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Post by kueifei on Aug 25, 2024 2:57:25 GMT
Now Durek gets a diplomatic passport. Also Marius was outed as having a diplomatic passport as well. Imagine that. Marry a prince or princess and get legal immunity.
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Post by Admin on Aug 25, 2024 12:18:05 GMT
Now Durek gets a diplomatic passport. Also Marius was outed as having a diplomatic passport as well. Imagine that. Marry a prince or princess and get legal immunity. ML will no doubt continue bleating about how her husband is not accepted due to racism - in Norway? I don't believe it - she's always been a couple fries short of a Happy Meal ®
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Post by kueifei on Aug 26, 2024 2:33:52 GMT
Now Durek gets a diplomatic passport. Also Marius was outed as having a diplomatic passport as well. Imagine that. Marry a prince or princess and get legal immunity. ML will no doubt continue bleating about how her husband is not accepted due to racism - in Norway? I don't believe it - she's always been a couple fries short of a Happy Meal ® I sincerely believe that Ragnhild was right about this mess. Marius has committed violent assault and he will either skate or end up a convict and the upcoming Queen of Norway will end up with a convict of a son and of course, Haakon will have that mess to inaugurate his reign. I understand now why crown princes married consorts with no past, no previous children or previous marriages. Neither Mette or Marius are anything other than as common as barnyard animals and I understand his ambiguous position and such, but he has been welcomed and loved and cherished and included. This is how he repays nad now Mette is caught out making a call to the victim and has been pulled from her duties and is now publicly up a creek.
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Post by Admin on Aug 26, 2024 2:38:11 GMT
ML will no doubt continue bleating about how her husband is not accepted due to racism - in Norway? I don't believe it - she's always been a couple fries short of a Happy Meal ® I sincerely believe that Ragnhild was right about this mess. Marius has committed violent assault and he will either skate or end up a convict and the upcoming Queen of Norway will end up with a convict of a son and of course, Haakon will have that mess to inaugurate his reign. I understand now why crown princes married consorts with no past, no previous children or previous marriages. Neither Mette or Marius are anything other than as common as barnyard animals and I understand his ambiguous position and such, but he has been welcomed and loved and cherished and included. This is how he repays nad now Mette is caught out making a call to the victim and has been pulled from her duties and is now publicly up a creek. Ragnhild (late sister of the King) called it. I think with Marius that the apple never falls far the tree, unfortunately. Mette was never going to be a suitable consort.
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Post by kueifei on Aug 26, 2024 12:52:14 GMT
I sincerely believe that Ragnhild was right about this mess. Marius has committed violent assault and he will either skate or end up a convict and the upcoming Queen of Norway will end up with a convict of a son and of course, Haakon will have that mess to inaugurate his reign. I understand now why crown princes married consorts with no past, no previous children or previous marriages. Neither Mette or Marius are anything other than as common as barnyard animals and I understand his ambiguous position and such, but he has been welcomed and loved and cherished and included. This is how he repays nad now Mette is caught out making a call to the victim and has been pulled from her duties and is now publicly up a creek. Ragnhild (late sister of the King) called it. I think with Marius that the apple never falls far the tree, unfortunately. Mette was never going to be a suitable consort. Mette was never going to be respectable, much less any sane man's wife, much less still that of a crown prince. If Haakon had any kind of concept of his position, he never would have consorted with her.
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Post by india on Sept 1, 2024 16:48:23 GMT
Ragnhild (late sister of the King) called it. I think with Marius that the apple never falls far the tree, unfortunately. Mette was never going to be a suitable consort. Mette was never going to be respectable, much less any sane man's wife, much less still that of a crown prince. If Haakon had any kind of concept of his position, he never would have consorted with her. Is Haakon just stupid or what?
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Post by kueifei on Sept 1, 2024 21:15:16 GMT
Mette was never going to be respectable, much less any sane man's wife, much less still that of a crown prince. If Haakon had any kind of concept of his position, he never would have consorted with her. Is Haakon just stupid or what? Haakon grew up in an era where royals were beginning to develop a bad attitude towards other people, not just their position. Since Diana and Fergie, the generation following right after Diana and Fergie have been getting away with joyriding and copping a bad attitude and mouthing off and flouting their own support network. The main problem has always been the culture, a culture in the 80's and 90's where being disrespectful to others took root and was actively celebrated. Haakon also likely had a much more benign upbringing more on par with spoiled trust fund kids rather than a prince who was only as well off as he was accomplished. We all know how suburbia culture has devolved to the point where behavior among comfortable families is downright primitive and we know that the 60's had a generation that has gotten off on being rebellious against an establishment that they were eventually going to join and the Boomers are unique in that they are determined to grow into childhood instead of out of it. I am certain that with Felipe and Haakon and many others, it is unfathomable that they in fact do not know everything and I do not blame their parents mainly since it likely never occurred to Juan Carlos or Harald that their heirs would do anything other than get a good time out of their system and end a lot of internal chaos, get joyriding out of themselves and move on to their real lives and real selves and marry someone respectable and end up being able to fulfill a basic and undemanding role with appropriate finesse and maybe even emulate King Charles in creating a sincere philanthropic organization and live a happy life. Point blank, they bought the BS of their youthful culture and have been making their nation pay for it ever since. Mette and Leti were never going to contribute much. Mette somehow managed to convince a CP to wife her up despite her self inflicted mess and second, her son was welcomed in and was likely a bad seed for quite some time. I truly do think that for some reason the most recent generation has malfunctioned.
