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Post by Admin on Jul 28, 2020 21:45:32 GMT
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Post by Admin on Jul 29, 2020 13:07:24 GMT
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Post by india on Jul 29, 2020 17:46:49 GMT
Diana's sense of style was truly incomparable. I have missed watching her for all of these years.
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Post by kueifei on Aug 26, 2020 19:51:26 GMT
You know, I wonder how different it would have been if Charles had been more of a politician and less of a spoiled artsy dolt. Diana would have a nursery full of kids, she would be ALIVE, and she would certainly end up with the title Queen (that she RICHLY deserved. What I find most jolting, is how little of anything meant to Camilla.
I've been having a thought that has been going around in my head for the past couple of weeks and I have to get it out.
Thing is, that it just occurred to me that her being hounded out of her marriage by a scheming mistress is something that is bigger than I or perhaps most realize. Diana, who had dollops of ROYAL Stuart blood, was married in a high nuptial mass in St. Paul's Cathedral in the presence of the entire world and the royalty of the world. She was wearing her family's ancestral tiara, was a virgin, YOUNG, and beautiful. She was marring not just for love, but for family and duty to her country. This was a DYNASTIC MATCH as well. Diana's marriage, her very VOWS, had been consecrated by the Archbishop of Canterbury himself.
Yet to Camilla, NONE of that mattered. It didn't matter that Diana had a huge burden on her shoulders by having to support that wet mop of a spineless husband of hers, all that mattered to Camilla was having 'her' prince to herself. Camilla made calls to the press denouncing Diana's mental state (who wouldn't have issues in that kind of situation) and it didn't matter to Camilla that by playing hostess in a another woman's marital home, that she was crossing a MAJOR line. Even Edward VII who had tons of mistresses NEVER let any of them harass Princess Alexandra. Diana was PRINCESS OF WALES and that didn't mean a thing to Camilla. I also heard that Camilla was dictating the number of kids that Charles and Diana would have, robbing Diana of the few comforts that royal wives have in their position, being able to fill a nursery full of children and occupy herself with their well being and keep herself happy and repeatedly securing the direct line of succession. It makes me SICK to my stomach that Camilla even had the GALL to present herself as a victim of palace snobbery as well and that Diana was somehow out of line in wanting her husband to herself and wanting a healthy family life as well as a fulfilling public role.
With the breakup of a marriage at that level, WHO IS SAFE in their own marriage if someone like Diana could be driven out and then vilified for leaving a situation that was toxic?
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Post by Admin on Aug 27, 2020 0:17:00 GMT
You know, I wonder how different it would have been if Charles had been more of a politician and less of a spoiled artsy dolt. Diana would have a nursery full of kids, she would be ALIVE, and she would certainly end up with the title Queen (that she RICHLY deserved. What I find most jolting, is how little of anything meant to Camilla. I've been having a thought that has been going around in my head for the past couple of weeks and I have to get it out. Thing is, that it just occurred to me that her being hounded out of her marriage by a scheming mistress is something that is bigger than I or perhaps most realize. Diana, who had dollops of ROYAL Stuart blood, was married in a high nuptial mass in St. Paul's Cathedral in the presence of the entire world and the royalty of the world. She was wearing her family's ancestral tiara, was a virgin, YOUNG, and beautiful. She was marring not just for love, but for family and duty to her country. This was a DYNASTIC MATCH as well. Diana's marriage, her very VOWS, had been consecrated by the Archbishop of Canterbury himself. Yet to Camilla, NONE of that mattered. It didn't matter that Diana had a huge burden on her shoulders by having to support that wet mop of a spineless husband of hers, all that mattered to Camilla was having 'her' prince to herself. Camilla made calls to the press denouncing Diana's mental state (who wouldn't have issues in that kind of situation) and it didn't matter to Camilla that by playing hostess in a another woman's marital home, that she was crossing a MAJOR line. Even Edward VII who had tons of mistresses NEVER let any of them harass