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Post by india on Feb 20, 2021 18:47:22 GMT
The York blood princesses have never done anything really wrong other that jet setting and that is not wrong in itself. Their parents are reprehensible but they are not.
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Post by kueifei on Feb 28, 2021 5:01:25 GMT
If the Yorkies are going to be cut out of royal work, they don't owe anyone anything at all. They don't have to live lives of nun-like asceticism just so everyone feels better.
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Post by Admin on Feb 28, 2021 16:36:35 GMT
If the Yorkies are going to be cut out of royal work, they don't owe anyone anything at all. They don't have to live lives of nun-like asceticism just so everyone feels better. Plus they didn't fake the Succession with false heirs. No real fan of Beatrice and her shady climber hubby (not royal material there), but Eugenie and her husband seem like a decent couple. If what may/should/could happen due to what William and possibly Harry did to the Succession, then the future of the Monarchy may come down to the Yorks. It's just getting worse as time goes on - can you imagine removing 7 heirs from the Succession, those that are fake royals and the so-called parents who brought them into this mess? And who knows? If what we know is going on/has gone on is true, then it might be up to Parliament to decide who the heir would be after Charles. Just speculating here - it's not like there's a precedent for a mess of this magnitude.
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Post by kueifei on Feb 28, 2021 16:47:53 GMT
If this comes out the way we think of the situation, Parliament would literally have to step in and take complete control since it would be obvious that HM is either incapable or unwilling to actually face the hard facts. There is no way that William would be allowed to succeed after something like this and there is no way that anyone would tolerate Andrew wearing the crown with Fergie by his side. The Yorkies are useless, but it is clear that either would be readily received by heads of state that politicians need someone to cultivate. For William to ascend the throne would be horrific and the UK would be placed in very real danger. It is clear that William will have not just brought the monarchy to it's knees, but would bring the UK itself to a point where it would be able to be taken by anyone. It is clear that he would also end up exposing the UK to ridicule that would never go away and there is no way that the politicians and diplomats would be able to handle the fallout along with the fact that they would have to literally work nonstop to maintain stability, an almost impossible task. After the initial shock, there would be riots all over the UK and the Commonwealth governments would collapse as well since there would be nationwide riots in each and every single nation. It would also reverberate diplomatically and a lot of diplomats would see their life's work and credibility dissolve overnight and there would be no getting it back. There would be no way that this could be fixed and Nichols and Seward would be either watching their homes burn or they would be running for their lives with their careers in utter ruins. There would be no going back.
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Post by Admin on Feb 28, 2021 20:25:43 GMT
If this comes out the way we think of the situation, Parliament would literally have to step in and take complete control since it would be obvious that HM is either incapable or unwilling to actually face the hard facts. There is no way that William would be allowed to succeed after something like this and there is no way that anyone would tolerate Andrew wearing the crown with Fergie by his side. The Yorkies are useless, but it is clear that either would be readily received by heads of state that politicians need someone to cultivate. For William to ascend the throne would be horrific and the UK would be placed in very real danger. It is clear that William will have not just brought the monarchy to it's knees, but would bring the UK itself to a point where it would be able to be taken by anyone. It is clear that he would also end up exposing the UK to ridicule that would never go away and there is no way that the politicians and diplomats would be able to handle the fallout along with the fact that they would have to literally work nonstop to maintain stability, an almost impossible task. After the initial shock, there would be riots all over the UK and the Commonwealth governments would collapse as well since there would be nationwide riots in each and every single nation. It would also reverberate diplomatically and a lot of diplomats would see their life's work and credibility dissolve overnight and there would be no getting it back. There would be no way that this could be fixed and Nichols and Seward would be either watching their homes burn or they would be running for their lives with their careers in utter ruins. There would be no going back. It would be a catastrophe of epic proportions and I don't think William really realizes how much damage HE has caused and would be responsible for. Entire careers would be in tatters due to no fault of the people affected; they were used and lie to, etc, and if I were them, if and when this all comes up, I would sue for damages. This is why this thread is in a "members only" forum - people don't want us even talking about our opinions about this matter. Nobody can glory in such a hideous predicament/situation, but we indeed saw the writing on the wall years ago, and we were disturbed about it then. We are even more disturbed/disgusted about it now. It's just going to be...awful.
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Post by kueifei on Feb 28, 2021 22:27:51 GMT
I don't know how much of this is 'real' to William. He has been going through life, since taking Kate back, as if he is still in his early twenties and still living a life of Riley and he really does seem surprised that his actions get negative reactions and it is clear that he has a ton of anger over how life turned out, despite the fact that where is is, is a result of his choices, not circumstance. It is not a result of circumstance that he is still a joke and is not received or treated as an equal with President Jinping or any others. He has nothing to talk about and it is clear that in terms of behavior, he is with his real equal. He might have thought that like his father, he would be swamped with titled ladies, ladies of accomplishment, throwing themselves at him and he would have his pick of lady to mistreat/degrade and it is clear that he has been completely bewildered that it didn't happen. I think he hasn't been connected with reality for some time and it is clear that if this is in fact real, that a surrogate was used, it would mean that William has lost his ever loving mind.
