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Post by kueifei on Aug 26, 2020 20:07:22 GMT
The basic problem many think was that Kate and others were intensely jealous of Megs and Harry. They were becoming the stars of the Royal Family and undoubtedly outshining dull Willy and nothing going for her Kate. I am sorry they didn’t stay particularly as Kate is way out of her depth in all situations. This jealousy would have been reflected in the behaviour to Megs and Harry who naturally felt undervalued and uncomfortable. The promised book should be interesting. Meg WAS outshining Kate. She was working more, she was newer on the scene, and she did have an amazing effect by being able to just land headlines after headlines and she was doing her part. Multiple projects, did good promotional work, and she got more new clothes her first year because she was WORKING more her first year. Kate was jealous mainly since she wanted Harry all to herself or with her sister, not living his own life.
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Post by Admin on Aug 27, 2020 2:09:58 GMT
www.foxnews.com/entertainment/prince-harry-prince-william-relationship-royal-exit-finding-freedom-true-royalty-tvPrince Harry, Prince William are enduring fractures in their relationship after royal exit: Documentary "True Royalty TV has recently released a special titled “The Royal Beat: Finding Freedom” which analyzes the recent bombshell book titled "Finding Freedom" written by royal reporters Omid Scobie and Carolyn Durand that has rocked Buckingham Palace. Numerous palace insiders came forward to the two journalists and detailed what led to Prince Harry and his wife Meghan Markle's departure as senior members of the British royal family. The family resides in the former American actress’ native California with their 1-year-old son Archie. Host Kate Thornton, who sat down with Scobie for the special, told Fox News that the documentary aims to give the Duke and Duchess of Sussex a voice after it had been silenced by ruthless U.K. tabloids."
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Post by kueifei on Aug 27, 2020 2:23:37 GMT
If William would for once STOP using his brother to benefit, maybe Harry wouldn't be compelled to lash out. Harry should be living a quieter life for the moment, but I don't blame Harry for being fed up with being treated as if he just walked out of the BRF right before the Blitz. Even after he's left, there has been a flurry of articles bashing Harry and Meg and it's only natural to want to push back and defend himself. If just for once William would stop hurting his brother, maybe Harry would in fact end up being quieter.
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Post by india on Aug 27, 2020 14:09:45 GMT
Willy Boy won't ever stop that. He is a mean bully who has been picking on Harry all of his life.
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Post by kueifei on Aug 27, 2020 16:04:15 GMT
He just can't quit can he? You know, it is a shame that William gets off on using Harry as a whipping post and it is clear that both are in fact going to go at each other at some point. To keep putting up a front of piety while the committing his own brand of treason goes to show that William is unable and unwilling to adapt to the realities of any given situation he is in or creates for himself/others. It will be fascinating to see how William handles the coming year when the full effect of Harry's exit sets in.
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Post by Admin on Oct 17, 2020 17:09:11 GMT
I am placing this item here, may be a duplicate, but if so, no biggie. www.celebitchy.com/684379/robert_lacey_somebody_in_the_palace_hated_meghan_the_feeling_is_mutual/Robert Lacey: ‘Somebody in the palace… hated Meghan’ & ‘the feeling is mutual’ October 12, 2020 By Kaiser Meghan Markle, Prince Harry, Prince William He’s getting hate mail from furious Prince William fans. “There is such anger that the book has dared to suggest Prince William is not perfect… Portraits of William are always so idealised because he is our future king. Charles III and Queen Camilla is not an appealing prospect, but there is William and his wonderful wife — and that’s what everybody has their hopes set on.” Lacey now believes the rift is even more serious than reports have claimed. Lacey suggests, among other things, that William has a formidable temper and that — perhaps more wounding — he has gained his reputation for steadiness and sense of duty at the expense of his younger brother. Yet this was not the book he had been hoping to write. The heir and the spare he originally had in mind were Charles and Prince Andrew, but he dropped that plan after talking to his friend Peter Morgan, the writer of The Crown, who bluntly advised: “They aren’t the princes that matter any more.” For years, William has emerged unscathed while Harry is smeared: “This [their Eton days] was