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Post by Admin on Jun 4, 2021 17:14:43 GMT
They saw Kate and Carole for the grifters that they are. I am glad that at least the aristos do not let the Midds push them around. Shame on those not protecting the Institution and their ancestors' legacy and contributions, too. That the current Establishment seemingly allows this degradation due to catering to their prize bully/most pathetic representative to date (William) essentially doing his mother-in-law's bidding is beyond the pale. No words for what Bill has allegedly allowed to happen to his family, the country and Commonwealth, and last by certainly not least, the Monarchy. Threw away everything...and for what? I think we all know the answer. A beyond epic nightmare. |
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Post by kueifei on Jun 4, 2021 17:42:48 GMT
William threw it all way for 'normalcy' and wanting to live the life of an unaccountable trust fund brat. He also ended up throwing away decade's worth of chances on a pack of cheap upstarts. Nobodies who are nothing and contribute nothing. I do not think that Carole 'gets it' that her pushy impatience is her undoing. Carole of course thought that William could force a match, but the reality is that he couldn't and no family wanted to support the Middleton family at all.
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Post by Admin on Jun 5, 2021 3:21:46 GMT
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Post by Admin on Jun 5, 2021 3:24:52 GMT
 Aside: Or for a certain alleged fake royal grandmother to false heirs aiming to enrich her family off the public purse? So it's been said?   |
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Post by Admin on Jun 5, 2021 14:54:30 GMT
www.celebitchy.com/717828/gary_goldsmith_kate_is_a_brilliant_arbiter_and_as_always_a_keen_peacemaker/Aside: Some comments here focussing on Carole...Some real zingers. Bravo! Woke says: June 3, 2021 at 8:10 am I simply think Carole lost control of Gary. There was something that was keeping Gary in check and it’s no longer there. Either now has the upper hand or he has nothing to lose now. I don’t think it has anything to do with the Sussexes it’s just they are a convenient scapegoat. Reply swirlmamad says: June 3, 2021 at 8:33 am I agree with this. Somehow I just can’t imagine that Carole, who by all accounts is ALLLL about carefully cultivating a very specific image, is completely fine with her shady-a## brother running his mouth all the time, and saying off color things about Charles to boot. She seems too controlling to just let him steer the ship rather be the mouthpiece herself, whether directly or through “sources”. Something is not right.Reply pottymouth pup says: June 3, 2021 at 8:46 am the upper hand would have to be against William, wouldn’t it? Otherwise, if this is not what William wants Gary to be doing, wouldn’t the firm be trying to shut it down?Reply Woke says: June 3, 2021 at 8:51 am I think the upper hand may be he found out about the true state of the cambridge’s marriage. Mac says: June 3, 2021 at 10:34 am Or he may have the under hand. If Carole’s pot farm is making serious money she doesn’t need Gary anymore and he may be acting out because he is angry or jealous that he is no longer the rich brother everyone relies on. notasugarhere says: June 3, 2021 at 8:53 am I think he’s acting under Carole’s command. She has done her own pro-Kate, anti-Meghan campaign for four years. It was blatant and obvious. By having Gary be the mouthpiece now? Carole can get her message across, while convincing some people she had nothing to do with it.Reply Nic919 says: June 3, 2021 at 10:03 am I agree. Carole can get the media to stop talking to him or at least stop publishing the stories. She chooses not to stop this because she approves.Amy Too says: June 3, 2021 at 8:57 am That’s interesting. I wonder if Carole used to keep him quiet and in the background with her promise that she would manage everything to do with the Kate-William relationship and the PR aspect of it all, and now Gary is seeing that Carole has lost the plot and isn’t as effective anymore because William is on the verge of dumping Kate. So he’s going in now to try to keep everything together himself. I think just the fact that he’s obviously willing to talk so much and so often—and to say outrageous things about how the Queen should retire and Charles should be skipped, and some pretty blatant anti-Harry and Meghan stuff—might be his way of threatening William into keeping Kate around and/or being a better husband (move back in with her, look less like he hates her, make another baby, stop cheating, prop up party pieces, whatever it is that the Middletons want from him). Because uncle Gary knows a lot about William. Wasn’t he providing them with places to party, places to vacation, drugs, and money in the early years? Possibly other women for William? Maybe some “financial advising” for Will in the form of some shady investments/money laundering? I’m sure he knows plenty of unsavory things about William and everyone would like it much better if he just kept quiet. Or maybe he just knows that he’s such an unsavory relation for a FFK and knows that Will would probably much rather Gary stay in the background. I do wonder if Carole has completely lost control of everything and that’s why Gary is out here now chatting and doing his own thing. Kate and Carole still have a lot to lose and may have lost their