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Post by Admin on Jul 21, 2022 15:57:46 GMT
Aside: An older item... www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1083763/Diana-brother-Earl-Spencer-worthless-husbandPrincess Diana’s brother Earl Spencer ‘was a worthless husband’ DIANA, PRINCESS OF WALES'S brother Earl Spencer was accused of being a "worthless" husband and father yesterday. The three-times married aristocrat, 54, had a "bad reputation" according to documents published in the High Court. The papers contain allegations that his extra-marital affairs were "not contestable" and that he refused to put Diana up after her divorce. By CYRIL DIXON 09:08, Thu, Feb 7, 2019 | UPDATED: 16:16, Fri, Feb 8, 2019
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Post by kueifei on Jul 21, 2022 19:06:10 GMT
First, he did offer Diana a home, she just was stubborn and since she wasn't getting Garden House, she gave her brother the double-finger and was 'stuck' living in a palatial palace suite with seventeen million USD and huge income for her office. Second, I am glad people are calling him out on his maltreatment of his wives. There is no justification for what he has done to all of them and it is telling that the women he marries are less and less caliber.
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Post by Admin on Jul 23, 2022 22:43:38 GMT
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Post by Admin on Jul 24, 2022 17:45:29 GMT
historum.com/t/duke-of-marlborough-brilliant-general-but-a-traitor.75008/Here are some other examples of Churchill’s possible acts of treachery:
-John Churchill betrayed King James II. In 1688 when William III arrived from Holland to supplant James, Churchill quickly abandoned his longtime patron and friend, giving his support to William. Churchill had pledged his support to James only a few days before the invasion.
-During the reign of William and Mary, Churchill continued his relationship thru letters with the exiled James II in France. He did this possibly as an insurance policy for a possible return of the deposed James. In fact, it was these letters, as well as fabricated ones, that earned Churchill a stint as a prisoner in the Tower of London in 1692.
-Later in Queen Anne’s reign, Churchill invited the Elector of Hanover to invade England with Dutch naval support while Queen Anne was still alive but seriously ill. He possibly did this to assure a successful Hanoverian succession upon Anne’s death.
-In 1715 with his typical duplicity, Churchill sent the Jacobite Pretender money (£4000) while simultaneously directing British forces against a failed Jacobite insurrection.
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Post by Admin on Jul 24, 2022 17:48:32 GMT
Aside: My, those Spencers' ancestors/relatives should don't show much loyalty to...anyone, do they?historum.com/t/duke-of-marlborough-brilliant-general-but-a-traitor.75008/Suspiciously, the French were well prepared for the attack, resulting in significant English and Dutch casualties and losses, including the death of the English commanding general. There was a rumor that Churchill, who had fallen out of favor at that time with William III, had alerted the French to the attack. In fact, a letter allegedly written by Churchill was later found and was thought to be an example of his treachery. The offending letter states: It is only today that I have just learned the news I now write to you; which is, that the bomb-ketches and the twelve regiments encamped at Portsmouth, with the two regiments of marines, all commanded by Talmash [the ill-fated English general] are destined for burning the port of Brest, and destroying all the men-of-war that are there. The letter only exists in a French translation, however. In fact, more than two centuries later, Winston Churchill made a great effort to vindicate his famous but maligned ancestor by claiming that the letter was a forgery fabricated to damage John Churchill’s reputation. It appears certain, nevertheless, that the planned attack on Brest had long been an open secret at that time with little chance of surprise or success. No single act of treachery would have changed the outcome of that ill-fated venture. Fortunately for Churchill and England, Queen Anne’s reign was later able to utilize Churchill’s genius. His remarkable success on the battlefield helped to solidify his reputation as one of the greatest military minds in modern history. It was Churchill’s military successes that helped to guarantee a stable and secure British Empire that would have a constitutional parliamentary (Protestant) monarchy. These episodes of treachery, however, might taint the otherwise spectacular career of the brilliant English General John Churchill, Duke of Marlborough.
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Post by Admin on Jul 24, 2022 18:00:25 GMT
Aside: An oldie from 2008... www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1030338/The-Aristo-cad-Why-does-Earl-Spencer-treat-women-badly.htmlThe Aristo-cad: Why does Earl Spencer treat his women so badly? He abandoned his second wife just weeks after she'd given birth and began an affair with a glamorous TV presenter. Now he has cruelly dumped her as well. By GEOFFREY LEVY FOR THE DAILY MAIL UPDATED: 02:58 EDT, 30 June 2008View comments Going home has not been easy. One moment she was on the edge of becoming the chatelaine of ancient Althorp House, with its old masters, priceless antiques, endless acres and unique history as the resting place of Princess Diana. The next she was returning to a little wooden house with a vegetable garden and a pole flying the American flag, in the dusty township of Bonny Doon, south of San Francisco, explaining to her police sergeant father why things hadn't turned out as they'd hoped. Friends had warned television presenter Coleen Sullivan that she'd never end up a countess but just another notch on Earl Spencer's aristocratic bedpost. And so it has turned out. ...'Charles attracts women by displaying a certain vulnerability - something of a little boy lost. It's real, not phoney,' says one of his oldest friends. 'But he gets bored with a woman the moment he realises he has total control over her. It is not a pretty characteristic, but there it is. I'm sure it goes back to his childhood when his mother ran off with another man. He loves the chase of women, and seducing them, but he can be ruthless with them.' Lord Spencer's pursuit and capture of the glamorous brunette Coleen after she interviewed him for a documentary in the late summer of 2006, followed a pattern that will be familiar to his ex-wives, Caroline - who has two other children by her first husband, PR guru Matthew Freud - and Victoria, mother of his four older children. ...Spencer's older children, living with their mother Victoria in South Africa, never came to terms with the speed with which their father had dumped his second wife, Caroline, whom they all liked, and taken up with the 35-year-old Coleen.