the beginning of the relentless popular media stereotyping that would eventually drive Prince Harry out of Britain. The other face of that stereotype was, of course, the impeccable image of his perfect elder brother, golden boy Prince William.” Sigh, Meghan as “Wallis Simpson”: It is Harry’s marriage — to a woman the author describes, with Wallis Simpson in mind, as “the second American divorcee to screw up the monarchy” — that has proved particularly divisive. “The palace expected Harry to marry a nice girl called Annabel or Henrietta and to go and live in the country. They didn’t expect this bombshell.” Someone in the palace hated Meghan: Presented with the opinionated and outspoken Meghan Markle, the palace didn’t know what to do. “There was personal animosity in the palace towards Meghan — and the feeling is mutual,” says Lacey. “There was somebody in the palace — and I can’t name them — who hated Meghan. There is no love lost there.” This revelation was removed from the book on legal advice. The courtiers were initially more concerned with Prince Andrew’s situation: Palace officials complained that talking to Meghan and Harry was like dealing with a hard-nosed Hollywood lawyer, although Lacey suggests the attention of courtiers might have been elsewhere: “One of the reasons things went wrong over Christmas and new year was that the palace was so preoccupied with the Andrew problem, they didn’t see the Harry problem coming.” Whether William & Harry will reconcile: Lacey doesn’t expect any reconciliation: “I was optimistic, but I’ve become less so. It’s rather worrying that Buckingham Palace is taking William’s side against Harry. The problem with the royal family is that it doesn’t know how to do ‘woke’. Woke is not going to go away. It’s here to stay, and Meghan is the very embodiment of it.” ************* Oh, we have always known what the real problem was, and Meghan, actually, isn't it. Never was, actually. Problems started YEARS earlier, and we (members of RG both current and former site) expressed it many, many times over. It's not about Woke Meghan, poor Harry vs the grey men, the so-called perfect prince William (!), etc.
Respect for what Lacey brought up, but he STILL needs to go much, much, MUCH further. I think he very well knows WHO the real troublemaker(s) are, but is restricted from revealing.
After the truth is eventually revealed, OPENLY, neither of these princes are going to be the ones "that matter". The fact they "matter" now is quite frankly, shameful, pathetic and embarrassing.
You read it here.
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Post by Admin on Oct 17, 2020 17:28:07 GMT
I really wish some of these posters, oh heck, ALL, come on over here for some chit-chat. Really liking how blunt they can be.
Sofia says: October 12, 2020 at 8:10 am “There was somebody in the palace — and I can’t name them — who hated Meghan. There is no love lost there.” William. Just say William (although it says he can’t).
No matter who Harry married, she was always going to have a tough time in the press against Kate because Kate is married to the heir. However, Meghan didn’t make that /easier/ because she had a work ethic and was charismatic. That does not make the “Kate is better than Harry’s wife” comparisons the palace were banking on, easy because people with sense can see that Meghan was proving to be more popular than Kate.
Reply Becks1 says: October 12, 2020 at 8:21 am Also, had he married an aristo, she would Have had the respect of the aristos and that prob would have protected her in the press somewhat. I’m going to go with Rose H as an example bc she’s the only name I know lol, but if Harry had married someone like her – someone respected by the nobility, with connections and friends in the aristo class, part of the aristo class herself – yes, Kate and william would have tried to establish themselves as the Better royal couple, but I think a lot of the tabloid stories would have been very different. We saw when happened when Kate did try to shun the actual Rose H. Imagine Kate trying to shun a Rose-esque person who was married to a prince.
Now to be clear I am not saying that Harry’s wife would have EVER had it easy, but the nature of the attacks would have been VERY different IMO.
Reply Sofia says: October 12, 2020 at 8:46 am Of course. I agree and that’s what I was trying to say but you said it much better. No matter who he had married, they would have gotten the short end of the stick in the tabloid press but it was much WORSE because he married Meghan.
I also think had he married a white actress from America rather than a biracial actress, her treatment would have been a lot better too.
notasugarhere says: October 12, 2020 at 10:11 am Another example. If Harry had married Tom van Stawberry’s ex, divorced Lady Melissa Percy? For one, there wouldn’t have been ANY public questioning about whether or not they could marry in a church.
