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Post by Admin on Apr 17, 2021 4:05:53 GMT
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Post by kueifei on Apr 17, 2021 13:34:26 GMT
I sometimes wonder how much of a choice that Philip did in fact have. Imagine if you're a penniless prince and while you have lineage and a career, you don't have a home or family to turn to. Then suddenly an heiress to a vast empire sees you and she fancies you. Imagine the pressure and the hassle that comes with that and imagine how painful it would be to end up being required to either take that chance at a grand match or live a still impecunious life. He could have had a brilliant naval career, but thing is, that pull for a chance at a home and financial security (of a very kept kind, but still). The pressure must have been insane and I believe that he wasn't able to really withstand all of that.
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Post by princesseth on Apr 17, 2021 18:11:20 GMT
I sometimes wonder how much of a choice that Philip did in fact have. Imagine if you're a penniless prince and while you have lineage and a career, you don't have a home or family to turn to. Then suddenly an heiress to a vast empire sees you and she fancies you. Imagine the pressure and the hassle that comes with that and imagine how painful it would be to end up being required to either take that chance at a grand match or live a still impecunious life. He could have had a brilliant naval career, but thing is, that pull for a chance at a home and financial security (of a very kept kind, but still). The pressure must have been insane and I believe that he wasn't able to really withstand all of that. I do think he loved Queen Elizabeth but I kind of wonder if it didn't take time. As you say, the pressure to marry had to have been intense which why I also think he understood the pressure Diana was under and likewise, did NOT understand why she behaved as she did at times. Today, it was poignant to hear the BBC person say, "For all his life with Queen Elizabeth he was always 2 steps behind her. Today is the first, and last, time he will be in front of her." He did his duty, gave the world who watch some laughable gaffs (and not so laughable). But I think at his core, his honor, duty, love was first and foremost. How much better would all of us be if we focused like he did on what really mattered? Duty, honor, loyalty, love.
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Post by kueifei on Apr 17, 2021 18:20:55 GMT
I sometimes wonder how much of a choice that Philip did in fact have. Imagine if you're a penniless prince and while you have lineage and a career, you don't have a home or family to turn to. Then suddenly an heiress to a vast empire sees you and she fancies you. Imagine the pressure and the hassle that comes with that and imagine how painful it would be to end up being required to either take that chance at a grand match or live a still impecunious life. He could have had a brilliant naval career, but thing is, that pull for a chance at a home and financial security (of a very kept kind, but still). The pressure must have been insane and I believe that he wasn't able to really withstand all of that. I do think he loved Queen Elizabeth but I kind of wonder if it didn't take time. As you say, the pressure to marry had to have been intense which why I also think he understood the pressure Diana was under and likewise, did NOT understand why she behaved as she did at times. Duty, honor, loyalty, love.
This in a nutshell. He knew all about family pride and ambition and pressure, so he was on Diana's side in that, but he did not understand why Diana did not just chill, enjoy the ride, and also most importantly, support Charles and appreciate that she did have it better than 100% of other women in unhappy marriages. Philip likely understood completely the pressure Diana was under from her family and I think what Philip could not understand (and neither can I ) is how Diana didn't just kind of break like he did. I sometimes think that Philip broke because he was not from a culture of people who questioned everything and I believe that in order to save his sanity Philip just justified everything about that system.
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Post by princesseth on Apr 17, 2021 19:11:26 GMT
I do think he loved Queen Elizabeth but I kind of wonder if it didn't take time. As you say, the pressure to marry had to have been intense which why I also think he understood the pressure Diana was under and likewise, did NOT understand why she behaved as she did at times. Duty, honor, loyalty, love.
This in a nutshell. He knew all about family pride and ambition and pressure, so he was on Diana's side in that, but he did not understand why Diana did not just chill, enjoy the ride, and also most importantly, support Charles and appreciate that she did have it better than 100% of other women in unhappy marriages. Philip likely understood completely the pressure Diana was under from her family and I think what Philip could not understand (and neither can I ) is how Diana didn't just kind of break like he did. I sometimes think that Philip broke because he was not from a culture of people who questioned everything and I believe that in order to save his sanity Philip just justified everything about that system.
I look at Philip as royalty and Diana as aristocratic. There's a difference, to me. He knew expectations when he married the-then PE. He had been groomed since birth for his own royal role. Diana was raised in a messy household which, to me, led to her mental health issues: no stability, no love, no mother (or at least a decent/stable one), no nothing. She looked to Prince Charles as a savior - to rescue her and love her; Charles loved Camila. Philip knew to buck up/shut up. I don't know/haven't heard if QE ever dallied and with the look on her face, when she looks at PP, she never did. She still had the twinkle in her eye for him Diana didn't understand her role and while I think she tried to, she always believed PC really loved her. I don't think he ever really did. When she realized the reality of it all, she was trapped with mental health spiraling, pregnancy. Back to PP, I think he did love QE; I think that love grew primarily because QE never humiliated him for the rumored dalliances. QE KNEW her role in society and that eventually, she would "win" - and I believe, she did. And sadly, on 4/9/21 her heart broke and today, my heart broke for a widow who loved her prince who just happened to be The Prince.
