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Post by kueifei on Jan 23, 2024 2:52:18 GMT
Edit: This post was moved to Diana, Princess of Wales - Myth, mystery and truth Diana was flawed in many ways though she stood on and was respected for her work. In addition, she had spontaneous, endearing presence--called je ne said quoi. She demonstrated sympathy and empathy. She had a lovely voice and manner of speaking. She dressed well and thoughtfully, put thought and diligence into the work and did the part and role with respect to the public. She had good manners generally. She was very young and very pretty without makeup. She WANTED to be there; Diana was eager to be a part of that family and I sincerely think it is clear that she went in with the best of intentions. Even Lady C. states that Diana was sincere and while there was aristocratic ambition, she was not going to just cynically hand herself over to the highest bidder. To me, the real mess was how Diana adopted post-modern feminist ethos and feminists in my view were unfairly critical of Diana. One of the biggest flaws of post-modern feminism and feminism in general is that it refuses to see situations according to the realities of their times. Jackie O. was criticized by feminists for not divorcing JFK for his infidelity, while not dealing with the reality that of the First Lady were to leave the President, it would kneecap the nation's prestige. Jackie O. stayed, made her own accommodations within the situation, and was a result, NEVER got disrespected by JFK even when it came to Marilyn. Diana should never have latched onto a form of feminism that had nothing to do with the realities of her situation. She was not just a wife, not just an aristocratic wife, she was a Princess Consort of Wales, and she NEVER should have let pop feminism get into her head. One of the many things about feminism these days that I am critical of is how it is mainly founded on idealism, not the realities of human nature. Diana was cheered on by feminists as she kneecapped her nation's rep and as a result, left a void where nothing but sleaze came through. Feminists were not facing the fact that Diana had downgraded the Wales titles, and it is clear that she had no clue of genuine feminist independence. Diana didn't become the darling of feminists because she was well behaved or showing the feminine strength that Jackie O. had, they were cheering her on as she degraded herself by unloading her mess into the public and then proceeded to undermine her husband and burden her son with her wishes instead of healthily nurturing his own development. I wish feminists had urged her to find fulfillment in her role, stay legally married at least, and do all she can to just grow out of her angst. Diana should have been supported, not criticized by women who were not in her situation. After Diana started demeaning herself by being bought and paid for by rich men, she should have been told off by feminist supporters, but those columnists were cheering her on as she cheapened herself and cheapened herself in the eyes of her SONS. She was a mess, not a modern woman and she should have been adult enough to see that she was well supported and if a tiny price of a stifling marriage is to be paid, better paid that way than by other ways. Those men were using her as trophy lust, and she never really did want to face that fact. Feminists should have been urging Diana to stay in her marriage, get genuine education, and do all she can to accommodate herself. I wish Diana had been willing to not just grow up but grow out of her dependency and fight against Camilla in reasonable ways. If Diana had called on feminist to help her shove Camilla out, I am certain that they would have helped. Regrettably Diana dumbly thought that she could make it on her own and she couldn't, even with her additional privileges. Diana was a victim from 18/19 to 27, but when she shoved her stepmother down a flight of stairs at 29, no more sympathy from me. At 27/28 we should come into knowledge of our lives and situations, and it is on us to take control and take responsibility. I am not talking about how Diana was as a teen bride; I am talking about how she was as a thirty-year-old woman who at thirty-five decided to smash up her husband's reputation and that of the BRF. She knew the score and knew the standards and regrettably she made bad choices. Camilla got inside her head, but Diana should have been in therapy exorcising that mess out of her head. At 35 I resent how people say that Diana should have been talked to about her actions, but it is clear that she shouldn't have been coddled. |
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Post by kueifei on Feb 5, 2024 4:41:02 GMT
I hope Diana is happy. She is the one that introduced the Spencer mess into the BRF and:
1. Taught her sons to have a bad attitude towards her privileged life.
2. Taught her sons to shirk work at every chance.
3. Live a rootless life and basically shun traditional events and requirements.
4. Prevented them from building a life/history with the gentry and aristocracy and as a result, were alienated from both.
