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Post by Admin on Aug 11, 2020 12:30:23 GMT
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Post by india on Aug 11, 2020 16:42:03 GMT
She was one evil old b*tch.
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Post by kueifei on Aug 26, 2020 19:45:56 GMT
She was instrumental in overthrowing the rightful King Edward VIII and even after he abdicated (and took a terrible PR hit) she hounded him and Wallis nonstop until long after both were dead. Even after Edward VIII ended up living a life that he wanted and didn't really owe anything to the British nation, the Queen Mother and courtiers used WWII as another reason to bash Edward VIII and even had the insanity to get upset about how Wallis lived a luxury life, despite the fact that it wasn't the fault of Wallis that the Blitz was occurring. She then scapegoated Wallis for the death of her husband, despite the fact that it was the fault of smoking and not Wallis that her husband suffered and died from cancer. She did that because she didn't want to bend the knee to anyone. Then she proceeded to allow a mistress to mistreat Diana and allowed the press to abuse Fergie nonstop and sicced the courtiers against Diana even though Diana wasn't the one that had been the mistress. Even after Diana was out and free to live her won life, it was clear that the QM was never going to just live and let live, she insisted that the courtiers keep up the bashing. I mean really, letting a mistress push the wife around, that was out of line.
I can only honestly say that if the QM is in hell, she is being forced to curtsy to Wallis and Edward nonstop while wearing thrift store rejects and living a sparse, monastic life.
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Post by india on Aug 26, 2020 20:45:53 GMT
^ I would love to see the fat old b*tch doing all those things in hell. She was one piece of work and SHE could give The Viper a run for her money.
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Post by Admin on Aug 26, 2020 23:51:22 GMT
^ I would love to see the fat old b*tch doing all those things in hell. She was one piece of work and SHE could give The Viper a run for her money. lol! I love being more "royal" than the both of them.  haha Well, related, anyways.  No, the Gin-Soaked Cookie was not a pleasant being and neither is Snaggle-toothed veloco-viper Council Caro. www.huffpost.com/entry/can-we-finally-tell-the-t_b_299297Can We Finally Tell the Truth About Britain’s Vile ‘Queen Mother’? 11/24/2009 05:12 am ET Updated May 25, 2011 "It must be exhausting to be a monarchist, forever finding ways to pretend a family of cold, talentless snobs are better than the rest of us. They have to make gold out of mud. The system of monarchy — selecting a head of state solely because of the womb they passed through, and surrounding them with sycophants from the moment they emerge — produces warped and dim people, and demands we scrape before them. What’s a poor monarchist to do? They can only lavish a thick cream of adjectives — ‘dignity,’ ‘charm,’ ‘majesty’ — over the Windsor family in the hope that some of us are fooled. This process corrupts even the most intelligent monarchists. A strange case study is the new authorized thousand-plus page biography of Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon , The Queen Mother, by William Shawcross. He is a smart man: his study of the secret bombing of Cambodia by Henry Kissinger is extraordinary. Yet as a monarchist he has an impossible task. He has to present a cruel, bigoted snob who fleeced millions from the British taxpayer as a heroine fit to rule over us. His mind turns to mush. Before the real Bowes-Lyon is lost in a frenzy of royalist rimming, we should remember who she really was: more Imelda Marcos than the good  Glinda." |
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Post by Admin on Aug 27, 2020 0:05:24 GMT
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Post by kueifei on Aug 27, 2020 0:12:26 GMT
You know, if she had required the Queen to get a GENUINE education that royals used to get, I bet you anything that Camilla would NEVER have been married. Also, the Queen Mother never should have been allowed to be some kind of co-monarch with her daughter. She never should have gotten a red box of her own and the Queen Mother should have been ordered out of Buckingham Palace after the death of her husband. Non-negotiable and quite honestly, I am fed up with how she judged Wallis so harshly. Wallis left her first husband because he was beating her and she left to save her life. It's not like Wallis had a family that looked after her as one of their own, she was treated as a second class citizen because he mother wasn't posh enough for their liking. As if divorce to avoid more abuse is something that should be a scandal.
