The "saviours" of the BRF - the Charles/William, etc, angle

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Aside: For what it's worth, I wouldn't antagonize Andrew. It's not wrong that he suffers his own repercussions, he's had it coming for the longest time, but from what he knows about William (in particular) and how HE has betrayed the Crown, then Charles and/or William cannot afford to be so smug and high-handed and rile Andy too much. I and others know on good account that Andrew knows exactly what is going on behind the scenes. He's only one rotten branch of a very diseased family tree.

Who is next to be culled from the proverbial herd ? Harry already out, and now talk of driving out the Yorkies, and then moving on to Edward and Anne and their children, etc? Drive out any true royal relative for the sake of...well, I think you understand what I'm getting at. Why is the Queen and/or her handlers allowing for the one being that has absolutely destroyed his family's 1000 year old legacy? Yes, believe it or not, Andrew is not even the worst of the lot.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10400495/RICHARD-KAY-deal-no-one-dreamed-possible-Andrew-arrived-castle.html#comments

RICHARD KAY: The deal no one dreamed possible was done before Andrew even arrived at the castle - and it bore the imprint of both Charles AND William
By RICHARD KAY FOR THE DAILY MAIL

PUBLISHED: 17:19 EST, 13 January 2022 | UPDATED: 17:19 EST, 13 January 2022

At the end, it was just the two of them: Mother and son talking quietly and agreeing a future neither in their worst nightmares would have dreamed possible.

If the extravagantly ornate ticking clock on the mantelpiece of the Queen’s private apartment in Windsor Castle where they met yesterday had wound itself back half a century to when the Queen was consoling the schoolboy Andrew over a grazed knee, say, there would not have been a more intimate moment.

Here was Prince Andrew, the Queen’s favourite, who for the first 22 years of his life had exalted in the pre-eminent status of heir in line to the throne, effectively handing in his badge of office.

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letsusbefrank, Somewhere, United Kingdom, 1 day ago

The Dukedom should go too. The only thing you can say about the gruesome twosome Andy & Fergs is that, by some miracle, they appear to have produced two relatively well-adjusted daughters. The nanny must have been worth their weight in gold.

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Rob London, LONDON, United Kingdom, 1 day ago

Well said

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CubbyCat, Sburg, United States, 1 day ago

Andrew and Sarah should follow Harry and Meghan's path and head out of the UK. Maybe Harry can get them jobs with one of the several companies he now makes money off of, like Netflix.

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carms girl, Carmarthenshire, United Kingdom, 24 hours ago

Stripped of all titles should mean he's just Andrew Windsor, not a Duke!

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Aj2109, Edinburgh, United Kingdom, 24 hours ago

Having a family member who served with him on the same ship in the Falklands, have not one good word to say about the man, has always been the best judgement of him I've heard.

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Oregongirl, Pacific Northwest, United States, 24 hours ago

My understanding from reading interviews over the years is Charles and Andrew are not close and never were. I doubt this was a hard decision for Charles.

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mightymart, Thereabouts, United Kingdom, 1 day ago

Charles and William are the future monarchy - what they says goes.

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LenssLenses, Washington, United States, 1 day ago

Agreed.

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RightWingLova., Wuhan, United Kingdom, 1 day ago

Took them 2 years

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Tom Gunn, Baildon, United Kingdom, 1 day ago

The Queen has basically told the US courts that the Royal Family will not underwrite Andrew against any silly compensation claim.

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seriously1977, Northern Ireland , United Kingdom, 24 hours ago

He has no money she will get nothing

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E.Faulkner, down on the border, United States, 24 hours ago

Nor should they. He got into this mess all on his own.

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Dustyrusty, Lonestar, United Kingdom, 1 day ago

I really feel for the Queen with what she has had to put up with the last couple of years. Harry and Andrew have a lot to answer for.

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welsh and happy, Wales, United Kingdom, 1 day ago

Charles is not blameless either.

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Solart, London, United Kingdom, 24 hours ago

The Queen is a master at dealing with difficult matters.

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Solart, London, United Kingdom, 24 hours ago

He gave himself the chance to explain the position and dismally failed. That interview that should never have been released was a colossal mistake.

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E.Faulkner, down on the border, United States, 24 hours ago

Good that the Queen, Charles and William are circling the wagons. A united front.

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lakefront, Toronto, Canada, 1 day ago

Charles and William protecting their future roles.

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desertdwllr, London expat now Torquay VIC, Australia, 1 day ago

It's personal. It's survival.

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oh_diane_h, Wales, United Kingdom, 1 day ago

Yes, thank goodness.

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Who is next to be culled from the proverbial herd ? Harry already out, and now talk of driving out the Yorkies, and then moving on to Edward and Anne and their children, etc? Drive out any true royal relative for the sake of...well, I think you understand what I'm getting at. Why is the Queen and her handlers allowing for the one being that has absolutely destroyed his family's 1000 year old legacy? Yes, believe it or not, Andrew is not even the worst of the lot.

