unsuitable wives, is an understatement. I will start with Harry, who despite the adulation heaped on him by the Sussex stans, is bankrupting the legacy of the Monarchy just as fast and just as much as his elder brother. Now, my empathy waxes and wanes with Ole Ginger here. I do have a degree of sympathy for him, because I do believe he is being grossly abused and scapegoated - no, not by his entire family, but by his bullying brother, his wife and her entire family. But there's only so much sympathy and empathy one can feel towards a person is one feels this person is just overstepping their mark, or refusing to see how they and they alone are responsible for their own fates. And randomly blaming nameless family members, in essence, targeting them all, is grossly unfair and cowardly. Especially all the world stage - bad enough when you hurt people in private, but dragging out the family dramas on the world stage? Uh uh!
Another point with Harry - this eternal victimhood act has got to end. You think you have it bad? You have it better than 99.999999 % of the planet, boy. You are not only person who has experienced internal hurt, scapegoating, bullying, bad behaviour and unfairness. But you have a platform - the rest of us really don't. You are no different or entitled to anyMORE than anybody else! Your ancestors worked through their pain and didn't use their personal tragedies as a permanent crutch. Move on for crying out loud, and this is for Billy as well - stop playing the Dead Diana card. No truly loving child would misuse a parent's memory like this.
And speaking of parents - what is it with you and the Clearly Manipulative Megs going to stop thinking you can talk back to/hurt/embarrass/abuse the 2 lone parents who were there for you their entire lives? Who, quite frankly, I wish would say a lot more than what they already have (which is very, very little), but at least they have dignity and pride - qualities sadly lacking in the two of you. Not happy to just stab your fathers in the backs, but making sure you keep twisting the knives. Oh, that is surely a sign of clean mental health. And sorry, Megs, I would be more worried about having Doria around the kiddies than I would your father. Same with Charles. He was good enough as a cash cow - wasn't happy that he had some control and wasn't going to let you just do whatever you could to his family and institution? Wasn't banking on that, so for probable distraction you have to poison your husband's standing in his own family and country? Bad enough when jealous Billy and his wife does that...
Now, let's speak of the very serious issue of "mental health". Pray tell, how are any of you remotely qualified on the subject? Are any and/or all of you qualified, certified mental health professionals? It's not a game, kiddies. Human lives are at stake here, and they don't need a quartets of silly, rather unintelligent, bitter ex-royal and royal boobs and navel-gazing charlatans screwing with the minds and well-being of millions. And yes, your influence goes far - how about referring people to those qualified to deal with this issues, and not pretend you. Oprah, your Instagram friends, Scobie and/or any other self-appointing nobody has the answers? Get the ##$# over yourselves, already!
I will leave that for now...but don't worry William and friends...you are next.
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Post by kueifei on May 14, 2021 15:45:29 GMT
I am angry and resentful of how royals act so above it all, as if the world is supposed to exist for them to look down on. Everything those ingrates have is paid for by other people. It's not their money, it is taxpayer money and it is certainly something that is never at all owed to them. A huge reason that these violent revolutions happen is because royals were not holding up their end. They were not reinvesting that money into the economy and they were not even caring anymore about the FACT that their subjects were starving with no safety net or way out of a vicious cycle of poverty and subjugation. I am angry that Marie Antoinette and Alexandra of Russia are deified, despite the fact that both women were not helping in regards to transitioning from autocracy to constitutional monarchies and I am angry that everyone is supposed to apologize for having lost patience with these worse than useless monarchs.
These days royals spout about social justice, or about having low self esteem, but that really isn't a focus right now, with the economy collapsed and millions about to hit the streets and no one knowing where their next dime will come from to pay bills or pay for a good meal. It frustrates me since if they didn't persist in meddling, no one would be caring about their hyper-privilege. This is the last thing people should do, is pull focus on them and their lives. I get sick of seeing the condescension and the disdain, while contributing NOTHING of any substance. If they had the brains that their educations (first class provided by the taxpayer) provided, they would know that now is the last time to be seeking the spotlight, but their stupidity HURTS like crazy. NO one as stupid as they are deserves that kind of lavish lifestyle. There are so many smart, hardworking, BRIGHT people who would do so much more with their opportunities.
I am also sick of seeing their sycophants enjoy the ride as well and I am dead sure that there won't be any end of that as well. I am sick of seeing so many users act like they are entitled to exclusive invites, or titles, or favors like William gives to the Midds. Zero excuse really.
