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Post by Admin on Nov 10, 2020 22:36:30 GMT
I think it may be William's influence that may have helped, too - don't think the courtiers are very fond of him, and they are just doing the jobs they were hired to do. Who knows? All in all, a very tacky move to stop a wreath from being placed for fallen soldiers. Like give it a rest for one day! Thing is the courtiers don’t seem to be very good at their job and typically when you suck at your job you get sacked. Oh, they are good.
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Post by kueifei on Nov 10, 2020 23:02:40 GMT
I think it may be William's influence that may have helped, too - don't think the courtiers are very fond of him, and they are just doing the jobs they were hired to do. Who knows? All in all, a very tacky move to stop a wreath from being placed for fallen soldiers. Like give it a rest for one day! Thing is the courtiers don’t seem to be very good at their job and typically when you suck at your job you get sacked.
The courtiers are the reason, the ONLY reason that the BRF has lasted this long.
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Post by touchstonemomma on Nov 11, 2020 1:38:22 GMT
Thing is the courtiers don’t seem to be very good at their job and typically when you suck at your job you get sacked.
The courtiers are the reason, the ONLY reason that the BRF has lasted this long.
Well not sure how long that will last. They did let Kate in....
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Post by kueifei on Nov 11, 2020 2:05:23 GMT
William proposed, HM let the wedding go through, and I think the courtiers were having seizures and stress-related breakouts. After the announcement, after the ring was seen on Kate's finger, there was no way that it would be stopped without a huge backlash and HM didn't have the stamina to withstand that backlash and get back control of the situation.
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Post by kueifei on Dec 3, 2020 19:01:05 GMT
Robert Lacey: It’s ‘quite likely’ that the Sussexes will ‘forfeit’ their HRH titles in 2021
I really resent how there is this belief that an "HRH" can be lifted on whim. The ONLY reason that Diana and Fergie lost their "HRH" nimbus is because they were consorts and in the particular case of Diana, she publicly advocated overthrowing Charles and during divorce proceedings, kept trying to control everything in relation to the divorce proceedings/protocol and also repeatedly challenged HM publicly that HM got fed up and stripped Diana of it. Harry was born with it and since Meg is still married to Harry, she will not lose hers either. This isn't something that would end up being done unless something got pulled that put the monarch in danger or the British nation in overt danger and even then, there would have to be proceedings to decide how that kind of situation would be handled.
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Post by Admin on Dec 27, 2020 19:31:02 GMT
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Post by kueifei on Dec 28, 2020 1:38:39 GMT
No one is owed any images of Archie. Meg and Harry are allowed to cut that part out of the life of their son.
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Post by Admin on Dec 28, 2020 20:27:38 GMT
No one is owed any images of Archie. Meg and Harry are allowed to cut that part out of the life of their son.
Quite frankly, there is very little interest despite what some of Meghan's woked up fans want to think. More important things people are focusing on.
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Post by Admin on Dec 28, 2020 20:42:21 GMT
www.celebitchy.com/694440/the_sussexes_want_to_broker_an_extension_on_their_sussexit_one-year_review/I quite frankly am losing my patience with them all - I think all 4 need to be locked in some room and have it out with each other and the last one standing can seriously still go to h@ll. FED UP. And no Kaiser (if you are a female that should really be Kaiserin, but you are just a gossip writer, right?) Anyhoo...who is Queen Meghan to really force her terms on anybody? Nobody is giving you all you want? Too, too, too bad, toots. You have to make each and every situation another last minute act to your drama. Get over yourself, girl, because you aren't in high demand and seem to have received a lot in life not being especially talented or educated, and known to have toxic relationships with those who you have used and discarded. We know you are calling all the shots: trying to piggyback on the back of the most famous monarchy in the world. You are out of your league, girl. Crying racism when you dont get your way is just pathetic. Those who support this victim act are just as pathetic in their own ways. Stop using your alleged kid as a bargaining tool, too. A real mother wouldn't do that. Yes, I am venting. More to come...