leverage with Will: they still have their reputations, people still believe in Party Pieces, questions aren’t being asked about that mysterious pot farm, they’re desperate to be accepted and social climb, nobody wants to lose William and the FFQ position and I’m sure they don’t want to lose terribly moderately wealthy James either, plus they need money and William has it. But Gary doesn’t have much to lose, does he? He already doesn’t have a great reputation, he already has a criminal record, everyone knows he’s shady and gross and his secrets aren’t really secrets anymore, and he has all the money he could ever need. I’m sure he’d like to maintain his family’s connection to the RF so he’s out here working it trying to get through to William, but his entire life trajectory and personal fulfillment aren’t tied up in Kate being Queen so he can afford to be less subtle and more risky in his attempts to bully/shame/remind/poke William. Reply Snuffles says: June 3, 2021 at 9:09 am @amytoo Interesting thoughts. I can see over the years Uncle Gary hooking William up with hookers and blow. Kate happily looking the other way as long as she got that ring. I could also see the Middletons talking William into investing in some failed business ventures and giving them money to pay for their home. It’s quite possible that the Middletons leached all of William’s inheritance from Diana. It’s possible he’s personally broke and is 100% reliant on The Crown funds. Which would explain why he’s so keen to skip the line and get his hands on that Duchy money. The Middletons too.
I’m sure the Middletons have a ton of dirt on him and they are trying to remind him of that. But any good PR guru could lay the blame on the Middletons by labeling them social climbing grifters who manipulated a vulnerable William who was still lost due to the death of his mother.
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Post by kueifei on Jun 5, 2021 15:17:48 GMT
I think the thing is with Carole, is that she no longer has her old stamina. I said this a few years ago, that Carole would not have gotten Kate that ring if she had not had the youthful stamina that she did. I realize now that Carole has been betting on William getting that family titles and money and good matches, but it didn't happen. Thing is, that Carole can't keep going like this without burning out. No one can. Look at how the campaign wore Kate's looks out and how Carole ended up getting really flaky during the time between Kate's announcement and the actual wedding itself. Carole really did think that it would be easy, but it wasn't and so Carole had to work on William to get Pippa married off. Now there is James, but Carole doesn't have the stamina to market James and William is no longer so easily influenced.
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Post by Admin on Jun 6, 2021 14:52:20 GMT
I think the thing is with Carole, is that she no longer has her old stamina. I said this a few years ago, that Carole would not have gotten Kate that ring if she had not had the youthful stamina that she did. I realize now that Carole has been betting on William getting that family titles and money and good matches, but it didn't happen. Thing is, that Carole can't keep going like this without burning out. No one can. Look at how the campaign wore Kate's looks out and how Carole ended up getting really flaky during the time between Kate's announcement and the actual wedding itself. Carole really did think that it would be easy, but it wasn't and so Carole had to work on William to get Pippa married off. Now there is James, but Carole doesn't have the stamina to market James and William is no longer so easily influenced. True. I think there was a period when she assumed it would be smooth-sailing and she got an "in", but the last while, I believe the last few years, she's had to ramp up the campaign once again. And who has that much energy to continually having to promote oneself and one's family? The continual PR campaign would be so exhausting. Maybe it wouldn't have been such a trial if her daughter got the ring by true, honest and reputable means, and her daughter got off her selfish, lazy behind and did something with her life, but here we are. We are seeing the natural conclusion of a campaign of lies, subterfuge and deceit. We all pay for our choices, and Carole certainly is. Maybe having less untalented, uncommitted and failed children could have helped a bit, but not much. But I don't think only Carole should have to pay the piper for all the lies and bullying behaviour up to date. William freely allowed this to happen and in an honest, upfront world should have to give up his privileges and titles for the good of the country and Monarchy. If he was a selfless, well-meaning man who actually cared for his family and the Monarchy, he would voluntarily step down. Like any political leader, for instance, would do if they lost the confidence of the electorate, etc. But no, he doesn't have the character or mindset to think in these terms - it's all about him. |
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Post by romilly on Jun 12, 2021 14:59:08 GMT
With so many champing at the bit to release the truth about the Midds and their alleged campaign to ensnare Willy and he dumb enough to be taken in, he will have much explaining to do and no one will want such a disreputable bunch anywhere near the Monarchy. Many predicting however that the Monarchy won’t last beyond Charles if that.