Why does everyone have to wait around for William to decide to work? Why does everyone have to wait for Kate to decide to work? No one owes her ANYTHING and no one owes her status or more privileges. No one owes William more time and I am sick of how he cannot fathom that no one is pathetically grateful for his phone calls or even wants him around. William seems to think that the longer he refuses to work, the more exciting it will be for others to see him, but that is wrong and it is clear that he is unaware that everyone sees that much of what he spouts is BS. I'm sick of hearing about his crazy mother (who has been dead for nearly 30 years now) and about every little bit of angst. He is of no use or help whatsoever to his country or his people.
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Post by countess74 on Nov 19, 2021 22:35:34 GMT
My thoughts about the royals are this..I love the pagentry and the pomp in regards to all the major calender events, like Royal Ascot or the knights of the garter, or even the grand royal weddings.
I've been a student of royalty since childhood, when I watched Diana's wedding. I'm in love with them, and I'm American.
The Queen is a hero of mine. Granted there have been times when she's misstepped, but I find her a fascinating person and the day she dies, all the mystique will unfortunately go with her.
As much as I adore William and respect Kate, I don't see mystique with them, just a lot of "blah".
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Post by Admin on Nov 19, 2021 22:59:59 GMT
My thoughts about the royals are this..I love the pagentry and the pomp in regards to all the major calender events, like Royal Ascot or the knights of the garter, or even the grand royal weddings. I've been a student of royalty since childhood, when I watched Diana's wedding. I'm in love with them, and I'm American. The Queen is a hero of mine. Granted there have been times when she's misstepped, but I find her a fascinating person and the day she dies, all the mystique will unfortunately go with her. As much as I adore William and respect Kate, I don't see mystique with them, just a lot of "blah". I'm actually distantly related to them...all. I believe you may find some posts here...somewhere. I'd go in more detail, but think what I've shared is fine for now. I'm related to them, but not fond of a good many of them, but yes, there are a lot of royals that seem like decent people and I don't mind them at all. I've been fascinated by royalty all my life, it seems, and now I guess I know why. lol As a member of the Commonwealth, the Queen and BRF have played a large part in public life where I grew up. I personally have been very close to them when they visited my country many, many times. Imagine, seeing them drive by, or being within feet of them, etc, and finding out later, hey, they are family?  Many people on this forum have direct insider information and other royal-ish links, etc, and certainly know their stuff. We come from all over the world. You will find an array of opinions here on a good many royals - good, bad, and indifferent. All views are welcome. We can get heated about our opinions, but never against other posters. Have some fun, all. Cheers, Admin  |
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Post by kueifei on Nov 21, 2021 1:34:17 GMT
Throughout the pandemic they have done nothing for anyone and certainly not for their nations. They have not sealed trade deals to bring in needed supplies (and oversee their distribution) and they have certainly not done anything to make their people feel secure. I am sick of hearing about their 'grand destiny' and they NEVER let people forget about it and it irritates me that almost none of them take pride in how they appear or behave. None of them even dress right, like Maxima who was sitting with her feet bare in a teleconference and it is clear that she isn't aware of how bad things are. I am sick of their demands to be in the spotlight and take attention away even from guests who are supposed to be honored and be the center of hard earned attention.
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Post by cheryl on Nov 22, 2021 5:35:25 GMT
Most British people are in some way or other related to the current royal family and the Abney-Hastings' family. I've met The Queen, Prince Philip, the Queen Mother, Charles, Anne, Edward and Andrew, the Duke of Kent and Katherine his wife and some of the next generation more than a few times. My grandmother and grandmother came from titled families. My grandmother was a Lady. Both of them are in Burke's peerage. British royals are not in business of sealing deals, they are there to flatter dictators and other nations' leaders, to charm them. I dislike how they kow tow to the Saudis and that monster from Dubai.