HM won't do it until it is public, that is how she operates. I also think that at some point the entire dynasty will be dissolved; Kate is next on the cull list and I am certain that it won't be pretty. Kate can't be allowed to stay now that she has announced that she will not be working.

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Jan 15, 2022 1:39:51 GMT kueifei said:

Who is next to be culled from the proverbial herd ? Harry already out, and now talk of driving out the Yorkies, and then moving on to Edward and Anne and their children, etc? Drive out any true royal relative for the sake of...well, I think you understand what I'm getting at. Why is the Queen and her handlers allowing for the one being that has absolutely destroyed his family's 1000 year old legacy? Yes, believe it or not, Andrew is not even the worst of the lot.

HM won't do it until it is public, that is how she operates. I also think that at some point the entire dynasty will be dissolved; Kate is next on the cull list and I am certain that it won't be pretty. Kate can't be allowed to stay now that she has announced that she will not be working.

I'm almost not thinking it will be her - The Queen allowed her so-called "favourite" son to be driven out, yet does squat about Kate, William and the Middletons. Does she have to be openly called out to even care? :-/

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Jan 15, 2022 1:39:51 GMT kueifei said:

Who is next to be culled from the proverbial herd ? Harry already out, and now talk of driving out the Yorkies, and then moving on to Edward and Anne and their children, etc? Drive out any true royal relative for the sake of...well, I think you understand what I'm getting at. Why is the Queen and her handlers allowing for the one being that has absolutely destroyed his family's 1000 year old legacy? Yes, believe it or not, Andrew is not even the worst of the lot.

HM won't do it until it is public, that is how she operates. I also think that at some point the entire dynasty will be dissolved; Kate is next on the cull list and I am certain that it won't be pretty. Kate can't be allowed to stay now that she has announced that she will not be working.

When did Kate say she won't be working? She and William are being touted as the saviours of the Monarchy

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Post by romilly on Jan 15, 2022 11:40:21 GMT

There was an article and a lot on Twitter but can’t remember where article was.

Many commenters saying she is not going to work as much negativity with comments about the public being heartily sick of her ‘being shoved down their throats’. Others saying she is disappearing from public view as ma Midd allegedly wants to arrange another surrogate sprog!!

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Jan 15, 2022 8:42:47 GMT cleopatra said:

Jan 15, 2022 1:39:51 GMT kueifei said:

HM won't do it until it is public, that is how she operates. I also think that at some point the entire dynasty will be dissolved; Kate is next on the cull list and I am certain that it won't be pretty. Kate can't be allowed to stay now that she has announced that she will not be working.

When did Kate say she won't be working? She and William are being touted as the saviours of the Monarchy

Richard Palmer tweeted that Kate would be focusing on the kids for the next ten to fifteen years.

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Post by romilly on Jan 15, 2022 16:28:41 GMT

www.dailymail.co.uk/reader-comments/p/comment/link/797682325

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SaxeWettin1 - you are spot on and more shocking secrets are said to be going to be revealed this coming year. The revelations will allegedly rock the Monarchy and are said to be the final nail in the coffin
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Their popularity will allegedly be rocked to the foundations with the promised forthcoming revelations

Some future of the Monarchy!!

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Post by kueifei on Jan 15, 2022 16:34:21 GMT

Now that an "HRH" can have his titles yanked, I wager this precedent can be used for others. Put bluntly, Parliament could now act in regards to yanking the "HRH" nimbus with the intent of putting royals in line instead of just putting up with it. Andrew is officially shorn of a nimbus he has had his entire life and realistically, Kate is next and Harry will likely lose his HRH as well. He isn't a resident of the UK and he is not at all doing anything but making a very public fool of himself.

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Jan 15, 2022 16:34:21 GMT kueifei said:

Now that an "HRH" can have his titles yanked, I wager this precedent can be used for others. Put bluntly, Parliament could now act in regards to yanking the "HRH" nimbus with the intent of putting royals in line instead of just putting up with it. Andrew is officially shorn of a nimbus he has had his entire life and realistically, Kate is next and Harry will likely lose his HRH as well. He isn't a resident of the UK and he is not at all doing anything but making a very public fool of himself.

And the royals having their titles yanked can choose to be open and expose some deceptions and hypocrisy behind the scenes, too. It's getting really ugly and may just backfire.

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Jan 15, 2022 17:16:24 GMT Admin said:

Jan 15, 2022 16:34:21 GMT kueifei said:

Now that an "HRH" can have his titles yanked, I wager this precedent can be used for others. Put bluntly, Parliament could now act in regards to yanking the "HRH" nimbus with the intent of putting royals in line instead of just putting up with it. Andrew is officially shorn of a nimbus he has had his entire life and realistically, Kate is next and Harry will likely lose his HRH as well. He isn't a resident of the UK and he is not at all doing anything but making a very public fool of himself.