Princess Alexandra. Diana was PRINCESS OF WALES and that didn't mean a thing to Camilla. I also heard that Camilla was dictating the number of kids that Charles and Diana would have, robbing Diana of the few comforts that royal wives have in their position, being able to fill a nursery full of children and occupy herself with their well being and keep herself happy and repeatedly securing the direct line of succession. It makes me SICK to my stomach that Camilla even had the GALL to present herself as a victim of palace snobbery as well and that Diana was somehow out of line in wanting her husband to herself and wanting a healthy family life as well as a fulfilling public role. With the breakup of a marriage at that level, WHO IS SAFE in their own marriage if someone like Diana could be driven out and then vilified for leaving a situation that was toxic? You are right - WHO can be safe when outsiders and outside, unwanted and intrusive characters can wreck such havoc on somebody else's life? Where did you hear of the cases where Camilla was dictating the number of children Diana had? That is really beyond the pale!  |
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Post by kueifei on Aug 27, 2020 2:37:16 GMT
Pity Charles made the bad choice of letting the mistress overthrow the wife. There is no more security in a marriage and I wonder if the resurgence of career minded women was a result of Diana's overthrow. Let's just call it what it is, an overthrow.
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Post by kueifei on Oct 5, 2020 3:44:16 GMT
During her time she was the most famous woman in the world. Literally on the cover of the world's top magazines on a regular basis.
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Post by Admin on Oct 5, 2020 4:24:20 GMT
During her time she was the most famous woman in the world. Literally on the cover of the world's top magazines on a regular basis. Thanks for getting this going - yes, you couldn't NOT see constant coverage of her. |
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Post by kueifei on Oct 6, 2020 21:37:00 GMT
Emma Corrin: ‘I feel I’ve got to know Diana like you would a friend’
I really wish celebs would stop pretending that they were friends with Diana on any real basis. Diana was the daughter of an Earl and was someone who never ran with that crowd. She never dated someone like Sting or Bono, she was someone who was dating other nobs and eventually married a prince. I do not know how she managed to convince people that she understood the genuine troubles of the people. She never really had to budget or even know what it was like to even wear polyester clothes. Quite honestly, I wish she had not marketed herself as having things in common with the 'common man.'
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Post by Admin on Oct 14, 2020 2:24:55 GMT
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Post by india on Oct 14, 2020 12:13:03 GMT
I cannot believe this tacky actress was chosen to portray Diana.
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Post by kueifei on Oct 14, 2020 17:27:15 GMT
I am fed up with her hipster BS; she should take pride in her appearance and how she presents herself and she has no business dressing like a slob and looking pouty. I am fed up with it.
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Post by Admin on Oct 14, 2020 17:29:53 GMT
I am fed up with her hipster BS; she should take pride in her appearance and how she presents herself and she has no business dressing like a slob and looking pouty. I am fed up with it.
Agreed. I am also fed up with actors who think studying an accent is all that is needed to embody a character. |
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Post by kueifei on Oct 14, 2020 17:43:30 GMT
Exactly. None of then knew her and none of them ever will. It is clear that I am sick of all these Diana movies and I am sick of seeing her portrayed as some kind of mindless airhead who was perpetually surprised by media coverage. BY the time of her death she was a seasoned public figure and it is clear that she was not really all that much of a victim anymore. I am also resentful of how a ton of celebs thought it was just media harassment that caused her death. I still believe that she never should have refused bodyguards and she failed to just settle down and into a quiet life and give herself some breathing space that would have stabilized her life. She made the mistake of deciding to try to live the life she lived before she married Charles and I also believe that she made the bad choice to continue to be dependent on relationships as a way to fill her time.