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Post by kueifei on Dec 28, 2020 22:29:24 GMT
Harry and Meg had ALL THIS and they are throwing it away to be New Age flakes. To me, the REAL problem is that Meg refuses to operate within bounds and Harry is just a simp who refuses to man up and make choices independent of needing a strong woman in his life. I will never understand or respect Meg's choices. She had position is VP of that Commonwealth trust and that should have been MORE than enough and MORE than anyone would need to have that worldwide connection. I think her biggest problem is her need to be the dominant one, the 'in charge' one who doesn't have to answer to anyone. She's doing Spotify and Netflix and she's grabbing after one deal after another and it is clear that Meg and Harry are plain nuts to think that the Palace will renegotiate anything with them. There is nothing to negotiate. It was all agreed upon and they can't have it both ways. This isn't about a wreath, but about 'double dipping' and no one has the right to have royal patronages and taxpayer supported titles and fat commercial deals in the US. It is completely incompatible and I wish the palace had really gone things over with Harry without William around and really had a long, LONG series of talks that got into Harry's head and there hadn't been ANY public announcement until EVERYTHING had been worked out accordingly. Meg was not a good influence on Harry since it was likely she that suggested pulling a fast one and it is clear that she has been miking this for all it's worth. She's made fat deals with fat checks and it is clear though that she can't stop herself from going after one deal after another and not focusing on all that she already has. It is also clear that she is becoming more and more unstable and pushing for more and more and more power/perks that she is not (and never will be) entitled to. This is out of line. There is nothing to renegotiate. She is not entitled to more and there is nothing left for her in the UK. She and Harry cannot have it both ways and it is clear that she (Meg) is just trying to get more out of the BRF.
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Post by sanka on Dec 29, 2020 5:35:22 GMT
^ agree Kuei Fei that they can't have it both ways but I think they certainly think they are entitled to - what MM wants she gets and it doesn't matter how she gets it.
I was under the impression that they did not want the 12 months (cooling off period/review etc) during the initial negotiations. Now they want to extend it. Things have certainly not gone as planned and they have not made their millions yet nor has MM become 'No. 1'. I suspect they need the additional 12 months for some of 2021 events that will ensure their Netflix contract is fulfilled, e.g. Prince Philip's birthday etc. I lost patience with this duo ages ago and MM is certainly the one pushing for her name to be associated with as many issues as possible. I suppose she has to get as much exposure as possible in case things do not work out with PH over the coming years (based on her track record).
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Post by kueifei on Dec 29, 2020 6:43:52 GMT
Is Meg incapable of just settling into life and getting to work and not screwing up or pushing for more? She's pushing her luck big time and it is clear that she is unaware that this is not hers to control, it's the Queen's. Meg threw away that Commonwealth role that was handed to her and Harry and it is clear that she is out for all she can get in order to feather her nest and it is clear that Harry is just a hapless puppet in her hands. She is using him more and more blatantly and throwing away so many advantages and it is clear that there are a lot of increasing problems related to Meg's inability to leave well enough alone. She got all she wants and she is now trying to kind of 'take the palace to court' and play hardball with people who do not view any of this as any kind of game. She's frustrating since she is so out of control and increasingly delusional. She's never satisfied and never content and it is clear that Harry is unable to properly process his new reality. She isn't looking after him and she isn't ever going to be the top Alpha female that she craves. She hasn't been taken advantage of by the palace or press at the time of her marriage and it is clear that she is trying too hard to make her father, the press, and the world pay for her grievances. Harry recently sued and won, but backed off. Meg is suing and dragging out a court case and hasn't won and is blowing cash that she can't afford to waste on another lawsuit. She is trying to make her latest narrative happen and it is clear that she is struggling to accept that this is as far as she may very well go in life. It's not like she's someone the press is going to actively hound and she is NOT the late Princess of Wales. I am shocked that she threw the Commonwealth role away since that was a perfect global platform and it is clear that she just is out of control. It is clear that she is ignoring Harry and if she pushes the palace too far, she will trigger a reaction. She really can't just chill.
