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Post by kueifei on Oct 3, 2020 20:49:53 GMT
Famous for being the most hated royal couple of the 20th Century, at least in regards to British history.
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Post by Admin on Oct 3, 2020 21:13:54 GMT
Famous for being the most hated royal couple of the 20th Century, at least in regards to British history. I think we all may be thinking WHY.  |
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Post by kueifei on Oct 3, 2020 23:21:16 GMT
1. The Queen Mother had a level of pride that would scandalize Lucifer and she would never have given any Queen of Edward's any peace.
2. Edward wasn't Victorian enough in regards to his personal fashionable set and thought it was absurd that clocks were set ahead. 3. Edward wanted to get involved socially and wanted to do more than just be a silly ornament. He was very much so concerned and yet wasn't sure how to make change since he was not equipped to actually run anything. 4. He ended up making the mistake of hiring the courtiers who had served his late father and as a result, was surrounded by those who preferred to maintain the old ways.
5. Wallis was considered 'unsuitable' because of her previous marriages, despite the fact that she had left one husband who was a wife beater and would have killed her and then there was the fact that her second husband had been poached by another member of her own set. She was also fashionable and dressed better than a market wife. 6. After his abdication the (now) Duke was considered gauche for living a leisurely life despite the fact that he now had the right to live his life as he sought fit. He and Wallis raised money for charity and since Wallis was part of Baltimore society, it was only natural that she would go back to the States and be welcomed there. 7. The new King/Queen needed a reason to justify their being there, despite the fact that the Queen Mother had been instrumental in driving the King off his throne; bashing Edward and Wallis as undutiful was in their view a perfect way of justifying the overthrow.
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Post by Admin on Oct 4, 2020 17:33:05 GMT
Just a little snippet of information about this photograph taken in Canada - a certain famous Canadian photographer took pictures of everyday Canadian life and also photographed royalty, took this picture of Prince Edward (later Edward VIII and the Duke of Windsor) Well, the photographer had two sons. One of the sons lived right next door to my mother when she was a child - and one of his daughters was actually a bridesmaid to my aunt, too. Well, long story short - my Mom was born on Hallowe'en and had a black cat. She was a little cutie (my Mom but the little cat, too, lol) The son who worked in a local paper got my mom and her black cat's picture in the paper. Years later I learn of my apparent relation to Edward VIII (and others), so I think it's rather neat there's a connection here. The son of the man who photographed royalty (and apparently my distant relations) photographed yours truly's beautiful Mom. Small world.  |
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Post by kueifei on Oct 5, 2020 1:26:04 GMT
That is such a cool story.
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Post by Admin on Oct 5, 2020 1:50:27 GMT
That is such a cool story. Thanks. I like to see the inter-connectedness of life, I suppose.  What are the chances of some things, eh? |
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Post by Admin on Oct 7, 2020 13:13:30 GMT
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Post by kueifei on Oct 7, 2020 19:57:08 GMT
I do believe that he was patriotic and duty did mean much, but he was wrong-footed by the very people who were supposed to be supportive to him and frankly put, it is ironic that this most recent line has had stuff happen that even Edward didn't pull. Or would have dreamed of pulling. Like letting his legitimate wife (if he had had one) be overthrown by a mistress or anything of that sort.
You know, if this is true, it would make it odd that the couple was feted by the Nazis that one time. If the governorship of the Bahamas was to keep the couple safe from being snared by Nazi agents, this would in fact make a perfect example as to why Edward was not the sympathizer that everyone thought he was. I also believe that there was more to the visit that Edward made to Nazi Germany. Churchill would not have given Edward that position out of exasperation that he was a dolt.
You know, Churchill's instincts have proven to be correct and I really regret that Edward didn't get to marry Wallis. She grew up mistreated by a lot of people and was always the poorer relation and treated accordingly. It is clear that she left her first husband to avoid getting beaten to death and her second husband ran off with a 'friend' who back-stabbed her. Her affair with Edward VIII was fortuitous in that he came along as her second husband was ready to abandon her.
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Post by Admin on Oct 16, 2020 23:40:46 GMT
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Post by Admin on Oct 16, 2020 23:41:11 GMT
youtu.be/kcYfOWV9Zn0Wallis in Love: The Untold Life of the Duchess of Windsor 105,689 views•26 Apr 2018 "Journalist and celebrity biographer Andrew Morton presents a talk on his latest book, Wallis in Love, that chronicles the tumultuous and controversial relationship between Wallis Simpson and King Edward VIII."
