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Post by Admin on Jan 4, 2021 17:30:54 GMT
Totally. I can't get over that royals are reduced to all of this. I cannot get over how they degraded the contributions of their ancestors and reduced the Monarchy to a badly-acted skit. |
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Post by purple1 on Jan 4, 2021 20:19:33 GMT
I’m a huge fan of Diana. Yes I know she wasn’t a victim as much but she did good and was kind to all kinds of races. She didn’t have an air of arrogance about her and she was done dirty by the firm.
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Post by kueifei on Jan 5, 2021 2:53:46 GMT
You're right. She made the marginalized feel that they mattered and it makes me sick that Charles never appreciated it. I've been a huge critic of her on this forum, but there is NO WAY that Camilla's meddling should have been tolerated.
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Post by india on Jan 5, 2021 14:05:58 GMT
I am so tired of the Weak Windsor men who need a mommy figure to make them whole.
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Post by Admin on Jan 6, 2021 0:31:55 GMT
I am so tired of the Weak Windsor men who need a mommy figure to make them whole. I'm tired of them falling for useless dips and lazy, unaccomplished women. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2021 0:26:04 GMT
I am so tired of the Weak Windsor men who need a mommy figure to make them whole. The Windsor men are very effeminate and like masculine women. |
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Post by kueifei on Jan 8, 2021 4:57:41 GMT
I honestly think that if Diana had gotten at least her diploma (or the UK equivalent) during her marriage and if she had trained as a social worker, she would have been the best possible example of a modern royal with not just a good basic education, but actual qualifications. Imagine the impact she could have made and the life she would have been living. A genuine complete education and also a genuine fulfilling work life. She would have ended up being more hands on, building more substance, and also at the same time, would have filled her days better than with astrologers and shady types that she mixed with as a result of a life without real substantial direction.
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Post by purple1 on Jan 8, 2021 7:54:31 GMT
I honestly think that if Diana had gotten at least her diploma (or the UK equivalent) during her marriage and if she had trained as a social worker, she would have been the best possible example of a modern royal with not just a good basic education, but actual qualifications. Imagine the impact she could have made and the life she would have been living. A genuine complete education and also a genuine fulfilling work life. She would have ended up being more hands on, building more substance, and also at the same time, would have filled her days better than with astrologers and shady types that she mixed with as a result of a life without real substantial direction. But she achieved all of that without an education and she was quite smart. Literally everything you said she did it whilst alive. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2021 2:26:19 GMT
I honestly think that if Diana had gotten at least her diploma (or the UK equivalent) during her marriage and if she had trained as a social worker, she would have been the best possible example of a modern royal with not just a good basic education, but actual qualifications. Imagine the impact she could have made and the life she would have been living. A genuine complete education and also a genuine fulfilling work life. She would have ended up being more hands on, building more substance, and also at the same time, would have filled her days better than with astrologers and shady types that she mixed with as a result of a life without real substantial direction. But she achieved all of that without an education and she was quite smart. Literally everything you said she did it whilst alive. While being treated like sh#t by the family that selected her for excellent pedigree. |
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Post by kueifei on Jan 9, 2021 2:46:45 GMT
I know exactly what it is to go through a lot of what she did and I went through it without her resources. My mother went through worse, without her resources. It tends to cause bias.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2021 3:22:14 GMT
I know exactly what it is to go through a lot of what she did and I went through it without her resources. My mother went through worse, without her resources. It tends to cause bias. Wow? Really? It's not like you bring up your personal struggles on nearly all of your posts... |
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Post by kueifei on Jan 10, 2021 3:39:56 GMT
Is that sarcasm or are you serious?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2021 6:10:31 GMT
Is that sarcasm or are you serious? I'm being serious. |
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Post by purple1 on Jan 10, 2021 7:14:25 GMT
But she achieved all of that without an education and she was quite smart. Literally everything you said she did it whilst alive. While being treated like sh#t by the family that selected her for excellent pedigree. Exactly right! |
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Post by india on Jan 10, 2021 17:30:38 GMT
I know exactly what it is to go through a lot of what she did and I went through it without her resources. My mother went through worse, without her resources. It tends to cause bias. Wow? Really? It's not like you bring up your personal struggles on nearly all of your posts... Remnder: Please be respectful of other poster's views. |
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Post by purple1 on Jan 11, 2021 2:45:06 GMT
As being “Princess Diana” does anyone know if it’s true people would bend over backwards to give her anything she wanted? Like not paying for hotels or clothing I mean outside of doing her royal duties? How was she still invited to countries even during her divorce?
