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Post by Admin on Nov 14, 2020 19:44:00 GMT
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Post by kueifei on Nov 19, 2020 2:59:41 GMT
This is disgusting. I think THIS is the reason that the BRF is upset at this season of "The Crown."
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Post by Admin on Nov 19, 2020 3:02:31 GMT
This is disgusting. I think THIS is the reason that the BRF is upset at this season of "The Crown."
Yup. The Cookie crumbles...  Even if there is some artistic licence to be taken (there would have to be,eh?), she's not going to come out smelling like roses. Her reputation was just. too. perfect. Na uh...she was the balls and brass behind that family. |
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Post by kueifei on Nov 19, 2020 12:42:46 GMT
She was the balls and brass behind that family, but in the wrong way. She worked to overthrow the rightful king, she vilified him/Wallis nonstop until the day she died. She then proceeded to enable adultery and didn't go after the mistress after it became clear that Camilla was trying to overthrow Diana; she domineered her daughter the Queen in a way that prevented HM from growing up and taking charge properly as Sovereign; she spent like crazy and had a horrific overdraft at the time of her death and had no problems with Andrew's pedophilia. She spent her entire life grabbing after as much power as she could and it is clear that she never did learn the kind of compassion that she should have as a Christian and human being.
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Post by Admin on Apr 4, 2021 18:00:23 GMT
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Post by india on Apr 4, 2021 22:06:50 GMT
The short fat Queen Mother was jealous of anything and everybody.
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Post by kueifei on Apr 10, 2021 13:38:19 GMT
It's a real shame that the Queen Mother was so full of jealousy and hate. I find it annoying that the Queen Mother was adulated and had the best of everything her whole life, but it was never enough. Just being the consort of the second son would secure her for life and enjoy an undemanding existence and then even after that, she never stopped lashing out at Edward, despite the fact that Edward never owed her a ring or romance. Then there was the fact that even after that man's death, the QM never let up on him and never ended up leaving him and Wallis in peace. Then there was how she domineered over HM and likely set up a faction to make Philip's life miserable and it is clear that HM wasn't really able to grow into a more authoritative monarch as a result of QM's domineering ways.
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Post by Admin on Apr 10, 2021 14:04:20 GMT
The short fat Queen Mother was jealous of anything and everybody. Is it a crime to be short?  |
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Post by india on Apr 10, 2021 14:09:33 GMT
No, but in her case in was considering everything about her.
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Post by Admin on Apr 10, 2021 15:31:06 GMT
No, but in her case in was considering everything about her. haha! Just teasing. |
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Post by kueifei on Apr 10, 2021 19:30:27 GMT
I wonder what it would be like to live with that kind of jealousy and hate and resentment and a perverse determination to make oneself front/center like pretty much any other out of control diva. What I find bitterly ironic, is the fact that if Wallis had become Queen Consort, the US might have allied with the UK in WWII a lot sooner since the American upper class would have done a LOT for Wallis' sake to make sure of a supportive alliance a lot sooner. Of course, the Queen Mother only thought of her own vanity.
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Post by Admin on May 28, 2021 23:27:05 GMT
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Post by kueifei on Jun 22, 2021 17:28:43 GMT
How typically middle class; stigmatizing someone because they do not come from the most stable situation. Philip did not choose his family and he should NEVER have been looked down on. He was poor, but genteel and fully royal since they are psychotically fixated on bloodlines. He was not some cheap hustler and he was not someone who was a user. He was just someone who had nothing and no one and that was not his fault. I also think that it is clear that given what an incendiary witch the Queen Mother was, its' no wonder the dynasty got so messed up along the way. I also dislike the limiting influence she was on the social mores of monarchy and aristocracy and it is a HUGE fatal flaw that she wanted to live so grandly and unrealistically. The grand imperial ways and perspectives damaged the Queen's ability to adapt to a more streamlined standard and quite frankly, damaged the willingness of modern royals to be less narcissistic and grow up beyond this fixation that a certain status entitles a person to a specific standard of living. I see this here in the States all the time; the American middle class is highly narcissistic about professions and are pathologically loathing of wanting to get practical trade skills and stop taking out loans/credit to sustain a lifestyle that is way out of their actual means.
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Post by Admin on Jul 23, 2021 15:37:42 GMT
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Post by kueifei on Oct 20, 2021 5:37:39 GMT
No one owed her a ring anyway, least of all Edward VIII. As king, he was right to want someone more sophisticated and worldly and Wallis fit the bill. Edward VIII never owed her marriage, or a relationship, and he would certainly not have owed her obedience and deference to run things as she saw fit. I also think that QM was someone who was out of line likely because of her very grand attitude. Not all guys go for that. Why did anyone have to marry her anyway? Why would a royal prince HAVE to marry Lady Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon? It's not like she was owed anything in life.
What IS IT with this recent view that only a simple, middle class type can make a prince or a princess happy?
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Post by india on Oct 22, 2021 1:08:16 GMT
I really do not think that is a thing. Just a figment of the low life press pushing that forward.
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Post by kueifei on Oct 23, 2021 23:41:40 GMT
Like Diana, the QM thought that her family prominence entitled her to her idea of what she believed she was entitled to. Diana felt entitled to look down on the man who gave her her HRH and QM thought that she was entitled to be married to and domineer over a future king who would shortly later be king himself. I think it shows just how messed up that family became when the princes chose middling aristocrats instead of more cosmopolitan personalities. I believe that if Charles had married more a woman of the world Camilla would still be a mistress and if Bertie had married a foreign heiress or protestant princess from a foreign nation, a lot of things would have been much better, of that I am sure.
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Post by cheryl on Nov 21, 2021 23:42:00 GMT
The Queen Mother was a drunk and a gambler who spoiled Charles.
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Post by Admin on Dec 30, 2021 0:10:34 GMT
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Post by kueifei on Dec 30, 2021 14:07:37 GMT
The Queen Mother was a drunk and a gambler who spoiled Charles.
She also overthrew a rightful king; have to give her credit for destructiveness.
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tale BS.
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