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Post by Admin on Jul 24, 2022 18:04:26 GMT
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1030338/The-Aristo-cad-Why-does-Earl-Spencer-treat-women-badly.htmlHowever, just what it released in Earl Spencer's mind, after such a herculean effort to bring his children on-side, can only be a matter for speculation. 'One morning,' says a family friend, 'he simply woke up and decided he no longer found her attractive. And that was it. But isn't that so very Charles?' Of course, there had been clues along the way. When he hosted a shooting party of smart friends and their wives at Althorp last Christmas, Coleen went out of her way to look beautiful at dinner. One of those present recalls that she 'really did look gorgeous and the other chaps murmured what a lucky chap Charles Spencer was, but, to our surprise, he never offered her a single compliment'. For students of Earl Spencer and his treatment of women, this was a pivotal moment. ...He claimed the pursuing paparazzi would upset his family peace. When Diana, shocked by his refusal to help, wrote to him, the loving little brother returned her letters unopened. As for the wives, theirs are both stories of grotesque betrayal. During the 1999 divorce hearing involving Victoria, held in South Africa because he was advised it would be cheaper there, he described himself (in a letter to a girlfriend) as having been 'vicious, cruel and a bully' towards Victoria. He was labelled a serial and deceitful adulterer who had affairs with a dozen women while Victoria, whom he had met and married in 1989, was in a sanatorium for five months overcoming drink problems and anorexia.
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Post by Admin on Jul 24, 2022 23:00:33 GMT
Aside: Didn't know the Spencers had that much pull with the police, JD, or SHOULD they? Hmmm...
Aside: Tr@itors cannot be choosers?
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Post by Admin on Jul 24, 2022 23:03:09 GMT
Aside: Oh, hush up, boy.
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Post by Admin on Jul 24, 2022 23:05:20 GMT
Aside: He should be more worried about his lying/cheating bully of a nephew William and what he and Kate are doing to the Monarchy?
Harry's not the one betraying the Crown, sweetie.
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Post by Admin on Jul 24, 2022 23:05:47 GMT
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Post by Admin on Jul 24, 2022 23:08:12 GMT
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Post by india on Jul 25, 2022 0:25:17 GMT
He's a creep.
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Post by kueifei on Sept 28, 2022 17:49:13 GMT
He treats them appallingly since he refuses to make anything of himself. He was never required to. He grew up believing that he could get (and was entitled to) whatever he wanted and it is clear to me that he did experience reinforcement as he got older and then his sister became globally famous and he was surely raised pampered since he was THE long awaited son. He never really HAD to make a sincere effort and I wonder if whether or not Diana was the same. She had a very grand view and so did Diana's ancestors despite their complete lack of warrior level stamina.
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Post by Admin on Sept 28, 2022 17:59:01 GMT
He treats them appallingly since he refuses to make anything of himself. He was never required to. He grew up believing that he could get (and was entitled to) whatever he wanted and it is clear to me that he did experience reinforcement as he got older and then his sister became globally famous and he was surely raised pampered since he was THE long awaited son. He never really HAD to make a sincere effort and I wonder if whether or not Diana was the same. She had a very grand view and so did Diana's ancestors despite their complete lack of warrior level stamina. And their complete lack of brains, too. A lot of upstarts who got ahead of themselves and fed off Diana's celebrity and fame.
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Post by Admin on Dec 9, 2022 3:48:55 GMT
pagesix.com/2020/01/11/drugs-lawsuits-and-prison-kitty-spencers-dramatic-family-life/Drugs, lawsuits and prison: Kitty Spencer’s dramatic family life By Nicki GostinJanuary 11, 2020 | 4:42pm
Spencer became engaged to model Victoria Atwood a scant six weeks after meeting her. They were married in 1989, with Prince Harry as a pageboy and businessman Darius Guppy serving as best man. Guppy was eventually jailed in 1993 for staging a f#ked jewel robbery and claiming 18 million pounds from insurers. The marriage got off to a rocky start, when, just six months after Kitty’s birth, Victoria found out that her husband had an affair. The couple had twins Eliza and Amelia in 1992, and finally had a son, Louis, in 1994, ensuring that the family estate would remain in the family.