If I were a worker and someone called me at five in the morning, with tons of suggestions, I believe that I would be homicidal. Ingrid Seward (who I admit I agree with on occasion) said that Meg needed to chill, and it is true. Meg is behaving almost like a hellbent, devil may care heroine and it is clear that she is determined to live a life of excitement, but she is clearly someone who is living a life that is spiraling out of control. By attempting to hardball the palace with a suddenly new extension, it is clear she is trying to take control of Harry's relationship with the palace and it is clear to me that there is nothing to take control of. It is also clear that she is trying to set up some kind of negotiation process that has nothing to do with cooling off and coming back to talk wholeheartedly about everything. Meg is constantly misinterpreting and disrupting the process. I thought that the cooling off period was about just falling back and after a year, deciding how things might be worked out. Not about using the connection to get more swag and then deciding to ask for some kind of extension of palace protection and support. This isn't about enabling Meg to get more protection/support until her Netflix deal works out and it is clear that Meg is perversely determined to behave as if she's entitled to bash the BRF in the media via that asinine book and speeches that are loaded with innuendo. She is misinterpreting (as usual) the intent of the cooling off period, which is to let all involved parties calm down, separate, and hopefully stabilize the situation to make it more manageable and for there to be some kind of setup formed so everyone can go about their business and get on with things.
If I were HM, I would have used that cooling off period to empower the courtiers to get the Cambs in line and put a stop to all the factionalism. I would have also ordered MI5/6 to put a STOP to the constant media warfare and if needed, used intimidation and strong-arm tactics to get a grip on all the media warfare and constant trouble-making on both sides. HM foolishly lives life as if every major change is just some temporary blip and will go away after a little fuss. She didn't take Diana's death/reaction seriously and she didn't at all get rid of the Middletons after surely finding out about their bad characters. She never deals with a real threat until it is too late and the situations are out of control. HM has entire militaries at her fingertips and she refuses to use it. Or she uses it against the wrong people. If she would for once, just stop letting people run over her, she would end up better off and more in control. She (for some reason) refuses to just stop the chaos and stop the out of control behavior on all sides. All she has to do is hire experts who are GOOD at setting people straight and they would do it with zeal. It disgusts me that during what should have been downtime has only been an escalating situation and it's not just the Cambs, but Meg who is addicted to feeding her need for drama while Harry passively sits back and lets Meg run his life into the ground. Even if Harry and Meg were living quietly, the Cambs are always making it clear that Harry is welcome back on THEIR terms, as if William is already reigning monarch. As if Harry is supposed to come back BEGGING and prostrate, not just welcomed back after a bad blowup and time where he needed to get away and clear things up without the craziness of the media and inside drama.
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Post by Admin on Dec 29, 2020 15:56:31 GMT
As long as the Palace is going to ignore the real reasons (right, Council Carol, because they are aware of them!) these dysfunctional games are going to continue.
Again so fed up with all of them - the increasing demands/escalations of behaviour and the usual non-resolutions. The Press (non-Camb/Sussex) are restricted what they can say and write so it's very easy to make them a convenient scapegoat. The two camps are really just fighting each other with everybody else just caught up in the crosshairs.
Yes, this should have been tended to years ago, but they (Cambs & Sussexes) are forcing it into the public domain as usual - trying to get sympathy and public sentiment on their camp's side. They are misusing and abusing the Monarchy and enough is enough.
The courtiers are no doubt restricted what they can say or do and it must be very frustrating for them. I feel for them.
What the Palace is trying to cover up or support just isnt worth it - the entire institution is being brought down and it's high time HM brought in a true (but legal) remedy to finally fix things. If not, it will be left to Charles. And believe it or not, Carol and friends, you cant play him as a fiddle.