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Post by Admin on Nov 23, 2021 4:04:52 GMT
Most British people are in some way or other related to the current royal family and the Abney-Hastings' family. I've met The Queen, Prince Philip, the Queen Mother, Charles, Anne, Edward and Andrew, the Duke of Kent and Katherine his wife and some of the next generation more than a few times. My grandmother and grandmother came from titled families. My grandmother was a Lady. Both of them are in Burke's peerage. British royals are not in business of sealing deals, they are there to flatter dictators and other nations' leaders, to charm them. I dislike how they kow tow to the Saudis and that monster from Dubai. I'm distantly related to the BRF and many others mostly through my German heritage, but have a strong English background as well (thank you, Ancestry and other links, etc). I've often wondered why I have had a strong interest in royalty mostly all my life - I've literally collected old books on royalty going back years. It is interesting that I later find out I am apparently related to a good many of them. I had a distant great-grandmother who was a lady/countess, but in the German nobility - through her and her siblings/parents/grandparents, etc, was able to discover distant connections with nearly every RF in Europe (by sharing common ancestors) And that wasn't an easy feat, but I realized that mostly every and any RF is related to German nobility, so once I found this one link, I went forward and did my own investigation. So, I can call the Queen, Duke, and family my cousins. Apparently.  |
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Post by kueifei on Nov 28, 2021 3:49:11 GMT
I hope that after this pandemic, politicians and the public take a long, hard look at the actions of their royal families and face the hard fact that during these troubled times, they have done nothing for anyone around them. They did nothing financially, they did nothing to keep trade moving along, and they did nothing for their people's well being, they did nothing to boost mor@le and nothing to even make sure that needed supplies were brought in and failed to even behave decently. The Danish royals let their own second in line get exposed in regular school and all these royals should not be jet setting, they should be staying inside their palaces, on the grounds, but they refuse to do even that. They have not made one single contribution and they refuse to make any sacrifices, like no more vanity tours or tropical vacations. Even now the King and Queen of Spain are going on a silly vanity tour to party while the politicians and diplomats struggle to keep governments running and medical personnel struggle to handle all the patients and the recently developing varietals. (edit) There is also a terrible cultural shift and it is not transitioning smoothly. That will end up causing even more unrest. Yet royals still party and vacation.
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Post by nyetochka40 on Dec 5, 2021 16:58:42 GMT
I have always wondered, how would british society react if William or Harry married fully black woman ( or Indian , Thai, or Japanese) .
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Post by kueifei on Dec 10, 2021 21:49:06 GMT
I think it is past time that politicians start making it clear that if royals want to have fun at uni, they do it without their titles. If princes and princesses want to play at being trust fund kids, let's see how they like being treated like any other trust fund kid. No taxpayer support, no respect/salutes, no taxpayer bodyguards and no access to stuff that is for official use. I also dislike how royals can't just stay in their palaces, they insist on having private estates to play in and prefer to basically raise their kids like spoiled snowflake suburban kids and I resent how they go to uni to put off duties, not to learn anything useful or concrete. No more playing at being the white savior of a black African tribe and no more screwing around with groupies and letting them play on palace grounds. If Amalia wants to chill at uni and play at being a student while sipping taxpayer paid for lattes, let her do without her "HRH" nimbus and see how she likes normalcy. See how she likes to be pushed around or looked down on and everyone saw how Diana and Fergie were treated after their nimbus was removed. Both ladies were comfortably off, but regrettably the lost of their social status ended up resulting in their getting crucified by the press and cut out in certain social circles. If they want to jet set into foreign nations, let them be billed and let their expenses be itemized and published so the people can see their spending habits. If Kate wants to shop instead of work, let Charles foot the bills instead of the taxpayer. Even better, let the snots get paid per engagement so they are incentivized to actually DO DUTIES and not mooch around or just go to the glamorous stuff. They really need to start thinking long and clear about whether or not they are actually TRYING to contribute. For some reason that photo of a toddler Amalia playing with her mother's tiara irritated me since it is a priceless ancestral jewel and for some reason she's toying with it like she's playing dress up with a piece of plastic. If they want their kids to be protected snowflakes, like a spoiled suburban kid, they have no right to the 'extras' that royals get. I also dislike how they keep acting surprised about how their lives change after a change in the succession; they should be prepared for this, to step out of that sheltering safe space and be almost eager for the change. I get sick of hearing about their problems, as if people do not have enough of their own already (I blame Diana for this) and I am sick and tired of hearing about how royal life is some huge adjustment (Kate and Meg) as if they had not read up enough on it for years. Meg knew that a change in nations would have to occur and I dislike how royals think of themselves as players without even taking any kinds of hits or anything else for that matter.