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Post by india on Feb 28, 2021 23:26:54 GMT
He's not right in the head.
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Post by kueifei on Feb 28, 2021 23:53:29 GMT
William is having problems functioning in a culture where he isn't the center of everyone's adulation. He was weaned on adulation and everything being effortless. Then 2007 came along and he wasn't sure how to react to Kate not going away quietly. Then he announced his engagement and wasn't sure why Britain wasn't celebrating with him and he was surely shocked at how the wedding had huge low ratings. Then the fact that other events eclipsed his life and since then it is clear that he has been unable to handle the fact that the time of having it all effortlessly is gone and it isn't coming back.
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Post by india on Mar 1, 2021 0:34:59 GMT
Why would anybody pay attention to that lantern jawed cone head who is an inept rude stupid arrogant entitled bullying LIAR? He is to be avoided at all costs. And nobody is interested in anything that comes out of his yellow toothed mouth.
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Post by kueifei on Mar 1, 2021 6:29:55 GMT
Why would anybody pay attention to that lantern jawed cone head who is an inept rude stupid arrogant entitled bullying LIAR? He is to be avoided at all costs. And nobody is interested in anything that comes out of his yellow toothed mouth.
Logic has nothing to do with it. William was raised to believe certain things about himself and it was reinforced by the media. I do believe that William has been having problems functioning since he has been living without boundaries for a very long time and he is unable to process just what it is that he has done. I do believe that William will get a painful wake up call, but by the time that wake-up call comes, it will be too late to turn anything around, much like his ancestress Marie Antoinette. William is clearly escalating his behavior and I think with the surrogacy he has crossed a line of no return. He literally has no other option at this point in time.
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Post by romilly on Mar 15, 2021 8:40:15 GMT
The surrogacies are raising their heads again in connection with the Haz and Megs interview. People are asking on social media why QE turned a blind eye to Kate’s alleged deception of the public by blatantly wearing foam bellies in public. It’s also brought up the question again of George's DNA. The bottom line is that QE seemed to condone Kate’s deception/lies whilst calling out Megs. It’s coming up in the DM again and a typical comment is below
‘The dull Cambridge’s are alleged to jump on every current bandwagon to try and be popular and relevant. Questions are being asked on social media as to why QE is ‘investigating’ Meg’s ‘claims’ when those close say she (QE) knew that Kate was alleged to be deceiving the public by reportedly wearing foam bellies whilst using surrogates!! That would mean the children were ‘not of the body’ and therefore not in the line of succession.’
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Post by Admin on Mar 21, 2021 3:49:10 GMT
Having a chat with my sister today - I have recently filled her in with some of my ancestry finds, so she is well aware of that. Now, she starts asking me questions recently about some royal figures, and I share what I know, etc. Just random royal talk and all. Now, unlike me, she's not a royal follower, really, it's really much more my thing than hers.
She has given birth 6 times. She didn't find when I brought up talk about William and Kate driving out Harry and faking the Succession surprising. (I sometimes think people in general wouldn't understand and think I'm wearing some kind of tinfoil hat!) The points she brought up were the essentially some of the same I had. She made mention about Kate never really looking pregnant, something about her fake bump being up to her neck?. lol And that the children didn't look like hers, and that don't all the kids have brown eyes? (and of course I write back my own impressions, too!) She mentioned as well she didn't think there was real racism in the family but seemed to agree that William and Kate drove Harry out. Just texting back and forth a bit...I just thought I would relate that.
Now my sister and I have very different lives but it's interesting to be on the same wavelengths with some opinions.
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Post by kueifei on Mar 25, 2021 21:45:54 GMT
The surrogacies are raising their heads again in connection with the Haz and Megs interview. People are asking on social media why QE turned a blind eye to Kate’s alleged deception of the public by blatantly wearing foam bellies in public. It’s also brought up the question again of George's DNA. The bottom line is that QE seemed to condone Kate’s deception/lies whilst calling out Megs. It’s coming up in the DM again and a typical comment is below ‘The dull Cambridge’s are alleged to jump on every current bandwagon to try and be popular and relevant. Questions are being asked on social media as to why QE is ‘investigating’ Meg’s ‘claims’ when those close say she (QE) knew that Kate was alleged to be deceiving the public by reportedly wearing foam bellies whilst using surrogates!! That would mean the children were ‘not of the body’ and therefore not in the line of succession.’
It would mean that HM is protecting William because of his rank, no other reason. HM (like most monarchs) would not at all be able to handle something like this without literally blowing up an entire nation's reputation and it is clear that no one can handle this unless they were a literal Machiavellian genius.
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Post by councilcath on Mar 25, 2021 21:58:24 GMT
^ HM is too much of coward to do anything to that treason brat. Kate should have been sectioned after the FIRST treason act whilst William removed from the line of succession . It is a disgrace that the House of Windsor is going down all because of common tart and a stupid prince.
