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Post by Admin on Nov 5, 2020 2:51:32 GMT
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Post by kueifei on Nov 5, 2020 17:43:29 GMT
Grace was a pathetic mother.
She railed against feminism, despite the fact that without her career, no one would know she even existed and it is clear that she didn't mind being on the executive board of MGM if it got her out of Monaco for a while. She let her kids run over her, disliked the idea of women going to school and getting careers, despite the fact that she herself had done the same thing. Then that image of hers while she was barreling through one bed after another and wrecking marriages. She specialized in married men and then after landing a PRINCE, she had the gall to disassociate herself from her career in Hollywood and moaned about how miserable her life was as a princess. Partied with the Shah despite the fact that the Shah was not running his country responsibly and it is clear that she had real issues with taking personal responsibility. For Grace to suggest that her daughter didn't need school was a terrible and irresponsible thing to say and Grace was crazy enough to literally move into her daughter's home while Caroline was living in Paris and harass her daughter over what the tabloids (of all publications to pay attention to) was saying. Then there were the affairs and eventual alcoholism and the whining about wanting to act in films again. In my honest view, she spent her entire career in Hollywood shirking her contractual obligations and basically welshing out on agreed roles and responsibilities. Quite frankly she really irks me for so many reasons.
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Post by Admin on Nov 5, 2020 18:09:34 GMT
Grace was a pathetic mother.
She railed against feminism, despite the fact that without her career, no one would know she even existed and it is clear that she didn't mind being on the executive board of MGM if it got her out of Monaco for a while. She let her kids run over her, disliked the idea of women going to school and getting careers, despite the fact that she herself had done the same thing. Then that image of hers while she was barreling through one bed after another and wrecking marriages. She specialized in married men and then after landing a PRINCE, she had the gall to disassociate herself from her career in Hollywood and moaned about how miserable her life was as a princess. Partied with the Shah despite the fact that the Shah was not running his country responsibly and it is clear that she had real issues with taking personal responsibility. For Grace to suggest that her daughter didn't need school was a terrible and irresponsible thing to say and Grace was crazy enough to literally move into her daughter's home while Caroline was living in Paris and harass her daughter over what the tabloids (of all publications to pay attention to) was saying. Then there were the affairs and eventual alcoholism and the whining about wanting to act in films again. In my honest view, she spent her entire career in Hollywood shirking her contractual obligations and basically welshing out on agreed roles and responsibilities. Quite frankly she really irks me for so many reasons.
I'm personally not a fan; she was more image than substance, it seems. I heard/read about the stories from Hollywood - she was really fond of the casting couch, too. How she ever received an Oscar over a talent like Judy Garland is beyond me.
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Post by kueifei on Nov 5, 2020 19:50:56 GMT
She wrecked marriages too; Ray Milland was one that she messed with and she got seduced by her best friend's husband. Then she ended up probably screwing to get that Oscar and she HYPED UP the image of being part of the American upper echelons, despite being snobbish new money. She also made the choice to subject various boyfriends to the abuse that her elitist (without good reason) family doled out.
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Post by Admin on Nov 5, 2020 22:36:35 GMT
She wrecked marriages too; Ray Milland was one that she messed with and she got seduced by her best friend's husband. Then she ended up probably screwing to get that Oscar and she HYPED UP the image of being part of the American upper echelons, despite being snobbish new money. She also made the choice to subject various boyfriends to the abuse that her elitist (without good reason) family doled out. I read some of that. Her family was pretty screwed up and dysfunctional, too.