5. Brainwashed her sons from developing a healthy connection with their real inclinations.
6. Smeared her son's father and the BRF to the point where her own sons became estranged from their own blood family.
7. Loaded them with baggage like Elton John and her 'relationships' with the press. Arthur Edwards has no right to expect anything from either prince and point blank, Elton John has no business 'befriending' adolescent boys. They were Diana's lackies, not that of the princes and that transfer created a HUGE amount of baggage that they should not be shouldering.
8. Teaching them that state dinners and plush events were burdensome instead of positive and a result of years of hard work on the part of the guests of honor.
9. Teaching them education and training isn't important, and school is just a token social ritual.
10. Teaching them that everything will always be there and there will not be any need to make the most of each young year of their lives productively.
11. The world owed them more and more of what they 'felt' they should be able to have.
12. You can impose yourself on a different family and that family should make room for them and be their caretakers. This is how William was manipulated by the Middletons.
13. Be 'anti-establishment' despite the fact that they ARE the establishment.
14. Activism is hard work and should be rewarded with copious vacations.
15. Whining is a socially acceptable way of expressing angst and discontent.
16. When someone slaves their guts out to help you present yourself well, throw it back in their faces by making more messes.
17. Whining about the press is something that is okay.
18. Everything in life is someone else's fault. Blame the world for your screwups and for the world not aligning with YOUR schedule.
19. Make nothing of yourself and wonder WHY the best types do not flock to scoop you up romantically.
20. Screw up all the time and wonder why staff quit and go to better paying jobs.
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Post by kueifei on Jun 14, 2024 3:38:37 GMT
Edit: This post was moved to Diana, Princess of Wales - Myth, mystery and truth Diana was flawed in many ways though she stood on and was respected for her work. In addition, she had spontaneous, endearing presence--called je ne said quoi. She demonstrated sympathy and empathy. She had a lovely voice and manner of speaking. She dressed well and thoughtfully, put thought and diligence into the work and did the part and role with respect to the public. She had good manners generally. She was very young and very pretty without makeup. I bet you anything that if Diana had been alive, right now, she would have been remarried to Charles and crowned Queen Consort. Point blank, while Diana was alive Charles would NEVER have loved Camilla enough to marry her and it wasn't just because of the COE. Charles gave Diana that final freedom through HME ordering the divorce and as Diana become more knocked around, she ended up maturing and I think subconsciously there was a connected between Charles and Diana that there would be reconciliation after there had been more changes. Charles had Camilla coming out, but he was not grooming Camilla for marriage. Most men do not want to go about it the way he was if he had been serious about Camilla becoming a princess consort. During the last year of Diana's life, there were bonds being built between Diana and Charles and it was not just because of the sons. It was because of how Charles was seeing Diana from a different dynamic and Diana was regaining respect for Charles and the Crown that she hadn't had before. The princes were also maturing, and a reality was that they had to get along. I think Diana was being roped back in, this time on a more basis of earning it instead of having it handed to her when she was young, and Diana was becoming more and more compliant to the palace's requests of behavior and so on and so forth. She was being maneuvered back in and she was likely being increasingly forgiven and with the maturity of Charles being developed as well, it is clear that Charles was respecting Diana as a woman with the right to a life of her own. Throughout all of this, Diana was being seen more as a human being and less of a brood mare and I do not think that Charles was raised right to know how to treat a potential wife versus a mistress. At first Diana was expected to be at his beck and call and basically, he treated Diana with emotional and psychological dismissiveness that was wrong and out of line. If Diana had lived, Charles would have relearned a lot of things and Charles and Diana would have reconciled as mature adults, not just two dolts who didn't know how to maintain a solid relationship. Diana was learning how much of a catch Charles was and she was likely seeing the scope of his work and contributions that she hadn't seen before. She needed to be out and about and knocked around. I do not think that she is in fact someone who was doomed or unable to win Charles back. No matter what, Charles wanted to be there for Diana and deep-down Diana would have gone back to Charles in a minute given the chance. If Diana had written letters asking about maybe rebuilding real ties, Charles would have taken it. Once both were freed from the mess that they had married into (media coverage, media narrative, and pressure from the palace to do a heavy schedule) both ended up doing better than ever before. Diana did admit to Seward that it wasn't just Camilla, it was people who refused to give them time and space to develop a real marriage. |
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tale BS.
#JamesMiddleton