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Post by Admin on Apr 25, 2022 4:12:36 GMT
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Post by Admin on Apr 25, 2022 4:14:48 GMT
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Post by Admin on Apr 25, 2022 4:17:38 GMT
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Post by kueifei on Nov 21, 2022 22:59:36 GMT
I sometimes think it would have been better if Victoria had married a member of the English or Scottish aristocracy. I 'get it' that the German branch had illustrious lineage, but the last thing that the royal family needed was more Germans. It's not like Albert was a good father to Bertie (heir) and I dislike how it's painted as some great love story when throughout much of the marriage, Albert supposedly moped about not being able to be named and crowned King while he mistreated the heir. Queen's Regnant should marry laid back supportive personalities and Albert by all accounts was not. I 'get it' that Victoria needed to be treated as a human, but saying 'woman' to a wife is an insult and it seems to 'keeping someone down to earth' is an excuse to verbally abuse or mistreat them. If Albert had been a genuinely loving father and loving husband, he would not have mistreated the heir and would not have even hinted about wanting to be granted titles like King or be crowned. It seems to me that the issues that Queens have is that they marry strong men, but not strong enough that they are okay with being second place. Prince Philip was the same, letting media ribbing get under his skin and HE KNEW that becoming King in any capacity was out of line. It's to prevent the reigning Queen from being usurped.
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Post by Admin on Jan 22, 2023 1:15:04 GMT
I sometimes think it would have been better if Victoria had married a member of the English or Scottish aristocracy. I 'get it' that the German branch had illustrious lineage, but the last thing that the royal family needed was more Germans. It's not like Albert was a good father to Bertie (heir) and I dislike how it's painted as some great love story when throughout much of the marriage, Albert supposedly moped about not being able to be named and crowned King while he mistreated the heir. Queen's Regnant should marry laid back supportive personalities and Albert by all accounts was not. I 'get it' that Victoria needed to be treated as a human, but saying 'woman' to a wife is an insult and it seems to 'keeping someone down to earth' is an excuse to verbally abuse or mistreat them. If Albert had been a genuinely loving father and loving husband, he would not have mistreated the heir and would not have even hinted about wanting to be granted titles like King or be crowned. It seems to me that the issues that Queens have is that they marry strong men, but not strong enough that they are okay with being second place. Prince Philip was the same, letting media ribbing get under his skin and HE KNEW that becoming King in any capacity was out of line. It's to prevent the reigning Queen from being usurped. Albert was a more loving and committed father than Victoria was as a mother - if anything, the Hanoverians NEEDED that influence from Albert's branch of the family. The Gotha branch especially - Albert's maternal grandfather was beyond his time with this progressive views and reign. We have Charles marrying a Spencer, and we all see how that panned out. Albert gets a sometimes bad rap and I don't understand why. He was very committed to ensuring his children had a childhood that was actually robbed from himself. (his mother was taken from him at the age of 5) It wasn't a great love story in the sense that with time, Victoria became harder to live with and somewhat of a tyrant at times, but I never fully bought how their relationship was betrayed. No man, I'm sure, would be happy being a "lesser" being, especially in his own message. Victoria was no more royal than Albert, as Elizabeth was no more royal (probably less, actually?) than Philip. Both men, actually, shined as Consorts and were needed. I really think had Albert lived longer, he would have had more impact on British society, what with much needed social reforms. |
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Post by Admin on Jan 22, 2023 1:15:35 GMT
Aside: I weep when I read posts like this. From a historical perspective.
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Post by kueifei on Aug 26, 2023 0:54:31 GMT
I think Queen Victoria suffered badly from PTSD due to the situation of her upbringing. She was alienated from her peers, subjected to nonstop abusive harassment and abuse at the hands of her own mother and her mother's lover. Albert was her lifeline and I can't judge Victoria for having serious mental problems as a result of her messed up, deformed mind because of her psychotic circumstances in which she was living.
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Post by Admin on Aug 26, 2023 1:30:54 GMT
I think Queen Victoria suffered badly from PTSD due to the situation of her upbringing. She was alienated from her peers, subjected to nonstop abusive harassment and abuse at the hands of her own mother and her mother's lover. Albert was her lifeline and I can't judge Victoria for having serious mental problems as a result of her messed up, deformed mind because of her psychotic circumstances in which she was living. Prince Albert's mother was driven away from him after his 5th birthday - literally the person I will be researching further on my travels. Interesting you should bring them up now. Both Victoria and Albert, from the circumstances of their childhoods, suffered greatly. I may write more later, just now trying to relax a bit. |
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Post by Admin on Aug 26, 2023 1:31:46 GMT
August von Sachsen-Gotha-Altenburg, Prince Albert's grandfather. Royal eccentric, pacifist and feminist. Man was brilliant and far beyond his own time.  |
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Post by sanka on Aug 26, 2023 6:12:48 GMT
I think Queen Victoria suffered badly from PTSD due to the situation of her upbringing. She was alienated from her peers, subjected to nonstop abusive harassment and abuse at the hands of her own mother and her mother's lover. Albert was her lifeline and I can't judge Victoria for having serious mental problems as a result of her messed up, deformed mind because of her psychotic circumstances in which she was living. Prince Albert's mother was driven away from him after his 5th birthday - literally the person I will be researching further on my travels. Interesting you should bring them up now. Both Victoria and Albert, from the circumstances of their childhoods, suffered greatly. I may write more later, just now trying to relax a bit. Admin - I am looking forward to hearing about your research and your insights after your relaxation break  |
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Post by Admin on Aug 26, 2023 13:26:49 GMT
Prince Albert's mother was driven away from him after his 5th birthday - literally the person I will be researching further on my travels. Interesting you should bring them up now. Both Victoria and Albert, from the circumstances of their childhoods, suffered greatly. I may write more later, just now trying to relax a bit. Admin - I am looking forward to hearing about your research and your insights after your relaxation break I will definitely be sharing - going back to some old locations, new locations, archives and libraries and I LOVE to share. Well, maybe not ALL secrets but I can provide tidbits to any registered posters who are interested. Can PM me at any time. Best regards and I will be checking in from time to time. Admin The Exhausted |
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Post by kueifei on Nov 3, 2023 6:20:31 GMT
I think it was a mistake for Victoria to raise her children in such an isolated way. Her children were pretty unsophisticated, and it is clear to me that royal children really need to see and do more than just go to bars or stay living in sincere isolation. I think she did start the trend of raising royalty in ways that are not good for them to develop a long and broader view.
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