Edit, posted before I saw Kalana’s post below.
Lemons says: October 12, 2020 at 10:23 am An aristo-wife would have had royal clout that Kate never had and only had because the tabloids needed an English rose foil to Meghan’s Black divorcee Hollywood schtick they created.
I also think that William would have seen Harry’s wife as a possible candidate for royal mistress (gross, right?) But he seems like the type of guy who is constantly finding new ways to dominate his relationships. William would have played softball if Harry had an aristo-wife. Meghan is very in love with Harry, knows the game William plays from miles away and would probably shut down any flirtatious notions William may have thrown her way.
notasugarhere says: October 12, 2020 at 11:03 am Lemons, there is a photo from one event with the four of them. William is staring at Meghan’s chest while licking his lips. Meghan looks afraid. Harry is standing behind them furious. Kate is in front of them all, RBF in place.
Em says: October 12, 2020 at 1:01 pm I’ve felt from the start that being American has been a huge barrier for Meghan and found it really interesting that this book mentioned the surge in applications from American women, when William formally announced the university he was attending. I really don’t think that the average Brit is anti American at all but I do think that the Royals and aristocracy are. I honestly do wonder how different the approach would have been had this been a black British woman rather than American. Suddenly maybe we would have seen that the Royals can do woke after all?
ArtHistorian says: October 12, 2020 at 1:24 pm Any non-Brit would have faced a rough time in the press. The Brits are quite insular at best and xenophobic at worst. Meghan being biracial made everything worse but the audience who were against her based on her race would have been against any non-British royal bride.
Lauren says: October 12, 2020 at 4:41 pm The anti-Americanism from the aristos doesn’t make sense to me considering how many married American women married into the British aristocracy in the last 150 years or so (especially late 1800s, early 1900s). Lots of poor aristos married American heiresses to shore up dwindling finances and failing estates, or give some wealth to a younger son. Downton Abbey’s Countess of Grantham was based on this trend.
I think it attacking Meghan as an American was just a stand in for attacking her as a black woman, because they couldn’t come out and make reference to her race without showing their hands.
Eleonora says: October 13, 2020 at 6:19 am @lauren, that might be part of it. They were dependent on American heiresses for money, which was probably not something they like/liked to admit, so they turn up their noses.
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Post by kueifei on Oct 19, 2020 22:13:33 GMT
One thing I do remember reading is how Meg would call her office staff at the early morning hours with 'new ideas' and I think that was out of line. You don't call up someone at five in the morning with your latest brainy idea and expect them to be alert and enthusiastic about it and write it down. I think Meg does kind of lack a sense of timeline and a lack of consideration for other people's schedule that they have of their own. She had no business thinking that she could snap her fingers have have a tiara brought up as if it's just a costume prop in storage and it is clear that she had issues realizing that office staff prefer to get a full night's sleep rather than take her calls. In fact, they have a right to a full night's sleep.
I also think it was how they look down on Americans; I do not believe it was solely because of her black skin. As for Cressida or Chelsy, neither would have been protected. Neither would have been able to get protection since that system is geared towards leaving the wife of the spares out to dry. There is no way that either would have escaped abuse in the press or inside the palaces themselves.