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Post by kueifei on Jun 12, 2021 19:15:18 GMT
I think the thing is with Carole, is that she no longer has her old stamina. I said this a few years ago, that Carole would not have gotten Kate that ring if she had not had the youthful stamina that she did. I realize now that Carole has been betting on William getting that family titles and money and good matches, but it didn't happen. Thing is, that Carole can't keep going like this without burning out. No one can. Look at how the campaign wore Kate's looks out and how Carole ended up getting really flaky during the time between Kate's announcement and the actual wedding itself. Carole really did think that it would be easy, but it wasn't and so Carole had to work on William to get Pippa married off. Now there is James, but Carole doesn't have the stamina to market James and William is no longer so easily influenced. True. I think there was a period when she assumed it would be smooth-sailing and she got an "in", but the last while, I believe the last few years, she's had to ramp up the campaign once again. And who has that much energy to continually having to promote oneself and one's family? The continual PR campaign would be so exhausting. Maybe it wouldn't have been such a trial if her daughter got the ring by true, honest and reputable means, and her daughter got off her selfish, lazy behind and did something with her life, but here we are. We are seeing the natural conclusion of a campaign of lies, subterfuge and deceit. We all pay for our choices, and Carole certainly is. Maybe having less untalented, uncommitted and failed children could have helped a bit, but not much. But I don't think only Carole should have to pay the piper for all the lies and bullying behaviour up to date. William freely allowed this to happen and in an honest, upfront world should have to give up his privileges and titles for the good of the country and Monarchy. If he was a selfless, well-meaning man who actually cared for his family and the Monarchy, he would voluntarily step down. Like any political leader, for instance, would do if they lost the confidence of the electorate, etc. But no, he doesn't have the character or mindset to think in these terms - it's all about him.
William was not raised to think of others.
He was raised to think of himself in the context of a FFK and not where he currently was and he was raised with expectations, that led to a sense of entitlement. Then there is the fact that he EXPECTED that the world would wait on him and not go on and after his marriage, he thought he and Kate would automatically launch, but didn't. Mainly since he had nothing to stand on. Carole made the mistake of believing that the "HRH" has power even if it has nothing to back it up. William's titles have no substance and do not have the magic it briefly had. It is clear that Carole is smart in regards ot street smarts, but not anywhere else. She has the mindset of a madam, who thinks that the best looks can get the best guy and it is not that way at all. Kate has mediocre looks and a HUGE reason that Carole 'won' with Kate, is because of a media culture that quite frankly refuses to grow beyond the 80's and 90's. That era is over, but the mindset of those who are still working in there still remains. It is clear at least to me that Carole did not factor in that the high nobs and even gentry do not completely rely on the crown for work and income and therefore William can't outright order anyone to marry the rest of the trash pack.
BOT, Carole refuses to accept that the world has changed and it's not like anyone wants to be ordered about by her and no one in the decent set want anything to do with her airs and graces and condescension. I also think that she is at a point where a great many others are fed up with her BS and just want her to SHUT UP and get out of their faces. No one wants to hear about her stupid business and no one wants to hear about her joy of her titled grand-kids and no one wants to marry her moron son. No one wants to hear about her, or from her, and if she's been freeloading off of the royals/taxpayers, that should be put a stop to now. She isn't royal and never will be and she has no business living with her daughter or having her daughter live with her.