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Post by kueifei on Dec 30, 2020 1:37:16 GMT
Thing is, this isn't a game. This is affecting geopolitics, diplomacy, and to a limited extent, the world economy. Ever since Kate married in, there has been one round of trouble and disruption after another and it is clear that Kate has shown herself to be unable to amiably coexist. Her disgusting behavior towards Harry has likely been bad and likely worse behind closed doors. She's been at odds with one member of the BRF after another and it is clear that the BRF is horribly fractured. It is also clear that William is just as disturbed and delusional as his mother was and it is clear that he is having issues controlling his wife mainly since his wife is the kind of person that has no boundaries and no sense of people as individuals instead of pawns to be used. It is clear that the Midds will not stop trying to dominate and control and with William they have succeeded and it is clear that Meg has only escalated things since Meg, with her sense of self preservation, likes to fight back rather than passively accept abuse as Harry has. Regrettably, Harry can't control Meg's need for gain and drama and it's not like Meg would listen anyway since she is determined to do it all her way. She is as addicted to drama as Diana was.
I honestly believe that there will be a crash, burn, and eventual upheaval.
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Post by Admin on Dec 31, 2020 16:46:53 GMT
www.celebitchy.com/694886/the_sun_ran_a_racist_front_page_headline_about_the_duchess_of_sussex_archie/Aside: Know what a nappy is, Kaiser? Something pathetic about making something out of nothing..."For years now, two huge things have been happening simultaneously in the UK press regarding the Duchess of Sussex: 1) the tabloid press has thrown racist tropes, racist dog-whistles and flat-out racist sh-t at Meghan, Harry and Archie and 2) the British media has denied that they’ve been at all racist in their coverage, gaslighting the Sussexes and acting as if the Sussexes are crazy for even suggesting that the treatment they’ve gotten in the media is in any way unfair, racist or disgusting. Remember that Rebecca English article in the Mail? Well, the Sun wanted to one-up that sh-t. So this is their cover today (above). Racist as f–k. And just like Becky English’s use of “niggling” months ago, they absolutely, 100% know what they’re doing." Aside: Get a life, Kaiser. Seriously, you go way. too. far.
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Post by kueifei on Jan 1, 2021 5:45:00 GMT
I do think that Meg and Harry would be better off outside of California and Harry should be removed (with Archie) to a quiet place while Meg goes on her rampage against the world. Then once Meg crashes/burns (looks likelier by the day), then Harry can heal from his problems, Meg can get treatment or put away, and somehow some kind of stability can be restored. Meg is not healthy for Harry and it is clear that Meg is on a bad downward spiral. She ain't healthy and she is not LETTING the palace reconfigure anything. This recent stunt of trying to 'renegotiate' the original agreement was not a divorce settlement and it was not meant to be done as a permanent break initially. It was supposed to be a cooling off period where both sides would back off from one another and chill and let the Court set it all straight. Instead Meg went into fully blown hyperactive, blasting the palace and grubbing after deals and decided that it would be a permanent break, not a brief spell apart and a long talk at the end of the year on how the situation could be handled. She can't stop trying to take control, do it all her way, and just LET people get on with things. I honestly think that Meg is in a final downward spiral and it will get very ugly, very fast. Harry is a domesticated cat living with a cat that has been a stray for far too long. It is also clear that Meg has SERIOUS control issues that need to be addressed big time. That issue about trying to revamp the system or calling up someone at five in the morning should show that she has no sense of boundaries or sense of stability. If anyone called me at five in the morning, I wouldn't respond since I would be busy sleeping and I would probably have my phone off. I do know that it would be better to have just chilled and quietly spent time in California or maybe the forest to enjoy nature, but Meg wants Hollywood and Harry is clearly not processing anything straightforwardly anymore.
As for CB, I do not read the Meg posts mainly since I think the headlines are funny, but I am sick of reading how Meg is being victimized yet again.