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Post by kueifei on Nov 6, 2020 4:37:36 GMT
Yeah. Her father bashed his own daughter in the press, unabashedly favored Grace's sister Peg, and was fixated on social climbing. Like a lot of new money types, he wanted his kids to marry Main Line/Social Register types, but those types do not always mix with new money and they do not like to mix with Hollywood and certainly do not think of marrying actresses. Grace's older brother was pressured nonstop to be a champion rowing Olympian and while her brother got an Olympic Bronze medal and was a four-time Olympian, he eventually divorced his wife and became an alcoholic. It was Grace's father that messed that family up because of his ambitions and Grace's mother coped with her husband's infidelity to the point where she went on shopping binges and was completely controlling of all of her children. Grace was a product of this environment and it is clear that she learned to be just as controlling and in denial of her own flaws as mother and wife. It is a shame that Grace of all people wouldn't promote higher education and careers since she herself benefited immensely from both. If not for her Hollywood career, she might have never married and had kids with a decent man or any guy who had any kind of status. Back then, being an actress was (and still kind of it) the equivalent of being an escort and no guy in Main Line or society would have ended up bringing her home to meet his parents as a future wife. It is also clear that even without a career, she wouldn't have had a shot at a very social guy who could move her up the ladder. Despite her looks, she would have been the same as any other girl from a well off family seeking a man to take care of her and would have ended up married and stuck being a reasonably well off housewife in suburbia.
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Post by Admin on Nov 6, 2020 4:52:37 GMT
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Post by Admin on Nov 6, 2020 4:54:09 GMT
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Post by kueifei on Nov 7, 2020 5:42:49 GMT
Unreal. Being too promiscuous for Hollywood's liking, that should tell everyone something. Supposedly the studios were spending tons of cash on paying off reporters, preventing them from writing about Grace's messing around. Supposedly she doinked an entire production team while on location working on a film. Right down to the lowest gofer. She really was a piece of work.
I do believe that "Ma Kelly" was a monster. Margaret supposedly worked hard to undermine her son's campaign and just broke him fully after that. She ogt her just deserts though, she ended up with Alzheimer's and declined pretty badly after the death of Kell and other setbacks.
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Post by Admin on Nov 7, 2020 14:27:10 GMT
I do believe that "Ma Kelly" was a monster. Margaret supposedly worked hard to undermine her son's campaign and just broke him fully after that. She ogt her just deserts though, she ended up with Alzheimer's and declined pretty badly after the death of Kell and other setbacks.
*********Wow! That family was truly more mixed-up and dysfunctional than previously thought. Both parents didn't seem fit - seems like they were way more about image over substance, and superficial achievements over true commitment and selflessness. Much like the Kennedys, in a lot of ways, but not all, of course. All presenting themselves as something outwardly, but inwardly, being something totally different.
Can maybe understand why Grace essentially became a sex addict. She must have been working out some serious issues. Yikes.
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Post by Admin on Nov 7, 2020 14:35:47 GMT
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Post by Admin on Nov 7, 2020 14:37:09 GMT
Move Over,Charles and Di : The House of Windsor isn’t the only royal mess. Just look at the Grimaldis of Monaco. By RONE TEMPEST NOV. 24, 199212 AM TIMES STAFF WRITER
"And there have been other problems. Princess Caroline, for example, and Prince Albert and Princess Stephanie--Rainier’s three handsome, trouble-plagued children.
You’ve heard about the troubles at the House of Windsor with Charles and Diana, Fergie and Andrew? Meet Europe’s other dysfunctional Royal Family: the Grimaldis of Monaco."
