Royal Gossip 2011 Archive: Supportive Prince shuns Royals

Title: Supportive Prince shuns Royals for a lunch with Kate Middleton
Post by: Mia on April 25, 2011, 01:02:37 am
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THE rules for royal brides could be changed after Prince William spent his final weekend as a single man with his fiancee’s family.

While the Queen and other members of the Royal Family went to church at Windsor Castle yesterday, the second-in-line to the throne was with Kate Middleton’s family in Berkshire.

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Title: Re: Supportive Prince shuns Royals for a lunch with Kate Middleton
Post by: berlin on April 25, 2011, 01:25:28 am
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I really have no problem with this. Prince Charles actually started this precedent so I don't think William can be blamed here. This is just more reasonable.

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Title: Re: Supportive Prince shuns Royals for a lunch with Kate Middleton
Post by: Kezza on April 25, 2011, 01:36:29 am
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The headline makes it sound like the rest of the Royals are against Kate. :sigh:

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Title: Re: Supportive Prince shuns Royals for a lunch with Kate Middleton
Post by: Mia on April 25, 2011, 01:37:13 am
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My thoughts exactly... :James:

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Title: Re: Supportive Prince shuns Royals for a lunch with Kate Middleton
Post by: benign on April 25, 2011, 01:59:14 am
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oh wells, its going to be Diana part 2, Kate, PW and Midds against the Windsors...

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Title: Re: Supportive Prince shuns Royals for a lunch with Kate Middleton
Post by: Mia on April 25, 2011, 02:05:42 am
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And the sad part is that Wills is a major factor on that, imo...

He and Kate can spend time with her family without missing important acts with RF. Kate was never religious and all of the sudden she's attending Easter service on church... Easter never seemed important to her or her family, until now...

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Title: Re: Supportive Prince shuns Royals for a lunch with Kate Middleton
Post by: Lieblich on April 25, 2011, 02:08:54 am
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God save King Harry.

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Title: Re: Supportive Prince shuns Royals for a lunch with Kate Middleton
Post by: Raisie on April 25, 2011, 02:10:57 am
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I am the only person who see that the Midds are trying to destroy the Monarchy?

So far we haven't see any pictures but only rumours and an amazing headline,the Royals were seen without Charles,Camilla,Zara,William and Harry among some others and few minutes after we hear this tweets.

We knew that Kate was to have easter with her family and that William wasn't seen with them looks like gave them the oportunity.Why the tweets wasn't at the same time that we saw pictures of the Royals? something is odd here if someone ask me and i feel the Midds are behind this.

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Title: Re: Supportive Prince shuns Royals for a lunch with Kate Middleton
Post by: benign on April 25, 2011, 02:12:03 am
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Quote from: Mia on April 25, 2011, 02:05:42 am
And the sad part is that Wills is a major factor on that, imo...
He and Kate can spend time with her family without missing important acts with RF. Kate was never religious and all of the sudden she's attending Easter service on church... Easter never seemed important to her or her family, until now...
i totally agree...These two are so full of themselves when they have nothing to show for or just plain dumb even though they apparently have two functioning brains.. whatever PW's end game, hope is worth it coz sometimes, the best things you have are the ones you miss the most...
Quote from: Raisie on April 25, 2011, 02:10:57 am
I am the only person who see that the Midds are trying to destroy the Monarchy?
with the help PW :sigh:

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Title: Re: Supportive Prince shuns Royals for a lunch with Kate Middleton
Post by: Kuei Fei on April 25, 2011, 06:02:20 am
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Quote from: Kezza on April 25, 2011, 01:36:29 am
The headline makes it sound like the rest of the Royals are against Kate.

I'm sure the royals are and hate her guts; this time last year they were really coming together and things were evening out. Now, go figure, William smashed it to bits nad the RF is now scattered. I am sure that Charles and Harry and William would all be there, if not for the fact that William wants it both ways, a loving family and having Kate be included in the pomp and circumstance, despite her actions. Charles is getting bashed, Harry is getting bashed, Sophie got nailed this week and it's all a mess again.
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Kate was never religious and all of the sudden she's attending Easter service on church... Easter never seemed important to her or her family, until now...

Kate nad her family want to attend, as a part of the royal/gentry set. Like if you will, she and her family want to be the parish posh set, not as a normal village family. It's not like she and her family want religion as a part of thier inner faith, but to be part of their social life, climbing; having the parish priest and his wife fawning over them and being deferential, like say, as if the Midds were the Crawleys. Now Kate and Co. get to dress up in silk frocks and hats and she can wave her ring around to all while Carole looks down her nose at the rest of the congregation.

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Title: Re: Supportive Prince shuns Royals for a lunch with Kate Middleton
Post by: June on April 25, 2011, 06:22:51 am
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Quote from: Raisie on April 25, 2011, 02:10:57 am
I am the only person who see that the Midds are trying to destroy the Monarchy?

So far we haven't see any pictures but only rumours and an amazing headline,the Royals were seen without Charles,Camilla,Zara,William and Harry among some others and few minutes after we hear this tweets.