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Post by Admin on Dec 11, 2021 17:45:53 GMT
I think it is past time that politicians start making it clear that if royals want to have fun at uni, they do it without their titles. If princes and princesses want to play at being trust fund kids, let's see how they like being treated like any other trust fund kid. No taxpayer support, no respect/salutes, no taxpayer bodyguards and no access to stuff that is for official use. I also dislike how royals can't just stay in their palaces, they insist on having private estates to play in and prefer to basically raise their kids like spoiled snowflake suburban kids and I resent how they go to uni to put off duties, not to learn anything useful or concrete. No more playing at being the white savior of a black African tribe and no more screwing around with groupies and letting them play on palace grounds. If Amalia wants to chill at uni and play at being a student while sipping taxpayer paid for lattes, let her do without her "HRH" nimbus and see how she likes normalcy. See how she likes to be pushed around or looked down on and everyone saw how Diana and Fergie were treated after their nimbus was removed. Both ladies were comfortably off, but regrettably the lost of their social status ended up resulting in their getting crucified by the press and cut out in certain social circles. If they want to jet set into foreign nations, let them be billed and let their expenses be itemized and published so the people can see their spending habits. If Kate wants to shop instead of work, let Charles foot the bills instead of the taxpayer. Even better, let the snots get paid per engagement so they are incentivized to actually DO DUTIES and not mooch around or just go to the glamorous stuff. They really need to start thinking long and clear about whether or not they are actually TRYING to contribute. For some reason that photo of a toddler Amalia playing with her mother's tiara irritated me since it is a priceless ancestral jewel and for some reason she's toying with it like she's playing dress up with a piece of plastic. If they want their kids to be protected snowflakes, like a spoiled suburban kid, they have no right to the 'extras' that royals get. I also dislike how they keep acting surprised about how their lives change after a change in the succession; they should be prepared for this, to step out of that sheltering safe space and be almost eager for the change. I get sick of hearing about their problems, as if people do not have enough of their own already (I blame Diana for this) and I am sick and tired of hearing about how royal life is some huge adjustment (Kate and Meg) as if they had not read up enough on it for years. Meg knew that a change in nations would have to occur and I dislike how royals think of themselves as players without even taking any kinds of hits or anything else for that matter.  |
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Post by kueifei on Dec 12, 2021 21:57:20 GMT
I've been doing a lot of thinking about the royal jewels and quite frankly, I dislike how those jewels that hold hundreds of years worth of history actually seem cheap now that they are worn by cheap women. The women wearing those jewels used to mean something, they used to be a somebody who had accomplished a lot or was making an insanely huge sacrifice, usually personal. Those jewels used to sit on the heads of women who knew multiple languages, brought impressive ancestry, and brought treaties for either trade or peace with them. I also think that it makes me sick with disgust at how someone like Mette-Marit or Maxima (her monster father), or someone like Kate wears those rocks and they think they wear it by right. Or that duty is negotiable when it isn't. When Diana first wore her jewels, it suited her since she came from that way of life and marriage as a teen is a HUGE sacrifice for any teen to make, no matter how much she came from that way of life. Yet as Diana started making bad choices and running with lowlife men, seeing her wear the Spencer tiara or Lover's Knot came to be a kind of joke since she wasn't officially a member of the BRF and was not officially a member of the BRF and she was a Spencer, but not an official rep of her family. She was no more than the type of women that consorts are now. Good time girls, trashy single moms with no stable male figure in sight, and who knows what else. Diana, when she became what she did during her last year, she seemed out of place among the 'real' set that shunned her after her divorce. Diana really didn't realize that the place she was trying to carve out was not that of some semi-royal, but that of a celebrity getting above her place. She had no right to meet with heads of state and if not for her perverse preference for drama and attention, she might have never paved the way for celebrities to have the kind of public access that they ended up having thanks to her example. It is a complete charade seeing her wear a tiara/royal jewels, to events that were just publicity events, nothing serious or substantial. Throughout her entire early tenure as consort, she kept demanding that the BRF justify to her why she should fit in with them and not the other way around. I also think that I get sick and tired of hearing about how Diana didn't 'get' why she should do this, or that, or show up at Balmor@l and put on a great face at the very least. She then wondered 'why' she should stay married, despite the fact that it wasn't just a marriage, but a contract with a nation. She didn't just welsh out on her marriage, but welshed out on her duty she pledged herself to her nation.