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Post by Admin on Aug 27, 2020 0:12:40 GMT
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Post by Admin on Aug 27, 2020 2:21:56 GMT
You know, if she had required the Queen to get a GENUINE education that royals used to get, I bet you anything that Camilla would NEVER have been married. Also, the Queen Mother never should have been allowed to be some kind of co-monarch with her daughter. She never should have gotten a red box of her own and the Queen Mother should have been ordered out of Buckingham Palace after the death of her husband. Non-negotiable and quite honestly, I am fed up with how she judged Wallis so harshly. Wallis left her first husband because he was beating her and she left to save her life. It's not like Wallis had a family that looked after her as one of their own, she was treated as a second class citizen because he mother wasn't posh enough for their liking. As if divorce to avoid more abuse is something that should be a scandal. The standards of that time were beyond horrendous and hypocritical - a woman with two living husbands? Gasp! Shock! Meanwhile, the upper classes slept around and broke every marriage vow there was. Some literally couldn't figure out who all their children actually WERE, or couldn't be sure about the fathers of their own children. I agree with you, Wallis wasn't such a horrible being and was treated very shabbily - very unfair. She wasn't royal, and yes, that was a time when you literally had to be royal or at least from a very noble family line to marry up.  |
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Post by kueifei on Aug 27, 2020 2:26:02 GMT
You know, Wallis was the American equivalent of royalty and that is how she got so close. Second, women only did as well as their husbands and society women were barred from earning any kind of living. Wallis, like Jackie O., was someone who was groomed to marry and in their eras, earning a living was something that only 'commoners' did. How the Queen Mother thought she was better than Wallis I do not know.
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Post by Admin on Aug 27, 2020 2:35:49 GMT
You know, Wallis was the American equivalent of royalty and that is how she got so close. Second, women only did as well as their husbands and society women were barred from earning any kind of living. Wallis, like Jackie O., was someone who was groomed to marry and in their eras, earning a living was something that only 'commoners' did. How the Queen Mother thought she was better than Wallis I do not know. GSC was not royalty, like Diana was the daughter of an Earl. Noble, but not royal. I wonder if she was projecting some gross insecurities? I posted something above - she didn't even think Prince Philip was good enough - he came from long-standing German, Danish, and Russian (well, mostly German) royal lines, yet she looked down on him. A penniless, exiled Greek prince - I really can only imagine how awful she was in private family life and how she was REALLY viewed in family circles. I never was fond of her - there was just something so "off" about her. I am almost never wrong in my impressions of people. |
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Post by kueifei on Aug 27, 2020 2:40:54 GMT
Philip was looked down on because he was poor; in the US, he would have been considered poor, but genteel and still socially acceptable as a spouse. American women didn't mind that he was poor, he was still viewed as a catch because of his bloodline and good looks and surely he had excellent manners. I am dead sure she had MAJOR insecurities since various other royals looked down on her for being a noble, but considered a commoner. It is kind of regrettable since being a noble isn't some kind of sludge, but is only a step down from royal. Princess Marina looked down on the Queen Mother, but QM couldn't banish her socially.
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Post by Admin on Aug 27, 2020 2:52:45 GMT
Philip was looked down on because he was poor; in the US, he would have been considered poor, but genteel and still socially acceptable as a spouse. American women didn't mind that he was poor, he was still viewed as a catch because of his bloodline and good looks and surely he had excellent manners. I am dead sure she had MAJOR insecurities since various other royals looked down on her for being a noble, but considered a commoner. It is kind of regrettable since being a noble isn't some kind of sludge, but is only a step down from royal. Princess Marina looked down on the Queen Mother, but QM couldn't banish her socially. I completely agree!  Princess Marina was a true snob, but if she cut Cookie to the quick, then good on her! Marina was a Princess of Greece and Denmark and cousin to Philip (for those not aware of that fact). I love to delve into true past royal relations and family life - what they were REALLY like and thought of each other. There's the show for public, and then there's the real show behind closed doors.  |
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Post by kueifei on Aug 27, 2020 3:36:59 GMT
If QM had gone after Camilla with half the wrath she went after Wallis and Diana, I am dead sure the monarchy would be more secure and more stable. Camilla was also in a way mistreated since she was good enough to be a mistress, but not posh enough to be a wife. For some reason, thankfully, the Windsors have never had any rest since Edward VIII was overthrown. I do wish that being noble wasn't condescended in the way that it used to be. Or being gentry. There are a lot of strains on a royal, but it's not like it's work in a mine or doing the work of an actual housekeeper.
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Post by Admin on Oct 16, 2020 22:14:27 GMT
youtu.be/dDONigA6D4AWhy The Queen Mother Never Grew To Like Philip | Behind Palace Doors | Absolute History
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Post by Admin on Oct 16, 2020 22:15:42 GMT
Cookie didn't like loads of people, apparently... youtu.be/YOyYUG-qCJUWhy The Queen Mother Disliked Princess Diana | A Century In 100 Minutes | Absolute History 192,657 views•1 Oct 2020 |
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Post by kueifei on Oct 17, 2020 0:33:17 GMT
She hated people she could not control or domineer over. She hated Philip because he was not controllable and she hated Diana because Diana was not controllable.
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Post by Admin on Nov 14, 2020 15:23:36 GMT
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Post by Admin on Nov 14, 2020 15:25:17 GMT
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Post by kueifei on Nov 14, 2020 19:14:36 GMT
There is no humanity in that family. None whatsoever.
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haha Well, related, anyways. 
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