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Post by Admin on Sept 1, 2024 23:04:44 GMT
Uh-oh. www.lavanguardia.com/mediterranean/20240822/9883567/setback-for-prince-haakon-the-vast-majority-of-norwegians-do-not-want-him-to-reign.htmlNORWEGIAN ROYAL FAMILY The violent scandal involving Marius Borg Høiby, son of Mette-Marit, brings back feelings of the past for Norwegians Norwegian police investigate Princess Mette-Marit's son for two more cases of violenceJUDITH DEL RÍO 22/08/2024 22:45 Marius Borg Høiby, the eldest son of Princess Mette-Marit of Norway, is complicating life for the Scandinavian royal family. The young man was arrested and subsequently released on charges a few days ago, accused of causing physical and psychological injuries to his partner, who had to be hospitalized with a concussion. An incident for which the 27-year-old apologized, citing drug use and mental disorders, but has not prevented new investigations from being initiated for similar incidents in the past. In the midst of the scandal, the Norwegian royal family faces inevitable consequences: Norwegians do not want Haakon as the next head of the royal house. Trust in the monarchy is in doubt, and the ghosts of the past seem to return just as the heir and his wife, Mette-Marit, are about to celebrate their twenty-third wedding anniversary. A link that, as many will remember, was not without controversy due to Mette-Marit's somewhat wild past, which was a stumbling block in her relationship with Prince Haakon. In 1997, she became a mother to Marius with a man who was convicted of drug trafficking, had drug problems, there were compromising photos, and appeared on television to find a boyfriend. Marius has already been arrested for a drug-related issue and also reported for driving while talking on the phone
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Post by Admin on Sept 1, 2024 23:15:01 GMT
Princess Ragnhild and her husband. Ragnhild was quite vocal on the troubles that Marius would have as a non-royal member of the family. Handsome couple, by the way.
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Post by Admin on Sept 1, 2024 23:18:54 GMT
www.theroyalforums.com/threads/relationships-between-members-of-the-norwegian-royal-family.29715/Relationships between princess Ragnhild, Märtha-Louise and Haakon-Magnus "It's been 50 years since Norway's Princess Ragnhild, eldest sister of King Harald, moved to Brazil with her husband, businessman Erling Lorentzen. Now she's speaking out in a TV documentary, offering candid opinions about some members of the royal family, which her husband didn't want broadcast. Royal adviser Berit Tversland won't comment on Princess Ragnhild's criticism. Norway's national commercial TV station, TV2, was due to broadcast the documentary Monday evening, as scheduled. TV2 officials, however, spent the weekend "discussing" the program with both Lorentzen and his lawyer, known media prosecutor Per Danielsen. In the program, called "Princess in exile," the eldest daughter of Norway's late King Olav says among other things that both her nephew Crown Prince Haakon and niece Princess Martha Louisee must have had "poor advisers" regarding their choice of spouses. Princess Ragnhild earlier has criticized single mothers, an indirect stab at Haakon's wife Crown Princess Mette-Marit, who was a single mother when he met her. On Monday, the palace official who's been the adviser for both Haakon and Martha Louise, declined to comment on Princess Ragnhild's criticism. Berit Tversland, who has functioned as part-nanny and part-professional consultant since both royal children were born, is known as having had probably the closest relationship to Haakon and Martha Louise as anyone. "I don't want to comment on Princess Ragnhild's statements," Tversland told newspaper Aftenposten. "I must refer you to the palace's information department." Palace spokeswoman Wenche Rasch, however, won't comment, either. Princess Ragnhild claims to be concerned about the future of the monarchy in Norway, and reportedly has worried that "royal etiquette" isn't always followed by today's royals. She also was reportedly hurt and felt overlooked when her brother King Harald and his wife, Queen Sonja, made a state visit to Brazil last fall. She wasn't included on the private jet that carried the royals from Rio de Janeiro to Brasilia, and the king and queen cancelled plans for lunch at the Lorentzen home in Rio just a few hours before they were to arrive.