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Post by kueifei on Oct 20, 2020 8:04:16 GMT
Even if Edward hadn't had children, if he had remained on the throne, HM would have had a better, more stable marriage and more time with her children. I also think that with Wallis, he would have introduced a better, more modern court and less paranoia about divorce. Maybe even Margaret could have ended up marrying Townsend and having a happy marriage and children of her own. She would have also had the ability to get a better life for herself, something more stable and focused. Then of course, the Queen Mother would have remained Duchess of York until the death of her husband and would have been dowager Duchess of York, not Queen Mother. Quite honestly, Wallis would have been a good queen and even if she had not been crowned, Edward would have been healthier and more focused on reforms.
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Post by Admin on Nov 14, 2020 15:43:52 GMT
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Post by kueifei on Nov 14, 2020 19:19:02 GMT
Edward was disliked because he wasn't antiseptic and hypocritical. He was young, fresh, vivid, charismatic, and fully a bon vivant who did want to help, but wasn't able to since he was not respected as he should have been and was stymied every step of the way. Then he was overthrown and driven out and eventually vilified to the point where one might have thought he was the reason for WWII even occurring. Wallis was crucified for leaving a wife beater and then her second marriage did not work out, she was blamed for that as well.
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Post by Admin on Nov 14, 2020 19:29:43 GMT
Edward was disliked because he wasn't antiseptic and hypocritical. He was young, fresh, vivid, charismatic, and fully a bon vivant who did want to help, but wasn't able to since he was not respected as he should have been and was stymied every step of the way. Then he was overthrown and driven out and eventually vilified to the point where one might have thought he was the reason for WWII even occurring. Wallis was crucified for leaving a wife beater and then her second marriage did not work out, she was blamed for that as well. I agree. There was always more to the narrative than what was presented. |
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Post by kueifei on Nov 15, 2020 19:21:51 GMT
If Edward VIII had reigned, but not sired children, HM would have had more time to be a wife/mother and her father would have had a happier life. If Edward had sired children, then HM would be a well living country wife with an "HRH" and a ton of kids who would be better turned out rather than what they have become. Granted the Queen Mother would have been the Dowager Duchess of York, but I am certain that it would have been better for all if she had never been the Queen Mother. Whatever Edward's preferences, he was the stronger personality and he would have been able to handle WWII a lot better. Wallis would have been a tough Queen Consort and would have raised mor@le in more substantial ways than otherwise.
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Post by Admin on Nov 18, 2020 3:58:11 GMT
youtu.be/I02fZDd-BBcEdward VIII and Wallis Simpson - Interview with Kenneth Harris (video) 1,991,474 views•9 May 2017
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Post by kueifei on Nov 19, 2020 2:58:38 GMT
Edward was blasted for being a party type, but the entire upper echelon was all about partying. The Queen Mother herself as Duchess of York was not doing onerous royal duties and was not living a demanding schedule. At her time, as Duchess, her job was to have an heir/spare and then enjoy herself. Edward VIII might have enjoyed partying, but he was no different than much of anyone else and quite honestly, his social concern for the poor was very much like Prince Charles, way ahead of his time and regrettably I think he would have proven to be a much tougher king during the war. He would have ended up rising to the occasion and to be honest, he might have impressed everyone. Wallis was tough enough to be a good consort during that time and frankly put, both would have thrived on the challenge of keeping up mor@le in various forms rather than simply wearing a nice frock. Wallis was American society and she had the innate guts that old school American women had at the time. She would have also been smart enough to successfully bond American and Britain together more effectively, quickly, and been able to end up having a lot of support rallied for Churchill, who also had American lineage (and was able to end up getting Britain through WWII). It's not like Wallis wasn't tough and Edward was someone who would have been better than his more fragile brother.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2020 17:26:32 GMT
If Edward VIII had reigned, but not sired children, HM would have had more time to be a wife/mother and her father would have had a happier life. If Edward had sired children, then HM would be a well living country wife with an "HRH" and a ton of kids who would be better turned out rather than what they have become. Granted the Queen Mother would have been the Dowager Duchess of York, but I am certain that it would have been better for all if she had never been the Queen Mother. Whatever Edward's preferences, he was the stronger personality and he would have been able to handle WWII a lot better. Wallis would have been a tough Queen Consort and would have raised mor@le in more substantial ways than otherwise. I really think Wallis was barren. All timelines have a QEII imo. However, I do wonder who her husband would have been if people thought she had no shot the crown. |
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Post by kueifei on Dec 6, 2020 18:10:17 GMT
She might ave had an easier time getting Prince Philip down the aisle. Truth be told, I think Philip would have still married her because she still would have been heiress presumptive and been able to be viewed as unofficially the heiress to the Crown and had a good life. It was that insane vanity of her mother that messed everything up.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2020 18:31:50 GMT
She might ave had an easier time getting Prince Philip down the aisle. Truth be told, I think Philip would have still married her because she still would have been heiress presumptive and been able to be viewed as unofficially the heiress to the Crown and had a good life. It was that insane vanity of her mother that messed everything up. Would they have even met in that timeline? |
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What are the chances of some things, eh? 
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