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Post by kueifei on Apr 18, 2021 0:24:40 GMT
This in a nutshell. He knew all about family pride and ambition and pressure, so he was on Diana's side in that, but he did not understand why Diana did not just chill, enjoy the ride, and also most importantly, support Charles and appreciate that she did have it better than 100% of other women in unhappy marriages. Philip likely understood completely the pressure Diana was under from her family and I think what Philip could not understand (and neither can I ) is how Diana didn't just kind of break like he did. I sometimes think that Philip broke because he was not from a culture of people who questioned everything and I believe that in order to save his sanity Philip just justified everything about that system.
I look at Philip as royalty and Diana as aristocratic. There's a difference, to me. He knew expectations when he married the-then PE. He had been groomed since birth for his own royal role. Diana was raised in a messy household which, to me, led to her mental health issues: no stability, no love, no mother (or at least a decent/stable one), no nothing. She looked to Prince Charles as a savior - to rescue her and love her; Charles loved Camila. Philip knew to buck up/shut up. I don't know/haven't heard if QE ever dallied and with the look on her face, when she looks at PP, she never did. She still had the twinkle in her eye for him Diana didn't understand her role and while I think she tried to, she always believed PC really loved her. I don't think he ever really did. When she realized the reality of it all, she was trapped with mental health spiraling, pregnancy. Back to PP, I think he did love QE; I think that love grew primarily because QE never humiliated him for the rumored dalliances. QE KNEW her role in society and that eventually, she would "win" - and I believe, she did. And sadly, on 4/9/21 her heart broke and today, my heart broke for a widow who loved her prince who just happened to be The Prince.
Thing is, that I think there is SOMETHING unique about royalty that they are in fact groomed for a broader perspective and a kind of knowledge of how good they in fact have it. They are fit only for the world stage and it is clear that the most recent generation is a washout compared to the others. I sincerely think that some kind of chain of command broke when the Wales marriage broke up and I believe that Philip was right to be enraged at how Diana and Fergie kind of welshed out. As for Charles loving Camilla, I think it was an unhealthy emotional/psychological dependency and Camilla milked it for all it was worth. Philip and HM HAD to become emotionally and psychologically independent and despite the upbringing Charles had, it ended up being a horrible misfire when Charles was NOT required to take up residence and duties in Wales as he should have. If Charles had been living in Wales and not Highgrove, he would not have been able to easily access Camilla and also would have been too busy with duties related to his Principality to bother messing with Camilla. As Prince of Wales he would have been active in that Principality, having the authority of a mini-king, a ViceRoy, and would have been able to really dig in in terms of making his own mark on the Principality. Then Diana would have been a mini-queen and would have been able to queen it over Wales and really dig in with her AIDS work and her own court set. For some reason, Philip turned out well, but Diana fell apart.
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Post by Admin on Apr 21, 2021 4:32:57 GMT
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Post by kueifei on Apr 22, 2021 1:46:59 GMT
I really admire how he continued to make a full life for himself and how he continued to contribute towards the wider world. He could have given up and rolled over, but he chose to create a great role for male consorts for the future.
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Post by Admin on May 1, 2021 21:04:43 GMT
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Post by Admin on May 12, 2021 12:59:41 GMT
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Post by kueifei on May 14, 2021 2:42:27 GMT
Aside from sleeping with actresses and showgirls on a regular basis, Philip is the one who celebritized the BRF when he made the bad choice to invite entertainers to the palace to chat with HM and when he hectored HM into doing that family documentary that exposed the BRF in their intimate lives. He marketed the BRF as if they were a sitcom show and made the bad choice to push HM to take a more performance oriented approach. If he had ended up using his thick skull, he wouldn't have led the BRF into that very mess. Philip was a huge asset, but his fascination with entertainment was his downfall.
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Post by Admin on May 28, 2021 16:28:53 GMT
www.celebitchy.com/717127/prince_philip_left_his_30_million_to_his_widow_his_grandkids_his_loyal_aides/Prince Philip left his £30 million to his widow, his grandkids & his loyal aides May 28, 2021 By Kaiser Prince Philip, Royals Prince Philip left financial gifts to three senior aides in his estimated £30million will before his death aged 99 six weeks ago, a royal source claimed today. The Duke of Edinburgh is thought to have rewarded his private secretary Brigadier Archie Miller-Bakewell and pages William Henderson and Stephen Niedojadlo. The trio were among a group of six aides who walked behind senior Royal Family members and Philip’s coffin for his funeral procession at Windsor Castle on April 17. But none of the men could attend the service itself inside St George’s Chapel because national Covid-19 restrictions limited the number of mourners to 30.
Most of Philip’s estate is thought to have gone to the Queen – while money to his grandchildren would have been ‘sorted out quite a while ago’, it was reported. It means Prince Harry could be set to receive some cash despite launching a series of fierce attacks on the Royal Family in his ‘truth bomb’ interviews in recent months.