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Post by Admin on Oct 23, 2020 21:59:04 GMT
www.celebitchy.com/686142/robert_lacey_the_cambridges_dont_actually_want_to_reconcile_with_the_sussexes/Robert Lacey: The Cambridges don’t actually want to reconcile with the Sussexes October 23, 2020 By Kaiser Kate Middleton, Meghan Markle, Prince Harry, Prince William, Royals The Cambridges don’t want to reconcile with the Sussexes: “I used to be optimistic of some sort of reconciliation. I am less so now. I am actually coming to feel that it actually suits William and Kate quite well to have Harry and Meghan off the territory. You know it’s the old, ‘This town is too small for both of us’ syndrome. William and Kate are determinedly stepping into the void that Harry has left.” The Queen screwed it up too: Lacey tells me, for example, that he finds it “absolutely astonishing” that photos of the Sussexes were not prominently displayed on the royal desk for the 2019 Christmas broadcast. “They were there the year before. But in 2019, the Queen could not even bring herself to say their name. The word Sussex never crossed her lips in her Christmas broadcast. She couldn’t even bring herself to say Archie’s name. She just referred to the arrival of her “eighth great-grandchild,” and moved on. “They’re victims of many things, these boys, but certainly Harry is a victim of the royal system,” said Lacey. William & Kate immediately felt jealous of & competitive with Meghan: “Everything was going well with the magic threesome of William and Kate and Harry, with Harry playing the subordinate backup role, and then along comes Meghan. She made Harry realize the reality of this subordinate role. Then they become the royal superstars, the royal rock stars, and the Fab Four rapidly disintegrates under the pressure of the competition for celebrity and attention and affection that Harry and Meghan create. William’s possible jealousy has never been voiced, but Ken Wharfe (Diana’s personal protection officer), for example, told me he always got the feeling that William had a jealousy of the lovable rogue affection that Harry generated.” Harry has always been the bigger man: “I thought it was interesting that when Harry effectively disclosed the feud to (ITV broadcaster) Tom Bradby he followed it up, almost immediately, by saying: ‘But look, we’re brothers, we’ll always be brothers. And we’re certainly on different paths at the moment, but I’ll always be there for him, as I know he’ll always be there for me.’ I’m not aware of William ever publicly saying anything like that.” Meghan made Harry a better man, and William hated that: “I don’t think anybody can dispute that Meghan at least crystallized the ideas and the discontents that he already had. She has really transformed Harry. I mean, whatever you think of the pair of them, sitting there speaking to the world about global issues of sustainability or social justice, it’s definitely not the dunce, bottom-of-the-class Harry, any longer, and I think this is another aspect that has discomforted his elder brother.” How bad do the Windsors look in the wake of the Sussexit: “Very bad,” said Lacey. “They’ve effectively expelled two mixed race individuals. So I don’t think it’s surprising that, Barbados is saying, ‘Thank you very much, we don’t want a white Head of State anymore,’ and Jamaica looks to be going the same way. The Windsors so far have not been able to do ‘Woke’, and when I’ve said that, I get floods of emails from people who say, ‘Woke is finished.’ Well, I don’t agree. I do not think Woke is finished. I think Woke is the gospel of the rising generation and this couple articulated it and will go on articulating it. Harry and Meghan are united in programs of self-realization—and to hell with any blood institution that gets in the way.” The one-year review: “The people who will judge the success of the arrangement are the Queen, Charles and William. There’s no mention of Harry even being involved in that. So the royal family have a decision to make; are Harry and Meghan in or out? If they’re out they then become ex-royals and to be an ex-royal puts them in the same category then as the Windsors (the Duke of Windsor and Wallis Simpson)—except unlike the Windsors, they’re not going to shut up. The Duke of Windsor did shut up. He produced his memoirs and went into quiet oblivion. This couple are not going quietly. They will not shut up. They are not going away.”
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Post by kueifei on Oct 24, 2020 0:54:31 GMT
They are not under any obligation to 'go away.' Where do they go? They are public fixtures and they are certainly not required to cease to exist. No one has any business expecting them to stop living a full life. It's sickening how they are supposed to disappear like they're being subjected to the Stalinist system of elimination.
If both had been made reps of the Crown for Barbados and Jamaica, required ot live there, it would have solved a lot of problems and quite honestly, it would have given Harry and Meg a shot at shining. I am amazed at how Robert Lacey is really coming out with all of this and I am amazed at how anti-William a lot of this is.
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Post by Admin on Oct 24, 2020 12:52:12 GMT
They are not under any obligation to 'go away.' Where do they go? They are public fixtures and they are certainly not required to cease to exist. No one has any business expecting them to stop living a full life. It's sickening how they are supposed to disappear like they're being subjected to the Stalinist system of elimination. If both had been made reps of the Crown for Barbados and Jamaica, required ot live there, it would have solved a lot of problems and quite honestly, it would have given Harry and Meg a shot at shining. I am amazed at how Robert Lacey is really coming out with all of this and I am amazed at how anti-William a lot of this is.