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Post by kueifei on Jan 11, 2021 4:55:53 GMT
Good question. I honestly think that is a really good question. She did borrow instead of buy after her divorce, but it is clear that she was still getting her bills paid. She had rich friends though and she still had cachet as the mother of a future King (that she never let anyone forget).
Elton John Opens Up About Coping with Princess Diana's Death | The Oprah Winfrey Show | OWN
This was just last year. Elton is WAY too invested in Diana and her memory. It's been nearly thirty years and he talks about her as if he were some kind of family member that knew her so intimately that he is some kind of guardian of her memory. He was a genuine friend, I get that, but he really seems WAY too invested in the well being of the princes and I also believe that he can't quite seem to understand that he isn't Harry and William's father or blood relative and it is clear that the 'bond' Elton thought he had with Diana was entirely created in her own mind. I will never understand WHY Elton is so emotionally and psychologically invested in the royals. They do not consider him one of their own and it is clear that he and the others like him think they have some kind of secret inner knowledge. They don't. It's not like Diana ran with the Hollywood/entertainment set during her youth and it is clear that she never really quite figured out where she fit in post-divorce (a perfectly normal thing for a divorcee really) and even still, she never dated rock stars or actors during her time as a singleton.
I really think there is too much of some kind of need for a royal to be connected to popular culture and it is clear that this is a line that really should not be crossed. Diana was raised in an aristocratic estate, she was sent to schools that were NOT celeb-friendly, and she was NOT raised to expose herself unnecessarily. She was not weaned on PR and she was not at all someone who was who she was hyped to be. I have no idea how on earth Diana got labeled a 'pop princess' when she was anything but that. She was well trained in the piano (and just playing Rachmaninoff sounds excruciating) and well trained in the arts and was a fixture at top level society parties we know nothing of and yet, she was hyped as being a part of the wider, popular culture and it was also clear that she was well trained in protocol and etiquette in a way that is never accepted (she is always portrayed as knowing nothing of the royal way of life) and everyone successfully deluded themselves that Diana knew what it was the live the life of struggle and uncertainty that the rest of the world was weaned on. I do not believe that Elton realizes that if she had not been killed prematurely, that Diana would have likely (I hope) settled into a life that was not at all celebrity focused.
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Post by purple1 on Jan 11, 2021 15:35:32 GMT
Good question. I honestly think that is a really good question. She did borrow instead of buy after her divorce, but it is clear that she was still getting her bills paid. She had rich friends though and she still had cachet as the mother of a future King (that she never let anyone forget).
Elton John Opens Up About Coping with Princess Diana's Death | The Oprah Winfrey Show | OWN
This was just last year. Elton is WAY too invested in Diana and her memory. It's been nearly thirty years and he talks about her as if he were some kind of family member that knew her so intimately that he is some kind of guardian of her memory. He was a genuine friend, I get that, but he really seems WAY too invested in the well being of the princes and I also believe that he can't quite seem to understand that he isn't Harry and William's father or blood relative and it is clear that the 'bond' Elton thought he had with Diana was entirely created in her own mind. I will never understand WHY Elton is so emotionally and psychologically invested in the royals. They do not consider him one of their own and it is clear that he and the others like him think they have some kind of secret inner knowledge. They don't. It's not like Diana ran with the Hollywood/entertainment set during her youth and it is clear that she never really quite figured out where she fit in post-divorce (a perfectly normal thing for a divorcee really) and even still, she never dated rock stars or actors during her time as a singleton.
I really think there is too much of some kind of need for a royal to be connected to popular culture and it is clear that this is a line that really should not be crossed. Diana was raised in an aristocratic estate, she was sent to schools that were NOT celeb-friendly, and she was NOT raised to expose herself unnecessarily. She was not weaned on PR and she was not at all someone who was who she was hyped to be. I have no idea how on earth Diana got labeled a 'pop princess' when she was anything but that. She was well trained in the piano (and just playing Rachmaninoff sounds excruciating) and well trained in the arts and was a fixture at top level society parties we know nothing of and yet, she was hyped as being a part of the wider, popular culture and it was also clear that she was well trained in protocol and etiquette in a way that is never accepted (she is always portrayed as knowing nothing of the royal way of life) and everyone successfully deluded themselves that Diana knew what it was the live the life of struggle and uncertainty that the rest of the world was weaned on. I do not believe that Elton realizes that if she had not been killed prematurely, that Diana would have likely (I hope) settled into a life that was not at all celebrity focused.