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Post by Admin on Sept 1, 2024 23:22:06 GMT
www.theroyalforums.com/threads/relationships-between-members-of-the-norwegian-royal-family.29715/So has anyone been following Prince Ragnhilld's scating comments on the RF in the documentary titled Princess in Exile? It's caused a quite a storm in Norway and her husband even tried not to have it aired. It was filmed around the time of the state visit to Brazil (when she was felt ditched by the King and Queen). Here's a copy of an Aftenposten article that appeared today. She hopes she dies before the day comes when Crown Princess Mette-Marit may become Norway's queen. She's less than impressed with her nephew, Crown Prince Haakon, and her niece, Princess Martha Louise. Princess Ragnhild thinks their new spouses threaten the future of the monarchy.As the eldest daughter of Norway's late King Olav, Princess Ragnhild once held a central role in the country's monarchy. Ships have been named after her, she's been a fixture at most royal events and she endured a strict, tradition-bound life as a royal herself. Now, at age 73, she's spoken out in a TV2 documentary peppered with harsh assessments of today's royals in Norway. She's lived in Brazil for the past 50 years, and clearly has been watching the royal family from afar with no small amount of dissatisfaction. Asked whether she ponders the future of the monarchy, she said she does. "I'm not worried for myself, but for Norway, yes," she said. "I hope I die before that happens. I really hope so."
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Post by Admin on Sept 1, 2024 23:33:00 GMT
www.theroyalforums.com/threads/relationships-between-members-of-the-norwegian-royal-family.29715/Are they negative for the monarchy? "Yes, that I'm certain of," she said. "If my father had lived a bit longer, everything would have been very different," she claimed. King Olav wouldn't have allowed the marriages? "No, I don't think so," she said. 'Feels sorry' for Marius Princess Ragnhild said she also feels "terribly sorry for that son she (now-Crown Princess Mette-Marit) has." Once the couple had a new child who's a royal heir, she claimed, "poor Marius is nothing. He is six (now seven) years old, but will understand that there's a difference. And that will give them (Haakon and Mette-Marit) problems. I hope they have thought about that."
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Post by Admin on Sept 1, 2024 23:39:16 GMT
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Post by kueifei on Sept 2, 2024 0:58:24 GMT
www.theroyalforums.com/threads/relationships-between-members-of-the-norwegian-royal-family.29715/Are they negative for the monarchy? "Yes, that I'm certain of," she said. "If my father had lived a bit longer, everything would have been very different," she claimed. King Olav wouldn't have allowed the marriages? "No, I don't think so," she said. 'Feels sorry' for Marius Princess Ragnhild said she also feels "terribly sorry for that son she (now-Crown Princess Mette-Marit) has." Once the couple had a new child who's a royal heir, she claimed, "poor Marius is nothing. He is six (now seven) years old, but will understand that there's a difference. And that will give them (Haakon and Mette-Marit) problems. I hope they have thought about that." I have to agree. Ever since the heirs have been born, Marius has likely been seething with alienated jealousy and that takes a huge toll. He has no title, he has no real position set up, and he has no real direction or guidance. Second, he can't seem to figure out how to grow not just up, but outward and that is a crucial fact. He is an adjunct to two families and regrettably he chooses not to play both sides to build up his own standing and develop a fabulous situation for himself.
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Post by Admin on Sept 2, 2024 1:07:47 GMT
www.theroyalforums.com/threads/relationships-between-members-of-the-norwegian-royal-family.29715/Are they negative for the monarchy? "Yes, that I'm certain of," she said. "If my father had lived a bit longer, everything would have been very different," she claimed. King Olav wouldn't have allowed the marriages? "No, I don't think so," she said. 'Feels sorry' for Marius Princess Ragnhild said she also feels "terribly sorry for that son she (now-Crown Princess Mette-Marit) has." Once the couple had a new child who's a royal heir, she claimed, "poor Marius is nothing. He is six (now seven) years old, but will understand that there's a difference. And that will give them (Haakon and Mette-Marit) problems. I hope they have thought about that." I have to agree. Ever since the heirs have been born, Marius has likely been seething with alienated jealousy and that takes a huge toll. He has no title, he has no real position set up, and he has no real direction or guidance. Second, he can't seem to figure out how to grow not just up, but outward and that is a crucial fact. He is an adjunct to two families and regrettably he chooses not to play both sides to build up his own standing and develop a fabulous situation for himself. Ragnhild spelled it out and now we are seeing the results - she read all of this from Brazil, too. She was a smart lady. Popularity for the Norwegian monarchy is waning and go figure, people don't want Haakon as a future King. Marius seems to have been a "problem child" with some deep-seated issues and no place in that family, IMO. I bet he has had some issues as a teen, that, no doubt, were covered up by the palace. Check this out: people.com/princess-mette-marit-norway-son-marius-borg-hoiby-arrested-report-8691243Marius is not in the line of succession to the throne and doesn't have a public role. In 2017, it was announced that he would lead a largely private life.