I have been amazed, too, about all he is getting out there and think he could go even further, but still, great that he is getting this out there. Saw a comment on Twitter about a sugar bashing RL as a fake historian and/or hack, but cannot find it.
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Post by Admin on Oct 24, 2020 14:14:00 GMT
www.celebitchy.com/686142/robert_lacey_the_cambridges_dont_actually_want_to_reconcile_with_the_sussexes/Continuing...with some juicy comments. Get a nice cuppa and sit around for these ones, folks! Kitty1224 says: October 23, 2020 at 9:27 am The irony because the Cambridge’s need Harry. The monarchy needs him. They keep going down down down. Reply StartupSpouse says: October 23, 2020 at 9:32 am And he doesn’t need them. At all. Ever again. Reply Mumbles says: October 23, 2020 at 9:59 am Times have changed. ER II has essentially kept this out of date institution alive, based on the affection the older Britons had about her sharing common hard times – the War, the post-War rationing (she made a point of using ration cards for her wedding dress and reception….can you imagine anyone of the next two generations of her family doing likewise)? Plus she maintained an appointments calendar that rivals her grandchildren well into her 90s. Charles may be able to hold off the changes, but I can’t imagine why the UK would want a monarchy led by William and Kate. Utter lack of interest in work, and immersion in the world of country homes and school chums with multi-hyphenate names and eccentric family histories who similarly don’t work beyond a figurehead/do nothing job in a family firm. Are Britons of their generation going to want to continue that do-nothing snobbery? As Lacey has said, the Sussexes represented a more modern face to the RF and William was too thick to realize he that the institution could reap the good will and PR. Now THAT is dumb. Kalana says: October 23, 2020 at 9:27 am Lacey is making it easier for other people to begin talking about this. People who will be able to do a better job of it. Harry was no longer a dunce and that discomforted William. I mean… What do you even do with that? Has William ever been happy for his brother? And yes, Cambridge jealousy and pettiness emboldened the racism we watched play out and that will not go away easily. Also, what even is the point of the review? Are they going to use his military honors to force Harry back in while leaving out Meghan? Reply Becks1 says: October 23, 2020 at 9:52 am Yeah this interview is interesting to me because he is coming out and saying what a lot of us have speculated for years – William’s jealousy, the competition the Cambridges felt towards the Sussexes, how William has not publicly offered support to his brother in the past year (rather saying “I cant put my arm around him anymore.”) He’s not saying this in the book (at least not in the parts I’ve read so far) so I wonder if he was a lot more careful in the book for legal reasons? The fact that this interview is with Tom Sykes is interesting to me too, wonder if Lacey felt more comfortable talking to him? Reply Ginger says: October 23, 2020 at 10:01 am I feel like him and Omid say more in their interviews than in their books. Probably because of legal reasons. Someone that has read the book said he bashes the Sussex’s and praises the Cambridge’s ( especially during the exit) they say Lacey justifies William’s anger and jealousy. But in interviews he is more on Harry’s side. It’s confusing Becks1 says: October 23, 2020 at 10:08 am I have about a hundred pages to go in this book, and like I said yesterday, its interesting because I feel like there is just a lot left unsaid. It definitely makes me think he removed a lot for legal reasons (or knew just to not talk about it at all), maybe its easier to come out and say it in the interviews?
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Post by Admin on Oct 24, 2020 14:17:00 GMT
More comments:
booboocita says: October 23, 2020 at 11:56 am “Harry was no longer a dunce and that discomforted William.”
Harry never WAS a dunce. “Dunce,” “Hash Harry,” Good-times-but-not-too-bright Harry — those were all roles in which he was cast, not roles he sought out for himself. Meghan didn’t wave a magic wand and make him suddenly intelligent and aware. She just helped him realize and bring out his best self, something that’s entirely within the power of a loving and loyal spouse. I wonder if anyone in that weird, dysfunctional family understands or even recognizes what a good life partner can do for someone.