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Post by Admin on Oct 20, 2020 17:44:25 GMT
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Post by kueifei on Oct 20, 2020 19:24:08 GMT
She never should have even thought to say such a thing either on Panorama or to her friends or to Max Hastings or ANYONE. First, as much as Diana liked to think of herself as a power in her own right, she was not. She was more a plaything rather than a player. She really thought that good press justified waltzing in and disrupting Charles' staff, that she knew more about the real world than Charles did and it is clear that she really did think that being rich and famous and titled and attractive was enough to make her a world leader. I resent that she ushered in the era of celebrity activism and somehow made it 'enough' to be rich and famous and attractive. Apparently she didn't think that being educated, academically credentialed, and experienced beyond tabloid media coverage was enough and it is clear that she believed her own hype. Even at 20 she thought that Charles should serve her first instead of his mother and elderly grandmother who rightly deserved precedence. She NEVER should have set up William as a Pretender to the position of Prince of Wales and it never occurred to her that the Prince's Trust's entire EXISTENCE owed itself to the fact that Charles is Prince of Wales. There are also charities that rely on that position and Charles holding it. most importantly, Charles' position is also vital to stability and continuity and the world has been familiar with him for decades. World leaders know him well and it is clear that he is on reasonably good terms with them as well. He is a fixture on the world stage. Diana had no right to attempt to overthrow him and she had no business actually judging her husband's abilities when she couldn't even keep certain aspects of her life straight.
I will never understand why she didn't volunteer for the Prince's Trust and do office work, or ambassadorial work, or hostess Prince's Trust receptions. She really could have been a perfect asset for it and could have really inspired others to do the same and dedicate themselves to volunteerism and even helping recipients of the Trust to get more help and opportunities along the way. She could have found fulfillment and happiness in that instead of bulimia or shopping or astrologers. Or other forms of self destruction. It would also have given her the validation she craved and also genuine substance. She would have filled in gaps in her psyche that needed filling and it is clear that she could have done documentaries and satisfied her need to 'perform.' She really made bad choices that led to worse ones and that final bad decision that got her kicked out was how she announced to the world that Charles probably shouldn't retain his previously unquestioned position and right to the succession. She brought into question the concrete right Charles has to succeed as King. That was so out of line and it makes me disgusted that she took a very petty approach. She won't be Queen Consort, so as an act of revenge, she doesn't want Charles to be King and didn't THINK that she didn't have a right to be some co-monarch in her own right. She didn't just air the dirty laundry, she tried to overthrow the rightful succession. She never did THINK that overthrowing Charles would wreck a lot of charities and careers.
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Post by Admin on Oct 20, 2020 22:07:49 GMT
She never should have even thought to say such a thing either on Panorama or to her friends or to Max Hastings or ANYONE. First, as much as Diana liked to think of herself as a power in her own right, she was not. She was more a plaything rather than a player. She really thought that good press justified waltzing in and disrupting Charles' staff, that she knew more about the real world than Charles did and it is clear that she really did think that being rich and famous and titled and attractive was enough to make her a world leader. I resent that she ushered in the era of celebrity activism and somehow made it 'enough' to be rich and famous and attractive. Apparently she didn't think that being educated, academically credentialed, and experienced beyond tabloid media coverage was enough and it is clear that she believed her own hype. Even at 20 she thought that Charles should serve her first instead of his mother and elderly grandmother who rightly deserved precedence. She NEVER should have set up William as a Pretender to the position of Prince of Wales and it never occurred to her that the Prince's Trust's entire EXISTENCE owed itself to the fact that Charles is Prince of Wales. There are also charities that rely on that position and Charles holding it. most importantly, Charles' position is also vital to stability and continuity and the world has been familiar with him for decades. World leaders know him well and it is clear that he is on reasonably good terms with them as well. He is a fixture on the world stage. Diana had no right to attempt to overthrow him and she had no business actually judging her husband's abilities when she couldn't even keep certain aspects of her life straight. I will never understand why she didn't volunteer for the Prince's Trust and do office work, or ambassadorial work, or hostess Prince's Trust receptions. She really could have been a perfect asset for it and could have really inspired others to do the same and dedicate themselves to volunteerism and even helping recipients of the Trust to get more help and opportunities along the way. She could have found fulfillment and happiness in that instead of bulimia or shopping or astrologers. Or other forms of self destruction. It would also have given her the validation she craved and also genuine substance. She would have filled in gaps in her psyche that needed filling and it is clear that she could have done documentaries and satisfied her need to 'perform.' She really made bad choices that led to worse ones and that final bad decision that got her kicked out was how she announced to the world that Charles probably shouldn't retain his previously unquestioned position and right to the succession. She brought into question the concrete right Charles has to succeed as King. That was so out of line and it makes me disgusted that she took a very petty approach. She won't be Queen Consort, so as an act of revenge, she doesn't want Charles to be King and didn't THINK that she didn't have a right to be some co-monarch in her own right. She didn't just air the dirty laundry, she tried to overthrow the rightful succession. She never did THINK that overthrowing Charles would wreck a lot of charities and careers.