Crown Princess Mette-Marit said of the decision at the time, "Marius has always had a role that has been difficult to define in the public sphere. He is and will be an exceptionally important part of our family. Marius became a symbol of the unusual choice we made when we got married, at the same time, he will not carry public duties like his siblings. He should not have a public role and is not a public figure."
However, he often joins the Norwegian royals for family events, such as the 18th birthday celebrations for his half-sister, Princess Ingrid Alexandra, in 2022.
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Post by kueifei on Sept 2, 2024 3:24:33 GMT
I have to agree. Ever since the heirs have been born, Marius has likely been seething with alienated jealousy and that takes a huge toll. He has no title, he has no real position set up, and he has no real direction or guidance. Second, he can't seem to figure out how to grow not just up, but outward and that is a crucial fact. He is an adjunct to two families and regrettably he chooses not to play both sides to build up his own standing and develop a fabulous situation for himself. Ragnhild spelled it out and now we are seeing the results - she read all of this from Brazil, too. She was a smart lady. Popularity for the Norwegian monarchy is waning and go figure, people don't want Haakon as a future King. Marius seems to have been a "problem child" with some deep-seated issues and no place in that family, IMO. I bet he has had some issues as a teen, that, no doubt, were covered up by the palace. Check this out: people.com/princess-mette-marit-norway-son-marius-borg-hoiby-arrested-report-8691243Marius is not in the line of succession to the throne and doesn't have a public role. In 2017, it was announced that he would lead a largely private life.
Crown Princess Mette-Marit said of the decision at the time, "Marius has always had a role that has been difficult to define in the public sphere. He is and will be an exceptionally important part of our family. Marius became a symbol of the unusual choice we made when we got married, at the same time, he will not carry public duties like his siblings. He should not have a public role and is not a public figure."
However, he often joins the Norwegian royals for family events, such as the 18th birthday celebrations for his half-sister, Princess Ingrid Alexandra, in 2022.I think the problem is his attitude. A ton of kids are not part of a majorly privileged sphere, but still make well and live well and be happy. He has a situation that if played right could have brought the best of both worlds, but regrettably he hasn't played it well at all. Ragnhild was a survivor of her family being ripped apart in WWII and quite frankly if I had ended up surviving something like that, I would be tough as boots too. You can't marry a woman like Mette and live a happy life.
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Post by kueifei on Sept 4, 2024 13:07:28 GMT
royaldish.com/index.php?topic=6536.3540If I were Sverre Magnus I would be unforgiving. Marius and ML just cost him his "HRH" and a set future that would have enabled him to have a set position in a dynastic situation that is supposed to provide him with security in exchange for not working, being banned from the workforce and now he is thrown out of all of it. First, Marius should be thrown out of the palaces and estates and bank accounts that he has been freeloading off of and second, Mette should be sanctioned for her determination to assist her violent son and I sincerely think her actions cost Sverre his position. There is nothing that can justify wrecking Sverre's dynastic position. If Harald were somewhat lucid, he would just politely order ML to give up her "HRH" and this whole 'Other Family' title is in fact complete fiction and unrealistic.
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Post by Admin on Sept 5, 2024 14:03:49 GMT
royaldish.com/index.php?topic=6536.3540If I were Sverre Magnus I would be unforgiving. Marius and ML just cost him his "HRH" and a set future that would have enabled him to have a set position in a dynastic situation that is supposed to provide him with security in exchange for not working, being banned from the workforce and now he is thrown out of all of it. First, Marius should be thrown out of the palaces and estates and bank accounts that he has been freeloading off of and second, Mette should be sanctioned for her determination to assist her violent son and I sincerely think her actions cost Sverre his position. There is nothing that can justify wrecking Sverre's dynastic position. If Harald were somewhat lucid, he would just politely order ML to give up her "HRH" and this whole 'Other Family' title is in fact complete fiction and unrealistic. There seems to be a determination by now several royal families, to back the stupidity, poor marital choices, abusiveness, treason and/or/all suspect bad behaviours of the first borns over all other family members. Innocent family members suffering the consequences for what the first borns and their usually useless and/or trashy outsider spouses have brought into the family. That is not right and goes against how royal families should behave. Where are the loyal family units protecting their own? Yes, the prince of the family is of course protected, but it has always come at great cost to others. That is not new, of course, but expect some fight back of some kind. Protecting the heir at all costs always leads to further family division or far worse.