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Post by Admin on Jan 1, 2021 15:15:54 GMT
I do think that Meg and Harry would be better off outside of California and Harry should be removed (with Archie) to a quiet place while Meg goes on her rampage against the world. Then once Meg crashes/burns (looks likelier by the day), then Harry can heal from his problems, Meg can get treatment or put away, and somehow some kind of stability can be restored. Meg is not healthy for Harry and it is clear that Meg is on a bad downward spiral. She ain't healthy and she is not LETTING the palace reconfigure anything. This recent stunt of trying to 'renegotiate' the original agreement was not a divorce settlement and it was not meant to be done as a permanent break initially. It was supposed to be a cooling off period where both sides would back off from one another and chill and let the Court set it all straight. Instead Meg went into fully blown hyperactive, blasting the palace and grubbing after deals and decided that it would be a permanent break, not a brief spell apart and a long talk at the end of the year on how the situation could be handled. She can't stop trying to take control, do it all her way, and just LET people get on with things. I honestly think that Meg is in a final downward spiral and it will get very ugly, very fast. Harry is a domesticated cat living with a cat that has been a stray for far too long. It is also clear that Meg has SERIOUS control issues that need to be addressed big time. That issue about trying to revamp the system or calling up someone at five in the morning should show that she has no sense of boundaries or sense of stability. If anyone called me at five in the morning, I wouldn't respond since I would be busy sleeping and I would probably have my phone off. I do know that it would be better to have just chilled and quietly spent time in California or maybe the forest to enjoy nature, but Meg wants Hollywood and Harry is clearly not processing anything straightforwardly anymore.
As for CB, I do not read the Meg posts mainly since I think the headlines are funny, but I am sick of reading how Meg is being victimized yet again.
CB has it's merits, that is for sure, and I like the comments, especially, but the above post was a bit of an unfair stretch. It's a big deal to accuse anybody of racism, and it should NEVER be done lightly. Very, VERY unfair. I think the ones who toss out accusations of racism, or any other "ism", need to take a good hard look at themselves and work on whatever is truly bothering them. I personally get disgusted with how easily some attack probably just innocent people doing their jobs.They actually just demean the true experiences many have. That said, I agree with you about Meghan, what with being on that downwards spiral. Yes, it's gonna git UGLY very hard, very fast. She is not getting the reaction she thought she would get, and the "Greycoats" are actually handling things quite well, I believe. It's almost as she has to egg things on, or try to push her way forward with them to try to bring up some kind of reaction. But they aren't reacting -well, not publically, of course. She needs and thrives on high-volt drama and personal attention. I agree that she has serious control issues - she's not the one in control and it rankles her big time. One doesn't play the Crown and a long-standing foreign institution, dear, it's JUST NOT DONE? Now back to Harry - maybe he and Archie need to be back on home turf, so to speak? I am not buying the California Harry schtick - Meghan is from there and she's not laid back and cool, imagine a foreign prince? He's missing home, methinks. He had his "community" and patronages back home and thinking he's maybe feeling out of place where he is. Meghan may want Hollywood, but one doesn't have to be IN Hollywood to work on worthwhile, independent projects. I think she missed out leaving Europe - you think any one of us would turn our noses up if given the chances she was handed just because she bagged Harry? No way! This year is going to be mighty interesting!
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Post by kueifei on Jan 1, 2021 19:03:24 GMT
If Harry could be brought back without William taking full credit, I am sure it would be easy for him to be brought back. William keeps INSISTING on being in a position to 'forgive' his brother and be all big and if not for William, chances are that Harry never would have been driven to bolt. I mean really, William is the one who keeps pushing himself to the forefront and making it impossible to bring Harry back, without Harry losing face. The biggest work that the palace has to do is enabling everyone to keep 'face' and maintain dignity on all ends. William is the one who is churning out that he is more than happy to 'welcome' his 'erring' brother back. If not for William's troublesome behavior, Harry wouldn't have fell for Meg.