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Post by kueifei on Mar 25, 2021 22:41:52 GMT
^ HM is too much of coward to do anything to that tr#ason brat. Kate should have been sectioned after the FIRST tr#ason act whilst William removed from the line of succession . It is a disgrace that the House of Windsor is going down all because of common tart and a stupid prince.
The foundation has been rotten for quite some time. Kate would NEVER have gotten in if it had been sturdy and secure. It's not like William was on track and he was mistakenly trusted in areas he should not have been trusted in.
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Post by touchstonemomma on Mar 26, 2021 1:59:00 GMT
Having a chat with my sister today - I have recently filled her in with some of my ancestry finds, so she is well aware of that. Now, she starts asking me questions recently about some royal figures, and I share what I know, etc. Just random royal talk and all. Now, unlike me, she's not a royal follower, really, it's really much more my thing than hers. She has given birth 6 times. She didn't find when I brought up talk about William and Kate driving out Harry and faking the Succession surprising. (I sometimes think people in general wouldn't understand and think I'm wearing some kind of tinfoil hat!) The points she brought up were the essentially some of the same I had. She made mention about Kate never really looking pregnant, something about her fake bump being up to her neck?. lol And that the children didn't look like hers, and that don't all the kids have brown eyes? (and of course I write back my own impressions, too!) She mentioned as well she didn't think there was real racism in the family but seemed to agree that William and Kate drove Harry out. Just texting back and forth a bit...I just thought I would relate that. Now my sister and I have very different lives but it's interesting to be on the same wavelengths with some opinions. I agree with your sister. Some swear they see Middleton in the kids but my personal opinion is those babies have never resembled Kate or anyone in her family not one. I see William and other Windsor’s/spencer in the children but never the midds (which would be a Blessing for the babes) & I remember talk that they used Williams sperm but a Russian surrogate. However that they couldn’t get the same surrogate for Louis as they did for Charlotte & George. There is a reason not one of those kids have a connection to Kate or the midds-the kids avoid them like the plaque
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Post by kueifei on Mar 26, 2021 2:11:38 GMT
If a Russian surrogate was used, it means that the Russian government has HUGE leverage over the British nation and it means that the Russian people after finding out, would burn the UK embassy to the ground and demand that war be declared. There is no way that this would be defused with a simple statement of acknowledgement and there is no way that this could be papered over with the announcement of a divorce and promise of a legitimate heir. I honestly think the MOST important thing would be to see to the well being of those kids who will be stripped of their status and send them into complete shock.
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Post by Admin on Mar 26, 2021 2:11:55 GMT
Having a chat with my sister today - I have recently filled her in with some of my ancestry finds, so she is well aware of that. Now, she starts asking me questions recently about some royal figures, and I share what I know, etc. Just random royal talk and all. Now, unlike me, she's not a royal follower, really, it's really much more my thing than hers. She has given birth 6 times. She didn't find when I brought up talk about William and Kate driving out Harry and faking the Succession surprising. (I sometimes think people in general wouldn't understand and think I'm wearing some kind of tinfoil hat!) The points she brought up were the essentially some of the same I had. She made mention about Kate never really looking pregnant, something about her fake bump being up to her neck?. lol And that the children didn't look like hers, and that don't all the kids have brown eyes? (and of course I write back my own impressions, too!) She mentioned as well she didn't think there was real racism in the family but seemed to agree that William and Kate drove Harry out. Just texting back and forth a bit...I just thought I would relate that. Now my sister and I have very different lives but it's interesting to be on the same wavelengths with some opinions. I agree with your sister. Some swear they see Middleton in the kids but my personal opinion is those babies have never resembled Kate or anyone in her family not one. I see William and other Windsor’s/spencer in the children but never the midds (which would be a Blessing for the babes) & I remember talk that they used Williams sperm but a Russian surrogate. However that they couldn’t get the same surrogate for Louis as they did for Charlotte & George. There is a reason not one of those kids have a connection to Kate or the midds-the kids avoid them like the plaque Whatever the dubious mix is (could give one a true headache thinking about it all!) those children have zero rights to the Succession. Not of the body born, etc. George and Louis seem to be mini Michael Middletons and Charlotte could even possibly be a mix of Pippa and William (no wonder Council Caro loves that kid). I could speculate the boys could well be Kate's full blood brothers (from both parents). Carole wouldn't allow just any eggs to be used, methinks, she wanted HER blood to be in them.
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Post by Admin on Mar 26, 2021 2:17:45 GMT
If a Russian surrogate was used, it means that the Russian government has HUGE leverage over the British nation and it means that the Russian people after finding out, would burn the UK embassy to the ground and demand that war be declared. There is no way that this would be defused with a simple statement of acknowledgement and there is no way that this could be papered over with the announcement of a divorce and promise of a legitimate heir. I honestly think the MOST important thing would be to see to the well being of those kids who will be stripped of their status and send them into complete shock. Those children are indeed being used very badly - imagine everything about your life being a fraud? It's just going to get much uglier as time goes on.
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Post by Admin on Mar 26, 2021 3:11:25 GMT
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