I think what they mean is that since the 80s was known as the rise of pop culture and Diana being a princess in a meeting decade and a breath of fresh air she did hang out with a lot of pop and rock stars. So many photos so she was a part of pop culture but I agree with you that you can tell the difference between her and pop/rock stars. Diana had a very elegant aura and like you said she was raised differently. But I have to say even though she was raised in that background I do think she understood the plight of others. She was very caring and kind to those in need and wasn’t a racist at all. I really like how compassionate and loving towards “strangers”. Also I think after her divorce she started accepting freebies and yeah she got her bills paid for and an allowance that wasn’t going to be enough with The way she lived. Never heard of Diana being frugal. As being princess Diana of a former princess she still had enough clout that countries leaders invited her to their country and she also worked on befall of her charities. I honestly think the only difference between pre and post divorce was that a lot of the perks went away but she made up for it in another way? |
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Post by kueifei on Jan 12, 2021 2:54:21 GMT
She also ran with rich boyfriends. Hasnat would not have been able to afford the life she was used to and it is clear that she would not have been able to adjust to a life of middle class budgeting and there is no way that she would have accepted that Hasnat would not want to drop everything to horn in on the latest world crisis. He would not have been able to afford a yacht, or palatial homes and she might have been able to have Hasnat move into KP after a marriage, but that would have been awkward since she would have reverted to Lady Diana Khan, not Diana, Princess of Wales. Then there would have been the issue of how on earth could the husband of Diana end up coping with the reality of her more cosmopolitan life and Diana would have gone into full shock at the reality that she would have had struggles dealing with the huge drop in stature. She would have realized that she needed more than looks and charm and fashions sense and then of course, she would have been less regarded and less accepted as a world figure. Even being William's mother wouldn't have been enough and there would have been an additional anomaly to her position and I believe that she would have had serious issues handling the realization that the doors of politicians and other heads of state would close on her firmly and then there would be the fact that her impact would be muted as a charitable fundraiser and then there is the fact that without qualifications, she would have literally nothing to her name and she would become even more isolated. A lot of her celebrity buddies would drop her like a bad habit, since her royal status as consort and semi-royal status post-divorce would be gone completely and as the wife of a doctor, she wouldn't be able to afford to keep up with that plush lifestyle. Maybe even Elton would distance himself since let's face it, he's no democrat when it comes to social status. There is no way that Lady Diana Khan would be anyone of actual import and it's not like Elton would compose a romantic rewrite of a song originally dedicated to Marilyn Monroe. Lady Diana Khan would be to plebeian for him and I believe that it would come as the shock of her life that all her celebrity buddies would cut her out. Then the press would treat her with even more contemptuousness. There is no way the press would respect her motherhood and there is no way that she would have many royal defenders left.
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Post by purple1 on Jan 12, 2021 7:43:53 GMT
She also ran with rich boyfriends. Hasnat would not have been able to afford the life she was used to and it is clear that she would not have been able to adjust to a life of middle class budgeting and there is no way that she would have accepted that Hasnat would not want to drop everything to horn in on the latest world crisis. He would not have been able to afford a yacht, or palatial homes and she might have been able to have Hasnat move into KP after a marriage, but that would have been awkward since she would have reverted to Lady Diana Khan, not Diana, Princess of Wales. Then there would have been the issue of how on earth could the husband of Diana end up coping with the reality of her more cosmopolitan life and Diana would have gone into full shock at the reality that she would have had struggles dealing with the huge drop in stature. She would have realized that she needed more than looks and charm and fashions sense and then of course, she would have been less regarded and less accepted as a world figure. Even being William's mother wouldn't have been enough and there would have been an additional anomaly to her position and I believe that she would have had serious issues handling the realization that the doors of politicians and other heads of state would close on her firmly and then there would be the fact that her impact would be muted as a charitable fundraiser and then there is the fact that without qualifications, she would have literally nothing to her name and she would become even more isolated. A lot of her celebrity buddies would drop her like a bad habit, since her royal status as consort and semi-royal status post-divorce would be gone completely and as the wife of a doctor, she wouldn't be able to afford to keep up with that plush lifestyle. Maybe even Elton would distance himself since let's face it, he's no democrat when it comes to social status. There is no way that Lady Diana Khan would be anyone of actual import and it's not like Elton would compose a romantic rewrite of a song originally dedicated to Marilyn Monroe. Lady Diana Khan would be to plebeian for him and I believe that it would come as the shock of her life that all her celebrity buddies would cut her out. Then the press would treat her with even more contemptuousness. There is no way the press would respect her motherhood and there is no way that she would have many royal defenders left. So your believe even after her divorce she still wanted the same perks and privilege she was accustomed to during her marriage? |
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