Reply Nic919 says: October 23, 2020 at 12:58 pm When a Harry set up sentebale and then later the invictus Games, it was obvious he had the ability to be more than the party boy the media wanted him to be. William still hasn’t done anything close to that, but he gets credit for slapping his name on things.
starryfish29 says: October 23, 2020 at 8:31 pm Exactly this. They were both heavy partiers in their younger years but as the heir, William got protected and Harry took the fall. But to anyone who paid even the slightest bit of attention, you could tell that the realities of their work weren’t reflected in the narrative. Harry had established two major initiatives by the time he was 25, yet to this day Williams still doesn’t have an initiative that he’s built from the ground up, he just flits from one thing to the next and tries to tack his name onto other people’s work. Charles has the Prince’s Trust, Harry has Sentebale & Invictus, what long running project does William have? Don’t say Heads Together because that’s just a name slapped onto the work of other organisations. The Cambridges biggest problem is that Harry stopped being their footstool, that his wife was smart & capable was just the final straw. Now they’ve got what they wished for but I don’t think it’s going to be what they actually wanted.
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Post by Admin on Oct 24, 2020 14:18:17 GMT
And more CB comments...
Elizabeth Regina says: October 23, 2020 at 11:14 am I think the Cams are too petty to show a united front. Remember the Christmas walk when Meghan got scarfed? Or the Commonwealth service where Kate and Sophie mean girled despite the world watching? They got the exit they wanted and it’s backfired spectacularly on the House of Windsor.
Reply notasugarhere says: October 23, 2020 at 11:47 am W&K cannot even show a united front as their own unit. The pap walk with Rose was for Rose’s benefit, not Kate’s. There’s too many years and examples of William vs. Middleton PR, which have increased in the past few years. Kate and Carole know William is tiring of the arrangement.
CC says: October 23, 2020 at 12:48 pm Kate and Meghan did put on a believable show at Christmas while the brothers ignored each other (the Christmas walk where Meghan put a hand on Kate’s back). I think they’re the better actors of the fab 4 LOL
Honestly I wish someone could just spill eeeeveryrhing. I’m tired of implied language. Someone with nothing to lose needs to say fk it, I’m telling everything!
Harper says: October 23, 2020 at 12:51 pm That pap walk with Rose was the Sunday before Harry and Meghan dropped their bombshell that they wanted half-in half-out. Will knew that news was going to spill in a few days, and I think he staged that walk with Rose because he knew H&M’s news would overshadow EVERYTHING in the upcoming days. I thought the whole walk was very odd but we never got to really micro-analyze it because the Sussexit news took over
notasugarhere says: October 23, 2020 at 1:06 pm Harry and Meghan published their plan to leave only AFTER William sold them out to deflect attention from his Rose gardening. I think he was covering all bases, making it look like they’re all good friends – W&K and the Rocksavages. He had to deflect from the affair on multiple fronts.
Nic919 says: October 23, 2020 at 1:10 pm Ross didn’t look thrilled doing that walk whereas W and K were grinning like Cheshire cats. I think the origins of the Tatler article stemmed from there with many toffs wanting to place those two in their place.
Beach Dreams says: October 23, 2020 at 1:23 pm Yeah, I remember that a lot of the Cambridge sympathizers were insisting that the affair couldn’t have happened because of that walk…while ignoring the fact that similar stunts were pulled with Diana and Camilla. It was certainly good timing on Will’s part.
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Post by Admin on Oct 24, 2020 14:21:15 GMT
This!
JT says: October 23, 2020 at 9:37 am His comments on the review are stupid. H&M are already out, they are the ones who wanted to leave. They are already ex-royals. Harry didn’t even want the review. The RF have absolutely no control over the decision and people need to stop framing it like it is theirs to decide. The comparisons to the windsors are stupid as well. The Sussex’s have a $150 million dollar deal with Netflix; they aren’t hurting for money and they aren’t going to languish like the others. And finally W&K are not enough to carry the monarchy; they never have been, which is why an entire country’s worth of media have to sell it like they are. They are too damn lazy, short-sighted, and dim to realize that they aren’t.