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Post by Admin on Nov 7, 2020 14:38:03 GMT
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5032711/Grace-Kelly-abusive-mother-anti-Semitic-father.htmlEXCLUSIVE: Grace Kelly's princess persona masked her dark childhood with a physically abusive mother and sister and anti-Semitic father who offered her Jewish boyfriend a Jaguar to go away but who approved of 'Catholic' Bing Crosby Grace Kelly's harsh childhood and secret relationships are revealed in the new book Grace Kelly: Hollywood Dream Girl, by Jay Jorgensen and Manoah Bowman The Princess of Monaco was born to a physically abusive mother and anti-Semitic father who disapproved of her relationship with Don Richardson Grace constantly sought approval from her father and her family members all laughed when Richardson told them she was going to be a movie star one day When her younger sister Elizabeth, 'Lizanne' was born, Grace admitted she resented no longer being the baby of the family and the center of attention She fell in love with King of Hollywood' Clark Gable on set of the 1953 film Mogambo, but he denied the affair Her parents approved of her relationship with Bing Crosby because he was Catholic - but she was not in love with the singer Following her marriage to Prince Rainier of Monaco, she became depressed and knew she'd never return to acting By CAROLINE HOWE FOR DAILYMAIL.COM PUBLISHED: 11:40 EST, 1 November 2017
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Post by kueifei on Nov 8, 2020 5:02:41 GMT
Tough. She went through life living life on whim and I really regret that Rainier married her. He was 'fixated' on someone 'suitable' and Grace was not that. She was considered 'good' because she was brought up with wealth and somehow it is telling that he wanted a five million buck dowry. I would have told him to go bugger himself and also as for 'brought up with wealth,' what an insult to women who make their way in the world. Jackie O. was someone who did her bit before marrying and JFK didn't require a dowry and quite honestly, Grace's determination to be as Victorian as possible is ironic since if her husband had been half as snobbish, Grace wouldn't have been wife material at all. She also looked down on Philippe Junot and I also find that ironic as well considering how her own family mistreated her former suitors. Her affairs should have landed her in hot water and I find it disgusting how she would pester guys at times. I mean really, she had the mor@ls of an alleycat and I am thankful that Prince Charles didn't marry Princess Caroline since if he had, Grace would never let ANYONE forget it at all.
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Post by Admin on Nov 18, 2020 2:38:13 GMT
You will never believe - just randomly was doing a google search on some other royals - found another apparent cousin link..down to Rainier III. Very, very complicated but just thought I would share that tidbit.
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Post by kueifei on Nov 20, 2020 22:26:33 GMT
I do believe that "Ma Kelly" was a monster. Margaret supposedly worked hard to undermine her son's campaign and just broke him fully after that. She ogt her just deserts though, she ended up with Alzheimer's and declined pretty badly after the death of Kell and other setbacks.*********Wow! That family was truly more mixed-up and dysfunctional than previously thought. Both parents didn't seem fit - seems like they were way more about image over substance, and superficial achievements over true commitment and selflessness. Much like the Kennedys, in a lot of ways, but not all, of course. All presenting themselves as something outwardly, but inwardly, being something totally different. Can maybe understand why Grace essentially became a sex addict. She must have been working out some serious issues. Yikes.
They were unhealthily fixated on social advancement. The Kennedy family became power-mad, but public service is public service and the Kennedy family is responsible for the Special Olympics being created. Not to mention a lot of the treaties like the Nuclear Test Ban Treaty. Jackie O. argued in favor of ending the testing of nuclear weapons and I admire how so much went the way that it did. The Kelly family should have focused on being in politics and public service.
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Post by Admin on Dec 17, 2020 23:19:05 GMT
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Post by Admin on Dec 20, 2020 17:10:58 GMT
www.celebitchy.com/693841/monacos_prince_albert_is_facing_yet_another_paternity_claim_for_a_kid_conceived_in_2005/Monaco’s Prince Albert is facing yet another paternity claim for a kid conceived in 2005 December 20, 2020 By Kaiser Charlene Wittstock, Prince Albert of Monaco, RoyalsPrince Albert of Monaco will appear in court in the new year to fight explosive claims he fathered a third love child with a secret girlfriend before marrying his now wife Princess Charlene. The 62-year-old prince, who already supports two illegitimate children, is alleged to have had a relationship with a Brazilian woman which resulted in a daughter in 2005.
The claim, which his lawyers dismissed as a ‘hoax’, is particularly painful as he was dating Charlene at the time, having met the former Olympic swimmer in 2000. Sources in the Mediterranean principality say she has had a ‘terrible’ year as lawyers for the billionaire couple brace themselves for the court case that opens in Milan, Italy, in February.