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Post by Admin on Dec 9, 2022 3:53:25 GMT
www.vanityfair.com/style/2021/06/a-brief-history-of-princess-dianas-fiery-familyR OYALS A Brief History of Princess Diana’s Fiery Family From Diana’s rebellious sister to the court favorite immortalized in an Oscar-winning film, the Spencer family’s legacy for disruption and glamour goes back centuries. BY HADLEY HALL MEARES
JUNE 29, 2021“The Spencers are difficult,” Elizabeth, the Queen Mother once observed to a friend, according to Tina Brown’s The Diana Chronicles. Indeed, the role of the aristocratic family of Diana, Princess of Wales, for centuries has been that of royal disrupter. This legacy stretches to the 14th century, with their disputed ancestor Hugh Despenser’s alleged torrid affair with King Edward II and Despenser’s eventual brutal execution. Clever, charming, and fiery, much like Diana, her ancestors learned how to play the royal game—and then ripped up the rule book.
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Post by kueifei on Dec 18, 2022 12:09:23 GMT
www.vanityfair.com/style/2021/06/a-brief-history-of-princess-dianas-fiery-familyR OYALS A Brief History of Princess Diana’s Fiery Family From Diana’s rebellious sister to the court favorite immortalized in an Oscar-winning film, the Spencer family’s legacy for disruption and glamour goes back centuries. BY HADLEY HALL MEARES
JUNE 29, 2021“The Spencers are difficult,” Elizabeth, the Queen Mother once observed to a friend, according to Tina Brown’s The Diana Chronicles. Indeed, the role of the aristocratic family of Diana, Princess of Wales, for centuries has been that of royal disrupter. This legacy stretches to the 14th century, with their disputed ancestor Hugh Despenser’s alleged torrid affair with King Edward II and Despenser’s eventual brutal execution. Clever, charming, and fiery, much like Diana, her ancestors learned how to play the royal game—and then ripped up the rule book.
They also ripped apart of the credibility of their own way of life. There is no way that Diana Spencer was good for the system. I wonder how different it would have been if Charles had married someone from the North of England, not the South.
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Post by Admin on Dec 18, 2022 14:32:51 GMT
www.vanityfair.com/style/2021/06/a-brief-history-of-princess-dianas-fiery-familyR OYALS A Brief History of Princess Diana’s Fiery Family From Diana’s rebellious sister to the court favorite immortalized in an Oscar-winning film, the Spencer family’s legacy for disruption and glamour goes back centuries. BY HADLEY HALL MEARES
JUNE 29, 2021“The Spencers are difficult,” Elizabeth, the Queen Mother once observed to a friend, according to Tina Brown’s The Diana Chronicles. Indeed, the role of the aristocratic family of Diana, Princess of Wales, for centuries has been that of royal disrupter. This legacy stretches to the 14th century, with their disputed ancestor Hugh Despenser’s alleged torrid affair with King Edward II and Despenser’s eventual brutal execution. Clever, charming, and fiery, much like Diana, her ancestors learned how to play the royal game—and then ripped up the rule book. They also ripped apart of the credibility of their own way of life. There is no way that Diana Spencer was good for the system. I wonder how different it would have been if Charles had married someone from the North of England, not the South.
Years back, I read back on some of their ancestors - the Duke and Duchess of Marlborough and how they obtained their power, and that whole sorry saga is one for the ages. What I gathered from that was that even contemporaries at that time were astounded by their duplicity, disloyalty, and overbearing behaviour. Not a lot of truly honourable folk, you might say. The Duke of Marlborough betrayed his King, James II, and sent his wife and young baby fleeing for their lives (a true born heir, no "warming pan" baby or other such nonsense) - how outstandingly cruel and traitorous, in my view. The man had such a duplicitous, weak character and was easily worn down by his arrogant and high-handed wife Sarah Churchill. Ooo, doggie - this pair of self-absorbed schemers truly deserved each other. I could never get over that they were just as personally traitorous as they were politically. King James and his wife Mary of Modena actually brought these two upstarts together and supported their marriage; believe they were rather penniless and poor servants at the time? - and then to turn against them so violently? "Glorious Revolution",my a##. I've never really liked them too much or bought all their self-promotion, preening, and very often expressed pride in their background too much. Consequently, I get my guard up whenever they start up again or re-enter the picture, so to speak. I never take too well to liars, hypocrites, and disloyal people. One of my ancestors (great-grandmother a few centuries back) was the daughter of what would be the equivalent of an Earl/Duke? (German), so maybe that legacy is speaking for me a bit? I do believe that we carry with us, maybe just in a small way, some traits and influences of our ancestors.
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Post by kueifei on Dec 18, 2022 20:09:34 GMT
Aside: Didn't know the Spencers had that much pull with the police, JD, or SHOULD they? Hmmm... Aside: Tr@itors cannot be choosers?
Maybe the police won't do it because it doesn't matter anymore? These 'investigations' seem determined to make Diana not at all responsible for her participation.
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