We knew that Kate was to have easter with her family and that William wasn't seen with them looks like gave them the oportunity.Why the tweets wasn't at the same time that we saw pictures of the Royals? something is odd here if someone ask me and i feel the Midds are behind this.

They don't have such power - and they are really only grabbing all the headlines because of the wedding.

The BRF is destroying itself, headed by HM for her failure to act, IMO; in particular, allowing Gary Goldsmith into Buckingham Palace. The BRF has NEVER sunk any lower IMO.

KF: if the royals 'hate her guts' she wouldn't be marrying William (see my above paragraph). He's too important to the future of the monarchy; he's not Peter Phillips, who would pretty much marry who he pleased. Amber is alright, nothing special, but I think all these commoners are social climbers, simply by reason that it isn't so easy to get into the company of such people. But that is just cynical me. :June:

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Title: Re: Supportive Prince shuns Royals for a lunch with Kate Middleton
Post by: Kuei Fei on April 25, 2011, 06:33:38 am
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if the royals 'hate her guts' she wouldn't be marrying William (see my above paragraph). He's too important to the future of the monarchy; he's not Peter Phillips, who would pretty much marry who he pleased

William blindsided the Palace with the announcement; if the family had known and approved, they would have all been there, standing, posing with Kate, and also all there as a unified family. If HM had approved, she would have been in the next room waving them in, not in another location and I think that the Palace would have also NOT denied it just recently. Before, the Palace was denying and Nichols and Brown were looking like total idiots and so was Kate. Charles would not have been on an engagement and the rest of the RF scattered. There would have been a wedding 'plan of action in place' and I am sure that things would not have been as much of a mess as they are now. Invitations would have been sent out and the right people confirmed as attending, not just some z-listers and token royals.

Kate was NEVER on the list, if she had, as we've gone over before, she would have been seen with HM and the RF numerous times, not just in the gutter clubs when William has time off. She would have been at garden parties, receptions, balls, banquets, and squired by William to galas, not places where booze is the main accessory.

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Title: Re: Supportive Prince shuns Royals for a lunch with Kate Middleton
Post by: June on April 25, 2011, 06:48:10 am
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I'm not talking about AFTER the engagement - HM had the chance to stop this IMO farce from unfolding a loooonnnnggg time ago. She didn't. Actions speak louder than words. I don't believe that she is that naive now, though I also used the excuse that William 'blindsided' his family.

Whilst I believe there is little doubt that he did, surely you cannot expect that an 85-year-old woman of the world - as HM is - didn't see this coming? I think that the truth is that PW did talk to her about marrying Kate, about 1-2 years prior - but HM just thought that he would have consulted her first before taking the plunge and proposing. That is why IMO she is expressing her displeasure, but it has nothing to do with Kate herself. I believe that she is disappointed in her grandson's lack of respect toward her.

Really, such a notion that she disapproves of Kate is fanciful: if she didn't approve of Kate, Kate would have been history YEARS ago. IMO, she lost the plot with Camilla and Charles; anything goes now, IMO. And, further, I think she doesn't care what happens upon and after her death. She knows the monarchy is history, so she just figures that William should marry who he pleases, make his own mistakes, and fall on his petulant backside too.

But I definitely don't agree that there was any real opposition regarding Kate. Perhaps in the beginning, yes: I believed those stories about her wanting Kate to get a job. But years ago, I was reading that HM allegedly wanted Kate to get a job before any engagement, which really had me worried, disillusioned and confused, because that indicated approval, only with a contingency.

I think she faltered when William went back to Kate in 2007 and further, that she accepted Kate's job at PP as a sweetener. There is a part of me that thinks this wedding has been in the offing for quite some time, but HM knew that nothing was a sure thing with unpredictable William. That is my view now and I won't change it. It's the only thing that makes sense to me.

Really, I think we have to take off the rose-coloured glasses and accept the fact that the royal family, HM head of the lot, sans for say Anne, has accepted Kate, though IMO Charles wanted better for his son - and has not been backward in letting that fact be known, ergo his prickly comment right after the engagement.

Now, Charles is another matter ... but he was in no position to carp after keeping Camilla on as mistress and later marrying her. I'll bet Charles hoped HM would step in years ago, but she refused. In a way, I feel sorry for him. :KEZZA:

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Title: Re: Supportive Prince shuns Royals for a lunch with Kate Middleton
Post by: Kuei Fei on April 25, 2011, 06:57:13 am
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OH, Im' not saying you're blind, plus it does sound likely, but on the other hand, HM has been in denial about a lot of things and the Diana and Fergie debacle, plus Andrew, shows HUGE blindspots.

Charles might be in no position to carp, but his mistakes should make it all the more apparant that he should step in and save his son from making the same.