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Post by india on Jun 12, 2021 20:21:54 GMT
Thoroughly Unlikable Horrid Viper.
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Post by romilly on Jun 19, 2021 8:38:38 GMT
There is an article in today’s DM (see thread) where willy boy accuses Megs of having an agenda. Much on social media laughing at and deriding Carol as it’s known everywhere that she had the biggest agenda ever ie hers was alleged to have been to stalk and reel dumb willy in, yet he still can’t see it!!
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Post by india on Jun 19, 2021 14:30:55 GMT
I bet The Cone Head Willy is beginning to see it.
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Post by Admin on Jun 19, 2021 15:51:14 GMT
I bet The Cone Head Willy is beginning to see it. But he's a stubborn you know what - he brought this all about. We'll see... |
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Post by india on Jun 19, 2021 18:23:15 GMT
It's obvious that he does. He's got a terminal case of the clench jaw around the Lumpy Faced Potato Head. She obviously irritates the hell out of him. And as easily manipulated as he is, he's got to see what a master controller that The Slit Eyed Viper is.
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Post by Admin on Jun 20, 2021 17:19:57 GMT
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Post by india on Jun 20, 2021 17:51:36 GMT
UGH
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Post by romilly on Jun 20, 2021 19:46:37 GMT
That frightful crone Carol jumps on to every bandwagon
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Post by Admin on Jun 30, 2021 1:49:33 GMT
www.celebitchy.com/721442/carole_middleton_is_prince_williams_second_mum_she_makes_him_feel_protected/Carole Middleton is Prince William’s ‘second mum,’ she makes him feel ‘protected’ June 29, 2021 By Kaiser Carole Middleton, Prince William, Royals Have some sympathy for Carole Middleton, you guys. She’s watching her twenty-year project circle the drain. She played everything brilliantly, mothering Prince William, encouraging him to rest his head in her lap and persuading Kate to be keen. It worked for so long and now it seems to be slipping away. The pot farm was raided, Carole is out in the media, hustling and busting her a## to protect Brand Middleton and her business is losing millions of pounds. And worst of all, William seems really over ALL of it. Even his precious Carole. So what can Carole do? She can run to Angela Levin to remind William that she (Carole) is the only mother he’s had for twenty years.
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Post by Admin on Jun 30, 2021 1:52:44 GMT
www.celebitchy.com/721442/carole_middleton_is_prince_williams_second_mum_she_makes_him_feel_protected/Some interesting points:Yvette says: June 29, 2021 at 12:58 pm What I want to know is how is this not casting shade at Charles and the Royal Family?? All Harry said in the interview is that he wanted to raise his kids better than his parents raised him and better than his parents were raised, and he was raked over the coals for insulting his father and the Queen. This article is dissing the heck out of Diana and contributing it to Carole Middleton with William’s approval. How is this not the same as what they accused Harry of? Reply Lionel says: June 29, 2021 at 2:56 pm Because it’s shade toward Diana, not the future King or current Queen. Diana = rebellion against the Monarchy = Harry, which is totally acceptable to the tabloids. PlainJane says: June 29, 2021 at 4:15 pm @yvette-excellent point! Hypocrisy at its finest. Bunny says: June 29, 2021 at 6:49 pm Of course Carole & her family are trashing Charles and the Queen. It is what they do and who they are. Just a few days after Prince Phillip died, remember Uncle Gary saying that Kate should be the next Queen? The actual Queen was mourning her husband and Charles was mourning his father when Uncle Gary said that Kate was ready to rule and deserved to be next. Kate must be embiggened at all costs, regardless of the time, the place, or the occasion. It is sickening.
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Post by india on Jun 30, 2021 1:54:36 GMT
The Viper is obviously losing her grip. Sort of insane if you ask me. She's really pressing her luck. I hope her little Willy Boy blows her out of the water.
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tale BS.
#JamesMiddleton