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Post by kueifei on Oct 20, 2020 22:59:42 GMT
Thank you! I have been seething about Princess Diana in some areas for years. She had everything but any chance at the top spot and it is clear that she lost all perspective. There is NEVER any excuse for Camilla playing at being hostess or sneaking calls to the media about Diana; there is also the fact that Tiggy NEVER should have gotten away with mouthing off about Diana in public or private. No one should get away with any of that. I just believe that Diana was wrong to not take the chance to bond with her husband over HIS hobbies and HIS interests. If she had spent time doing work at the Prince's Trust office or doing appearances on behalf of that, or giving her husband guidance in regards to the PR aspects of some of his speeches, she would have been a genuinely fulfilled young woman and eventual adult. She could have been a contributing member of the RF and she would have been healthier as well. Maybe even her bulimia would have subsided and ended up receding for good. The way she went at Charles is something that I really can't forgive. She had no right to make Charles pay for what happened in her childhood and she had no right to accuse (by proxy, by way of accusing the courtiers) HM of constantly scheming against her and also suggesting that everyone around her didn't do enough for her. She NEVER knew what it was to struggle to get her kids into a safe school or provide a secure stable plentiful home. She made the misstep of thinking that she was a perpetual victim of everyone and everything. Camilla was to an extent out of control, but I think after even a handful of years of Diana making demands on time he didn't have to give was irritating and also selfish. He had a full life and she could have done stuff with the Prince's Trust and could have learned new skills and expanded her interests. She could have stopped doing a lot of self destructive things, but kept on doing it until everyone lost patience with her.
I get sick of hearing about her 'terrible' childhood as if growing up on a vast estate is deprivation and I am angry about how her mother was a 'bolter' who did a bad thing by leaving a man who would have beaten her to death and left them motherless either way. As if Frances didn't have the right to save her life and just make a better life for herself and her children. Frances did want to bring the kids, but was stopped and she got them and enrolled them in school, but they were seized and brought back and she lost the custody battle. That isn't the same as just packing a suitcase and walking out on her marital responsibilities. Frances never owed it to Diana to stay until she was beaten to death. Would Diana have blamed Frances for dying if Frances had been beaten to death? It's not like Frances didn't love her kids. The judge decided and Frances deserved to live an abuse-free life. There is no way that Johnny would have stopped abusing Frances. There is no way that Frances would have been able to live a peaceful life to coexist. She had no business expecting everyone just just sacrifice themselves for her. After 30, Diana surely should have understood that Frances was in an abusive situation and it was best to leave and just end up setting up a new life. Heck, after Diana turned seventeen and moved into her London pad, Diana could have rebuilt her relationship with her mother and learned to mature in ways that only a mother can provide. Diana would have benefited and would have healed in a much better way. There is no reason that Frances should have stayed and been some kind of social martyr to domestic violence in order to maintain a social image and it disgusts me that Diana apparently never appreciated her mother's determination to live an abuse-free life. I also do not believe that she really appreciated that kind of stance.