And the royals having their titles yanked can choose to be open and expose some deceptions and hypocrisy behind the scenes, too. It's getting really ugly and may just backfire.

I don't care anymore. Harry is no saint and has done plenty of dirt and I hope after all of this, that others start losing that nimbus.

The real problem is a lack of regulation; there is no set rules on what is and is not an appropriate use of titles/styles and there are no real consequences.

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Jan 16, 2022 1:15:07 GMT kueifei said:

Jan 15, 2022 17:16:24 GMT Admin said:

And the royals having their titles yanked can choose to be open and expose some deceptions and hypocrisy behind the scenes, too. It's getting really ugly and may just backfire.

I don't care anymore. Harry is no saint and has done plenty of dirt and I hope after all of this, that others start losing that nimbus.

The real problem is a lack of regulation; there is no set rules on what is and is not an appropriate use of titles/styles and there are no real consequences.

I do - to have all the trouble-makers and hypocrites exposed. Personally, thinking now Harry deserves to lose it, but if his goes, William's has to. Why his is off-limits is beyond me.

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The "saviours" of the BRF - the Charles/William, etc, angle Jan 16, 2022 4:15:34 GMT

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Jan 16, 2022 1:50:43 GMT Admin said:

Jan 16, 2022 1:15:07 GMT kueifei said:

I don't care anymore. Harry is no saint and has done plenty of dirt and I hope after all of this, that others start losing that nimbus.

The real problem is a lack of regulation; there is no set rules on what is and is not an appropriate use of titles/styles and there are no real consequences.

I do - to have all the trouble-makers and hypocrites exposed. Personally, thinking now Harry deserves to lose it, but if his goes, William's has to. Why his is off-limits is beyond me.

I just can't get worked up over William anymore; when I read about his latest round of drama, it unfazes me since I really feel a clinical diffidence, I can't get worked up by him. I just wouldn't care if he dropped off of the face of the planet. Wiliam's alleged tr#ason can't be proven and he's already such a loss that I'm kind of as I said, experiencing clinical diffidence. I also think that William is a grade-A loser and for some reason, Harry's demand to be treated as a full time member of the firm is irritating. Harry claims he can't bring his children to the UK without police protection, then he should leave them behind and stop putting himself out there. Harry is for some reason setting me off with his demands to be treated as a fully working member. He (Harry) has his own mess.

Right now, Parliament will not act drastically since there is no precedent for stripping royals of their "HRH" mainly since it might start an out of control spiral that no one can predict. I admire the need for precedence and regrettably Andrew (along with the rest of the royal family) are creating unprecedented situations/circumstances that politicians have to figure out while dealing with a pandemic and dealing with a collapsed economy that will have to be rebuilt from scratch. I am also certain that while they know about William's tr#ason, politicians can't release that without risking full blown violence that will not be able to be contained or controlled. With Andrews' situation, things are going from bad to worse and I am certain that if they released the tr#ason involving William, it would become full blown disaster and the UK would become nonfunctional.

It will not be revealed until it can't be contained any longer and I am certain that it will have a nuclear effect on the UK in a way that will force change and there will NEVER be going back to 'before.' This pandemic has changed things significantly and I am certain that they will end up continuing to change. Not many want to go back to the pre-pandemic world and not many want to put up with the BS of leaders who are clearly lying. Until the 'treason' is exposed, I am certain that we can just chill and enjoy the downward spiral of this pathetically worthless family.

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www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1550852/Meghan-Markle-Prince-Harry-Megxit-Charles-William-influential-royal-family-news

Meghan and Harry's exit left Charles and William 'more influential than they've ever been'
MEGHAN MARKLE and Prince Harry's exit from the Royal Family has healed "traditional rivalries" and left Prince Charles and Prince William "more influential than they've ever been", royal commentators have said.
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12:53, Sun, Jan 16, 2022 | UPDATED: 14:46, Sun, Jan 16, 2022

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A fascinating documentary on Channel 4 some years ago. Sir Tony Robin son a respected historian researched the evidence that the true king lived in Australia and was an aristocrat who once lived in England.
It was something to do with the Plantagenet and another line and King Richard and that his son couldn’t have been conceived by him as he was away fighting. All the evidence I believe is in Rheims in France.
Real King of England dies in Australia – the true royal lineage which ...
These were a series of violent dynastic squabbles between two rival branches of the Plantagenet family – the houses of Lancaster and York (whose heraldic ...

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www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1551278/meghan-markle-prince-harry-exit-megxit-prince-william-prince-charles-relationship-news

Meghan Markle and Prince Harry's royal exit 'brought William and Charles closer'
MEGHAN MARKLE and Prince Harry's decision to quit as senior royals helped bring closer Prince William and Prince Charles, according to a royal expert.
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