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Title: Re: Supportive Prince shuns Royals for a lunch with Kate Middleton
Post by: June on April 25, 2011, 07:26:22 am
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But William would likely throw all kinds of emotional blackmail at Charles, stomping out in a rage of misguided indignation. Whether Charles has or has not tried, it is obviously a fruitless pursuit. :bored:

I think that HM should have been more on the ball AFTER those scandals. I think she knew about Andrew, but as he's her alleged favourite, turned a blind eye. Her judgment, for whatever reason, is decidedly "off". :thumbsdown:

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Title: Re: Supportive Prince shuns Royals for a lunch with Kate Middleton
Post by: Ella on April 25, 2011, 09:57:59 am
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I don't think the RF hate her, but I do believe they will tolerate her. They can't do anything now, if there is any slight towards Kate, perceived or real, they'll take another beating of "Cruel Royals" while she and William play wounded party. No one will ever convince me that man isn't a damn manipulative person. I 100% believe that if he doesn't dismantle the monarchy himself, he's going to revert it to the old way where you saw the royals every now and then. That's what he does now, a few high profile events, then several vacations, when people start to point it out, a few events, lather, rinse and repeat.

Though I agree they were blindsided and didn't see it coming (Harry slip ups in his recent interviews def. support that), they had to know that after ten years and multiple high profile appearances, she was a distinct possibility and really, after he went back in 2007, they should have been working on her image, real job, charity, cutting the apron strings, etc. so if he did propose, she wouldn't seem so bad. If he didn't, she could easily slip into normal life again.

I think HM is still operating under the "old ways" where royals could do what they want and no one has the right to question it. How else would she find their behavior okay, and even go so far as to reward it? That and she doesn't care unless if affect their image and if the public will continue to pay for them. The royals, before Charles founded his Trust and Diana, only made token efforts at most things to keep public support. Philip supported the World Wildlife Fund after he and HM shot endangered animals for fun. Margaret supported mentally disabled children, and said she didn't want to meet "daft" children at her visits....etc.

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Title: Re: Supportive Prince shuns Royals for a lunch with Kate Middleton
Post by: True Brit on April 25, 2011, 10:35:21 am
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I really am of the opinion that William doesn't want to be anywhere near his own family and he is using the Middletons as his bolt hole and excuse not to underatke Royal appearances. Look at his plea in yesterday's Sunday Times (sorry can't link as it's behind a paywall). He was more or less begging for him and Kate to have two years away from the media.

I don't really buy his excuse that it's for Kate I think it's for his own sake and nothing else. Issue being we are already seeing Waity stealing the show and that she loves it. This is going to be one hell of a marriage.

And as for the sudden found Christian faith and church appearances - just don't get me going.

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Title: Re: Supportive Prince shuns Royals for a lunch with Kate Middleton
Post by: Kezza on April 25, 2011, 11:22:41 am
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It just confirms my feelings that William is just using Kate as much as the Middletons are using him.

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Title: Re: Supportive Prince shuns Royals for a lunch with Kate Middleton
Post by: windsor2 on April 25, 2011, 04:47:55 pm
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Well, this all going to backfire and become a total mess.
Any pictures? On the news, the reporter got all excited when a range rover drove by and she said that Wills was in the car. If so, how come there's no pictures. The reporter was out side Midds country house.

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Title: Re: Supportive Prince shuns Royals for a lunch with Kate Middleton
Post by: True Brit on April 25, 2011, 04:51:47 pm
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BTW The Times is reporting that they are staying at Clarence House. They didn't say they were with the Midds over the weekend but they didn't sya they weren't either.

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Title: Re: Supportive Prince shuns Royals for a lunch with Kate Middleton
Post by: Raisie on April 25, 2011, 04:58:32 pm
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I feel strange that in the XXI century with the new technologies and people saw the "couple" we haven't see any pictures yet.
I probably go more of what the times said,William was on CH is more likely as we don't have pics.

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Title: Re: Supportive Prince shuns Royals for a lunch with Kate Middleton
Post by: windsor2 on April 25, 2011, 05:21:48 pm
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I wonder if for some reason he's not cooperating, therefore all of these stories without pictures. It'll be funny if he's in Africa. There were reports that he was going to go there before the wedding. As Raisie said, they'd be pictures of the happy couple prior to the wedding. It just seems like the Midds, Waity and perhaps CH are scrambling to save face. What a mess golden boy’s created. :naughty:

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Title: Re: Supportive Prince shuns Royals for a lunch with Kate Middleton
Post by: benign on April 25, 2011, 05:24:58 pm
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Quote from: True Brit on April 25, 2011, 04:51:47 pm
BTW The Times is reporting that they are staying at Clarence House. They didn't say they were with the Midds over the weekend but they didn't sya they weren't either.
interesting...apparently the Midds have a Range Rover same as PW...
Quote from: Kezza on April 25, 2011, 11:22:41 am
It just confirms my feelings that William is just using Kate as much as the Middletons are using him.
yup, but whats the catch? Is marriage the last chapter of the book?

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Title: Re: Supportive Prince shuns Royals for a lunch with Kate Middleton
Post by: mousiekins on April 25, 2011, 06:09:16 pm
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The Midds do have Range Rovers.

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