I do not think that Harry is fundamentally happy since he has just been through a huge upheaval and he literally is not at all equipped to know for a fact that he is truly happy. I think he is still going through motions ('carrying on') and basically not quite fully able to get a grip on anything. His wife is hustling like crazy while filing lawsuits and making a professional fool of herself and going after her father; his kid is still an infant and it is clear that the kid is being overexposed. Meg is still struggling to make her father (and the world) pay for whatever psychic pain she has as well. She is not cool, or laid back, or some hippy dippy chick who handles everything with laid back panache and she is literally 'acting out' a character in her drama narrative.
The Sussexes launched an updated Archewell site, with new partnerships
She and Harry need to work on themselves.
As for the courtiers, they are actually handling it like the experts they are. They managed to avoid a full blown collapse and managed to somehow get things organized. Quite honestly, the untitled ones deserve peerages for all their hard work. I would grant them stuff like Viscounts or Earls, not just dinky knighthoods.
STANFORD? How on EARTH did they get that? Stanford just went down in my view and quite frankly, it is quite disgusting that an Ivy League university would indulge this kind of looniness. Neither have qualifications to engage in mental health and it is clear that neither are even doing anything with their original projects (Netflix anyone?). If Meg does not produce a hit projects (likely since she just had a huge flop with her podcast) Netflix might take a bath, fire the people who suggested Meg, and end up going down in professional ignominy with no chance of a second shot. She will have no credibility and she will never be able to get away from the fact that she welshed on a deal that was almost historic in the size for a no-name former actress who had no experience.
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Post by purple1 on Jan 2, 2021 21:07:04 GMT
If Harry could be brought back without William taking full credit, I am sure it would be easy for him to be brought back. William keeps INSISTING on being in a position to 'forgive' his brother and be all big and if not for William, chances are that Harry never would have been driven to bolt. I mean really, William is the one who keeps pushing himself to the forefront and making it impossible to bring Harry back, without Harry losing face. The biggest work that the palace has to do is enabling everyone to keep 'face' and maintain dignity on all ends. William is the one who is churning out that he is more than happy to 'welcome' his 'erring' brother back. If not for William's troublesome behavior, Harry wouldn't have fell for Meg.
I do not think that Harry is fundamentally happy since he has just been through a huge upheaval and he literally is not at all equipped to know for a fact that he is truly happy. I think he is still going through motions ('carrying on') and basically not quite fully able to get a grip on anything. His wife is hustling like crazy while filing lawsuits and making a professional fool of herself and going after her father; his kid is still an infant and it is clear that the kid is being overexposed. Meg is still struggling to make her father (and the world) pay for whatever psychic pain she has as well. She is not cool, or laid back, or some hippy dippy chick who handles everything with laid back panache and she is literally 'acting out' a character in her drama narrative.
The Sussexes launched an updated Archewell site, with new partnerships
She and Harry need to work on themselves.
As for the courtiers, they are actually handling it like the experts they are. They managed to avoid a full blown collapse and managed to somehow get things organized. Quite honestly, the untitled ones deserve peerages for all their hard work. I would grant them stuff like Viscounts or Earls, not just dinky knighthoods. STANFORD? How on EARTH did they get that? Stanford just went down in my view and quite frankly, it is quite disgusting that an Ivy League university would indulge this kind of looniness. Neither have qualifications to engage in mental health and it is clear that neither are even doing anything with their original projects (Netflix anyone?). If Meg does not produce a hit projects (likely since she just had a huge flop with her podcast) Netflix might take a bath, fire the people who suggested Meg, and end up going down in professional ignominy with no chance of a second shot. She will have no credibility and she will never be able to get away from the fact that she welshed on a deal that was almost historic in the size for a no-name former actress who had no experience.
I’m a firm believer that Harry is not happy in California.
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Post by bonnie on Jan 3, 2021 14:10:41 GMT
^ I guess he is feeling lost and it's easy to understand.
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