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Post by kueifei on Dec 20, 2021 16:26:09 GMT
I think the biggest mistake that royals have been allowed to make it to convince people that all it takes is hard work to live at their level. Thing is, that hard work isn't enough, it takes keen intelligence and it takes real concrete street smarts and the willingness to do dirty work. William wasn't raised to be aware of this and he's just plain stupid, but when royals did the dirty work, they got respect and they matured and were not at all people who were actually soft or stupid enough to think that the middle class way of life was preferable. Royals knew they had it good and it is only VERY RECENT that they've whined about their lot in life. I blame the late Princess of Wales for making it fashionable to whine/moan/complain (publicly at least) and Charles is just as bad about his complaining. Royals shouldn't be jet setting after a round of engagements and they should not be trying to convince people that appearances are hard work, they aren't. If I have learned anything, if you want to move up in the work, you have to do work that gets you dirty in one form or another. You can't sit in a parlor all day and can't just mooch around and sit idle unless one is a mistress, but even mistresses have to be in tip/top shape. Royals are raised in luxury, as a matter of course, but they regrettably think that playing at being middle class actually builds some kind of connection. To me, the real connection comes from being in create service to their nation/people and playing at being a middle class university student isn't of any practical help to their people's needs. William playing at being a middle class kid at uni and getting a silly art degree is of no help to anyone and it is clear that William viewed his uni time as play time and even had the gall to take a gap year as if he was entitled to more fun after four years of 'studying' at school and then proceeding to jet set during the holidays instead of attending on HM to building any semblance of a relationship with the Scottish people of the St. Andrews community. If just for once, William had stayed put instead of running around like a fool, he would have lived a very different life, gone in a very different direction. He would have been better off engaging the Scottish people and building that bond with himself and the crown and I am certain that he would be a man of substance. Royals have become jet setters, contributing nothing to their nations (as evidence by their worse than uselessness during this pandemic) and it is clear that they do not work hard.
I dislike how a lot of people think that the Crown Princess of the Netherlands is 'down with the working class' because she waited tables for a few months at a beach cafe, or that somehow university is in fact 'all for her' because she wants to sip lattes at at school cafeteria and pretend to be one of the bourgeoisie. If she wants all of that so badly, she can forgo her title and since she is eighteen, she can do just that. She is not at all someone who belongs on campus anyway. I resent the idea that she thinks she has a right to more playtime when at eighteen, legal adults are often EAGER for more responsibility and the respect that comes with it, not less respect. She also has a lot of nerve thinking that the world, the Dutch nation, should just wait on her and should just sit still while she plays at pretending that she has to get a qualification to actually get a job/earn a living. While her education is important, qualifications are important, she should not sit in classes and pretend that she is just like all the other students; she isn't and never will be and she has a responsibility to educate herself in a secure setting and the school will be under stress to provide security that she needs because of her target status. And then there will be the fact that she has no real place there. Royals do not belong on campus and do not belong pretending that they have any kind of a kid who has either an uncertain future or are entitled to decide the ultimate profession that they will be engaging in.
Royals at 18-28 should be required to spend those years deciding if they want to stay in the royal way of life or walk out and never come back. This whole 'woe is me I have no choices' BS has to end and it is clear that royals need to be required to make hard choices like their ancestors, but because of the current era, those choices should be along the lines of a life in royal life, or a life of an untitled, but privileged private citizen.
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mars
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Post by mars on Jan 24, 2022 12:01:24 GMT
One strong opinion I have about the British royals is how little authority they have on mor@lity and religion. How can anyone, let alone their subjects respect them?
I could maybe understand it if the monarch was not also supreme governor of the Church of England, but she is and one day her heirs will be, it is their duty to lead in regards to religion.
Maybe they think the missteps of monarchs past give them right to live however they please but every generation has the responsibility to first honor their ancestors through good conduct and second to aspire to better conduct.
HM has earned respect in her reign, but aside from Charles' work, what respect has his personal affairs earned? How often does he even attend church? On that note, it's a guarantee William attends even less. William doesn't even have the record of solid work and ideas Charles does. Despite their one day full title including defender of the faith, can an anyone imagine them as head of church? If the equivalent position is the papacy, what do the Windsor heirs have as remotely equal qualifications?
They try to appear relatable, but the monarchy and leader of the church, defender of the faith is the last place I'd want any unrepentant debauchee with demimondes for wives. And to that, how little do they think of their subjects if they think their transgressions are common to the whole?
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Post by kueifei on Jan 24, 2022 20:45:19 GMT
Charles is a man who keeps getting crucified for having a mistress, despite the fact that Diana had so many lovers and a few we know about were in fact married. Diana did just as much dirt. She was taken advantage of as an ingenue, but she was not nineteen at the time of her divorce and death.
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tale BS.
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