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Post by Admin on Sept 5, 2024 15:10:33 GMT
news.sky.com/story/meet-the-norwegian-princess-marrying-a-shaman-in-ceremony-with-cool-and-sexy-dress-code-this-weekend-13204237On what planet did Durek think that any royal family would accept him or others like him in their families? Until 1918 and well beyond,you married with fellow royals and not even with non-royals until recently. Far, far, far better and nobler human beings had to jump through figurative hoops of fire to marry in, so how did some slimy, idiotic and low-grade California scammer/hood think he was royal marriage material? Even with a dysfunctional Norwegian royal family and liberal, non-racist populace, he still is highly controversial and seen as the scammer and charlatan he is. Sorry, but pure ghetto. Then there's deluded, brainless crackpot ML smiling away, probably happy that there was somebody there to settle for her. What a disgraceful idiot, too.
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Post by kueifei on Sept 5, 2024 15:13:08 GMT
royaldish.com/index.php?topic=6536.3540If I were Sverre Magnus I would be unforgiving. Marius and ML just cost him his "HRH" and a set future that would have enabled him to have a set position in a dynastic situation that is supposed to provide him with security in exchange for not working, being banned from the workforce and now he is thrown out of all of it. First, Marius should be thrown out of the palaces and estates and bank accounts that he has been freeloading off of and second, Mette should be sanctioned for her determination to assist her violent son and I sincerely think her actions cost Sverre his position. There is nothing that can justify wrecking Sverre's dynastic position. If Harald were somewhat lucid, he would just politely order ML to give up her "HRH" and this whole 'Other Family' title is in fact complete fiction and unrealistic. There seems to be a determination by now several royal families, to back the stupidity, poor marital choices, abusiveness, treason and/or/all suspect bad behaviours of the first borns over all other family members. Innocent family members suffering the consequences for what the first borns and their usually useless and/or trashy outsider spouses have brought into the family. That is not right and goes against how royal families should behave. Where are the loyal family units protecting their own? Yes, the prince of the family is of course protected, but it has always come at great cost to others. That is not new, of course, but expect some fight back of some kind. Protecting the heir at all costs always leads to further family division or far worse. The real problem is that Harald and CG married commoners. These women did not know how to adjust and adapt to the way of life that requires the family to function more as a tribe, not a 'family' along the lines of what they themselves grew up in. Silvia and Sonja do not know how to properly raise children to be independent and aware at the earliest possible age and the past two generation of heirs are focusing on their 'humanity' at the expense of realities. Reality is that they are in possession of diplomatic passports; reality is that their idiot selves do not at all facing the cold hard fact that not everyone sees them as they do themselves. The biggest flaw of royalty is that they refuse to see that others see what they have, not who they are at first. These royals do not see their lives as outsiders see them and quite frankly I wonder just how much mores stupid can they get? Sverre is going to have to adjust to being punished for something that he isn't at fault for and second, IA will need her brother and will need a huge support network. If IA does not have that, she will flounder and I question if whether or not she is in fact ready for anything at age eighteen. Part time in kindergarten and being allowed to violate regulation by wearing sunglasses while in uniform is in fact going to make me question if she can truly get and hold herself together. In the best of times, people will take shots at her, but in these troubled times, it will only get worse. Sverre should be allowed to keep his titles and position and of course be directed into some type of service position in government where he can attend functions, but as a working dignitary, not just a socialite with a diplomatic passport. Now this is yanked and none of this is his fault. Not one bit of it. Marius has been freeloading since sixteen mainly since it is clear that he is energetic and non-disabled and he is not at all mentally ill. Most mentally ill are non-aggressive and nonviolent. He is both and after he turned sixteen his mother should have ushered him into the workforce and made sure he was trained in skills and should have ended up full time in the workforce and uni at age eighteen. There is literally NO justification for palace living and freely given cash and he never had any kind of justifiable right to have Rolexes on his wrists that he hadn't earned and paid for. There is nothing wrong with living a working life and there are tons of ways to generate fantastic cash and avoid anything majorly arduous. It isn't fair that Sverre is losing his ancestral birthright and it is WRONG that IA is being denied a valuable source of support and it is clear that Harald just removed a major obstacle to the removal of the NRF in Norway. You can't reign without support and you can't reign without and aristocracy.
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