Reply S808 says: October 23, 2020 at 9:51 am “W&K are not enough to carry the monarchy; they never have been”
What kills me is that they could’ve been! W&K killed their own spotlight before Harry even met Meghan. They didn’t want to work. They played middle class family in Norfolk for years. How Charles is not frustrated with them is beyond me. He had great assets in H&M and the 2 that sat on their asses for years only got up to push them out and now they’re STILL not doing as much work as they could. It’s just incredibly childish to me. They created that void and were PISSED when another couple inevitably filled it.
Reply JT says: October 23, 2020 at 10:00 am You’re exactly right. They had a good 7-8 years of the spotlight to carve out they’re plans and work to endear themselves to the public. People loved Diana partly because she was in their faces working all of them time. The had plenty of time to establish themselves but they wasted it and were mad the Meg slid right in there and filled the void. Global statesman my a##.
MaryContrary says: October 23, 2020 at 10:35 am Exactly. Dear god-it’s not that difficult. They didn’t have to recreate the wheel. They could have just stepped into the ready made roles of visiting established charities, cutting ribbons, meeting with people. Done their 25 hours a week with smiles on their faces and that would have been just fine. Kate could have focused on sports and kids. They could still be living their aristocratic dream of vacations and shooting with friends on the side. The fact that they dithered and avoided for years and years-completely enabled by the Queen and Charles (who have never wanted to set off William’s “moods”) is ridiculous.
Elizabeth Regina says: October 23, 2020 at 11:15 am Spot on!
Merricat says: October 23, 2020 at 11:15 am All of this.
Amy Too says: October 23, 2020 at 11:31 am Lacey mentions that void that was left when Harry moved away, too. And that’s so stupid and avoidable. Why on earth was a monarchy that has an active Queen, a prince of Wales, a second heir and his young and pretty wife relying on the sixth in line so heavily? There might be a problem with the FAMILY if the only Royal who was able to connect with and be liked by the public is the sixth in line.
And it bugs me so much that will and Kate could’ve built up so much goodwill and a legacy in the time before Harry married Meghan but they just didn’t. Their own laziness and petulant ways, their refusal to work and connect with people, is what forced this whole Duchess v Duchess, Duke v Duke feud thing in the first place. The Cambridge’s didn’t start working “full time” until Harry and Meghan came on the scene, so they forced the issue of both couples being in the exact same, directly comparable place in their careers at the same time, fighting for the same fans and popularity at the same time. This would’ve worked out much better for them if they were already established royals with their own projects and their own fans that they had accrued over the last 8 years. But no. They wanted to stay home and be petulant and spurn their duties so that they and Harry and Meghan were all in direct competition for the same press, the same people to be their fans, the same projects, etc. And it’s all their fault! And they could have avoided it.
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Post by kueifei on Oct 26, 2020 22:41:58 GMT
Immaturity; it used to be that the more at the top you were, the more you were supposed to be shouldering. Then you were supposed to marry the best and cultivate yourself and be the best as much as you can and really make a significant mark. NOT something like this. As sixth, Harry was supposed to be freer and more protected, not hung out to dry and shouldering everything while everyone else gets the credit.
William and Kate simply cannot think or act long term. WK likely thought they could choose someone and bully Harry into marrying someone they thought they would be able to control and domineer over and I also believe that neither WK didn't realize that the press covered Meg more since Meg was working more. It's not like Meg sat around and she wouldn't get away with it.
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Post by india on Oct 27, 2020 17:04:29 GMT
So glad Harry and Meghan are out and away from the control of his jealous mean brother and vile wife.
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Post by Admin on Oct 27, 2020 17:48:53 GMT
I wonder what is going to happen next with this quartet - who will up the ante, so to speak, or what PR move is going to be made?
Any ideas, folks?
Things seem a little quiet for the present moment...
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Post by india on Oct 27, 2020 22:03:53 GMT
Things never stay quiet for long with the shyte show that is the BRF.
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Post by kueifei on Oct 27, 2020 22:11:48 GMT
Amazing how the epitome of stability and continuity has become a BS soap opera that never ends. Who knows what mess the next year will bring. There is no way that it will be a quiet year with this family.
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