A source close to Buckingham Palace told the Sun: ‘Unlike some other royals, Prince Philip will be generous to the three men who looked after him. These include his private secretary Brigadier Archie Miller Bakewell, his page William Henderson and Stephen Niedojadlo.’
They added: ‘Philip was not the sort of character to punish a grandson [Harry] for misbehaving. He was a very fair, even-handed and lovely man. Never held a grudge.’
The source also said that Philip’s children – Charles, Anne, Edward and Andrew – were told they can ‘take what they want’ from his library of 13,000 books at the palace.
Brigadier Miller-Bakewell headed a small team of loyal staff that followed Philip’s coffin last month, in recognition of his years of devotion.[From The Daily Mail] Aside: Then if you don't know, Kaiser, why not do something called research and look for the answers? There's something beyond making it about Meghan, you know?"The fact that Philip would leave money to his personal aides isn’t surprising – that’s what many wealthy people do, it’s that noblesse oblige thing of wanting to “reward” peasants for decades of service. I have no idea why the Mail is making such a big deal about that, especially given that we have no idea how Philip accrued roughly $42 million over his lifetime! As for the idea that he would leave some money to his grandkids… the way they make it sound, it’s like he possibly set up trusts for his grandkids when they were born. That’s just my assumption, I have nothing to back that up. But “sorted out quite a while ago” makes me think that he set up those trusts years ago. And that he probably didn’t leave much to his great-grandkids. Now I want to know who gets all of those UFO books."
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Post by Admin on May 28, 2021 16:33:03 GMT
Some of the comments:ThatgirlThere says: May 28, 2021 at 9:23 am How indeed did he accumulate 30 million? Man it pays to be a royal. Reply Elizabeth Regina says: May 28, 2021 at 9:29 am That is the £30 million pound question. Reply Cecilia says: May 28, 2021 at 9:33 am Especially since royals apparently aren’t allowed to commercialize and do business with their titles remember? Reply Lizzie says: May 28, 2021 at 10:18 am Another senior royal trading on his title to make money? Also, why leave millions to one of the richest women on earth? Reply RoyalBlue says: May 28, 2021 at 10:47 am It was probably her Maj’s money to begin with. She must have gifted him some spending money along the way, so it makes sense to bequeath it back to her. Mtec says: May 28, 2021 at 10:41 am Maybe he got a sizeable inheritance in the millions, he was 99 years old, that’s a lot of time to accumulate wealth through interest and investments. You don’t get to 30mil on salary alone. Reply SarahCS says: May 28, 2021 at 9:23 am I know this shouldn’t bother me but in recent years how exactly has Harry ‘misbehaved’ Do tell. Now, his behaviour when he was younger is a whole other matter although I have every confidence that Phillip and the rest heartily approved of that for all sorts of reasons. Reply Elizabeth Regina says: May 28, 2021 at 9:31 am He married a black woman. In their books, there is no greater sin. I’m sure Harry will tell them to keep the change. Reply Liz version 700 says: May 28, 2021 at 9:40 am Absolutely, they should donate his inheritance to a racial justice organization in Phil’s honor and wait for the explosion swirlmamad says: May 28, 2021 at 9:47 am @liz version 700, that would be amazing. Like all those folks donating to Planned Parenthood on Mike Pence’s behalf. Elizabeth Phillips says: May 28, 2021 at 11:47 am She isn’t just black, but also an American AND and actress, quelle horreur! OriginalLala says: May 28, 2021 at 9:25 am Hmmm I wonder if any of the RR will dig around to find out how Philip enriched himself to this degree?? Reply NotSoSocialButterfly says: May 28, 2021 at 9:26 am Queen Jersey tax haven doesn’t need any more money. Reply Snuffles says: May 28, 2021 at 9:26 am Yeah, I agree he probably set up trusts for them ages ago. Make you wonder how much the initial value has increased with interests and investments over the past 30+ years. Each of them could be getting a pretty tidy sum. Which makes me wonder, would it be enough for the grandchildren that want to break free from The Firm to do so. Like Eugenie and Beatrice. They might be able to buy their own damn houses and not try to live off of an allowance from Charles (who’s dying to cut them off) or Bulliam in the future who would probably be even more brutal. Reply Elizabeth Regina says: May 28, 2021 at 9:33 am The thought of Baldilocks holding the purse strings must have been one of the motivators for the Sussexes to flee that family. Reply
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Post by romilly on May 30, 2021 12:07:23 GMT
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Post by Admin on Aug 6, 2021 12:58:04 GMT
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Post by Admin on Sept 23, 2021 1:57:01 GMT
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Post by Admin on Sept 23, 2021 4:09:13 GMT
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Post by romilly on Sept 26, 2021 10:38:51 GMT
Poor Charles came over as a bit of a twat in the documentary and seemed to speak less than most. It was agreed everywhere that Edward and Sophie’s delightful daughter was undoubtedly the star.
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Post by romilly on Nov 18, 2021 17:11:46 GMT
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Post by cleopatra on Nov 18, 2021 23:20:50 GMT
As usual I'm sure there's a lot the rf have to . It must be awful living like that
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