The 34-year-old claimant – who cannot be named for legal reasons – says she had a passionate affair with Albert, leading to the birth of their daughter – whose name is also classified – on July 4, 2005. Albert received a handwritten letter from the child, who is now 15, in September this year reading: ‘I don’t understand why I grew up without a father, and now that I have found you, you don’t want to see me.’
Legal papers were also filed, as lawyers for the claimant called on Albert to undergo a DNA test – just as he did before finally being identified as the father of two illegitimate children born in the 1990s and early 2000s.
‘This was before Charlene and Albert were an item, but the latest case covers a time when she was already in love with him,’ said a source who works closely with the Monaco Royal household. ‘Charlene has had a terrible year, with one family crisis after another including Albert going down with Coronavirus, and now she’s gearing herself up for this hell.’
[From The Daily Mail]
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Post by Admin on Dec 20, 2020 17:15:00 GMT
www.celebitchy.com/693841/monacos_prince_albert_is_facing_yet_another_paternity_claim_for_a_kid_conceived_in_2005/Aside: the runaway bride "rumours", etc, are nothing new. I remember discussions on this years ago.Some comments:Chartreuse says: December 20, 2020 at 8:07 am Geez! I have a friend who knew Albert, even dated him, 30 years ago. She really liked him and said he was a good guy. The kidnap /runaway bride thing is odd and not sure I believe it. But Charlene’s hair looks cry for help for sure. Would not at all be surprised if they live apartReply Snuffles says: December 20, 2020 at 8:28 am He can be a nice guy AND a cheater. And I can believe the runaway bride story. It would be the equivalent of Diana trying to make a break for it days before the wedding. There was no way the kingdom was going to let that happen.Reply Wiglet Watcher says: December 20, 2020 at 11:15 am Absolutely Snuffles I believe the runaway bride story. And I’m sure lots of guys entertaining young women are very nice. Doesn’t mean they are Prince Charming through and throughSnappyfish says: December 20, 2020 at 8:57 am I have only seen her genuinely smile twice. Both times were on the podium at the Monte Carlo F1 race where she was drinking champagne w/hot winning drivers.What people will give up (happiness & the keys to their own life) for a crownReply (TheOG) Jan90067 says: December 20, 2020 at 10:41 am Hmmm… one other springs to mind *cough*Kate*cough*. Only time *she’s* really “alive” is sailing with Ben Ainsley. But yeah… nailed it with another Albert mess.Digital Unicorn says: December 20, 2020 at 8:10 am Yeah I think she and the kids don’t live with him and only spend time together for official engagements. He’s always always been a cheater and she had her own agenda for going through with it. Am sure there are more kids out there that have been hushed up.
I guess this marriage can be seen as the blueprint for the Cambridges. These 2 at least look like they can stand being in the same room.Reply FHMom says: December 20, 2020 at 9:05 am I like this theory. I do wonder, though, given his history of impregnating women why he doesn’t wear condoms.Reply Nic919 says: December 20, 2020 at 9:46 am These guys assume the women will take care of that. They are too arrogant to bother and probably can afford to support them.RoyalBlue says: December 20, 2020 at 10:28 am ugh he must be a walking STD.(TheOG) Jan90067 says: December 20, 2020 at 10:43 am You’d've thought he’d have gotten snipped after the twins! Esp. knowing he wasn’t going to stop fooling around. But yeah… STDs for sure. Wonder if he has his court physician “test” women he’s dallying with first, to check?
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Post by purple1 on Apr 23, 2021 23:21:42 GMT
Film actress Grace Kelly put Monaco on the map. Before Di-mania, it was truly the Monaco royal family who was front and center stage. Anyways, what do you guys think of them? I really enjoyed Princess Grace humanitarian work. She set up daycares, orphanages, AMADE(unfortunate children), Christmas gift giving in the principality. She added a certain class and glamour and respectability that has been missing since her untimely death.
What do you guys think of them nowadays?
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