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Post by Admin on Oct 22, 2020 12:39:16 GMT
Thank you! I have been seething about Princess Diana in some areas for years. She had everything but any chance at the top spot and it is clear that she lost all perspective. There is NEVER any excuse for Camilla playing at being hostess or sneaking calls to the media about Diana; there is also the fact that Tiggy NEVER should have gotten away with mouthing off about Diana in public or private. No one should get away with any of that. I just believe that Diana was wrong to not take the chance to bond with her husband over HIS hobbies and HIS interests. If she had spent time doing work at the Prince's Trust office or doing appearances on behalf of that, or giving her husband guidance in regards to the PR aspects of some of his speeches, she would have been a genuinely fulfilled young woman and eventual adult. She could have been a contributing member of the RF and she would have been healthier as well. Maybe even her bulimia would have subsided and ended up receding for good. The way she went at Charles is something that I really can't forgive. She had no right to make Charles pay for what happened in her childhood and she had no right to accuse (by proxy, by way of accusing the courtiers) HM of constantly scheming against her and also suggesting that everyone around her didn't do enough for her. She NEVER knew what it was to struggle to get her kids into a safe school or provide a secure stable plentiful home. She made the misstep of thinking that she was a perpetual victim of everyone and everything. Camilla was to an extent out of control, but I think after even a handful of years of Diana making demands on time he didn't have to give was irritating and also selfish. He had a full life and she could have done stuff with the Prince's Trust and could have learned new skills and expanded her interests. She could have stopped doing a lot of self destructive things, but kept on doing it until everyone lost patience with her.
I get sick of hearing about her 'terrible' childhood as if growing up on a vast estate is deprivation and I am angry about how her mother was a 'bolter' who did a bad thing by leaving a man who would have beaten her to death and left them motherless either way. As if Frances didn't have the right to save her life and just make a better life for herself and her children. Frances did want to bring the kids, but was stopped and she got them and enrolled them in school, but they were seized and brought back and she lost the custody battle. That isn't the same as just packing a suitcase and walking out on her marital responsibilities. Frances never owed it to Diana to stay until she was beaten to death. Would Diana have blamed Frances for dying if Frances had been beaten to death? It's not like Frances didn't love her kids. The judge decided and Frances deserved to live an abuse-free life. There is no way that Johnny would have stopped abusing Frances. There is no way that Frances would have been able to live a peaceful life to coexist. She had no business expecting everyone just just sacrifice themselves for her. After 30, Diana surely should have understood that Frances was in an abusive situation and it was best to leave and just end up setting up a new life. Heck, after Diana turned seventeen and moved into her London pad, Diana could have rebuilt her relationship with her mother and learned to mature in ways that only a mother can provide. Diana would have benefited and would have healed in a much better way. There is no reason that Frances should have stayed and been some kind of social martyr to domestic violence in order to maintain a social image and it disgusts me that Diana apparently never appreciated her mother's determination to live an abuse-free life. I also do not believe that she really appreciated that kind of stance.
Wow! Thank you! An eye-opener.  |
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Post by Admin on Oct 22, 2020 12:39:46 GMT
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8807983/Princess-Diana-fired-Princes-William-Harrys-surrogate-mother-jealousy-new-book-claims.htmlTwo little boys who were left scarred and adrift: Princess Diana fired Princes William and Harry's 'surrogate mother' out of jealousy... sparking years of psychological problems, new book claims Diana hired Barbara Barnes, 42, as Prince William's nanny after his birth She came to share suspicion Barnes was getting too possessive with ‘her’ boys Diana gave instructions nanny’s bags should be packed and trace of her removed Barnes had not been allowed to say the slightest word of farewell to her charges By ROBERT LACEY FOR THE DAILY MAIL PUBLISHED: 17:00 EDT, 5 October 2020 | UPDATED: 04:35 EDT, 6 October 2020 
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tale BS.
#JamesMiddleton