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Post by purple1 on Feb 25, 2021 6:28:01 GMT
I think this pandemic has highlighted the painful fact that when there are times of REAL trouble, royals can't be relied on. I mean really, all that money is taxpayer money and oddly they do nothing but stash it away in foreign accounts and also cry poverty. I am fed up with hearing about how Charles can't afford something or shrieks about the cost of dry cleaning and then there is of course, the fact that their staff is paid gutter wages and clearly overworked. There is really no excuse and the so-called prestige doesn't have the same effect and it is clear that the Windsors are rolling in dough and prefer to just mooch as much as they can. If the royals wrote checks to food banks and paid the tuition bills of medical workers, that would do more than anything else to be blunt. It isn't even the Windsor's money anyway, that is taxpayer money. I do believe that I am fed up hearing about how they live a spartan life (BS) and I am fed up with how the Windsors are actually aghast at the thought of forking cash over in order to support their people. The UK government is strapped for cash since the Windsors have all of it and it is clear that the royals have no intention of stopping this constant taking of more and more money. So since the pandemic what do you think will happen to the Windsors? Like you said during times of trouble they are useless. People’s eyes have been opened finally. they didn’t do anything! Shows they are nothing more than celeb royals. |
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Post by purple1 on Feb 25, 2021 13:46:08 GMT
Random but although Audrey was a star if she had became a princess would she do away with being a star and firmly a princess?
How would a mediterranean Grace Kelly as a princess look like? Also what do you think of Princess Caroline? I thought she had much potential to be a great princess after her mother died but people don’t seem to have the same affection for her like her moth. She also married to Ernst who is a prince in the dethroned Hanover Monarchy so she goes by HRH Princess Caroline of Hanover which is weird since there isn’t anymore Hanover monarchy.
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Post by kueifei on Feb 25, 2021 20:15:52 GMT
Random but although Audrey was a star if she had became a princess would she do away with being a star and firmly a princess?
I honestly think that Audrey would have been a better princess and would have fit in better with the elites that Grace worked so hard to cultivate. As for acting, I have no idea what to think of that.
How would a mediterranean Grace Kelly as a princess look like?
I have no idea and I am too bummed out to care.
I just wish this mixing with 'celebrity' and royalty would end and it just does not work. Celebs are very often unstable and are very often troublesome and the more celebritized Diana got, the more unstable she became. I do not believe that it works since actors and actresses compensate for the low level of their profession for a major attitude problem. If I were a royal and I were married to an actor, chances are I would be in a state of chronic stress and mental fatigue mainly since they are on a whole, very unsettled people. Always getting worked up over something, always on the go, never home, and too many of them think way too much of themselves.
A major facet of how royals have become celebritized is how royals refuse to just let someone else shine. During one event honoring Sir Nicholas Winton in the Czech Republic, HM insisted on ging and kind of made the event as much about her as it was about Sir Nicholas. Then there is William and his determination to be front/center (along with his mommy issues) and even Meg is kind of guilty of this. I mean Meg hijacked a tour to complain about her issues with her new life and her issues with the press and it is clear that the royals of Norway and Sweden are often determined to be front/center at Nobel Prize ceremonies with the winners as a kind of side attraction despite the fact that the winners themselves are the ones who worked incredibly hard.
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Post by purple1 on Feb 25, 2021 20:34:14 GMT
Yep celebrities as I’ve gotten older a turn off with their constant need of attention and their unsettling ways. The saying goes any publicly is good publicity is obnoxious.
Same with royalty with their constant need of being center stage as if they are God or something. It’s annoying and quite frankly pathetic looking.
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Post by kueifei on Feb 25, 2021 21:34:51 GMT
I've watched clips of the Nobel Ceremony and the dinner, and the royals just sit among each other and do not really mingle with the rest of the guests there. It's this belief that they are just as good as the ones who earned that award is what is irritating. They aren't as good and certainly are not better.
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Post by purple1 on Feb 25, 2021 22:17:52 GMT
I've watched clips of the Nobel Ceremony and the dinner, and the royals just sit among each other and do not really mingle with the rest of the guests there. It's this belief that they are just as good as the ones who earned that award is what is irritating. They aren't as good and certainly are not better. It’s why these modern royals today aren’t well known for anything other than being “royal”. Like if I were in their positions I would do anything in my power to do great things. |
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Post by kueifei on Feb 26, 2021 0:02:52 GMT
If I had a chance to mingle with Nobel Laureates, I would be doing all I could to convince them to reside in my country and set up academic curriculum and teach gifted kids and write books and do lectures. I also think that it would be awesome if a royal actively recruited laureates to give views on government and other various forms of policy. I also think that it would be awesome to have them invent stuff and that way it would benefit the prestige of the nation to own the patents and therefore bring in cash and who knows what else.
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Post by Admin on Feb 26, 2021 0:31:38 GMT
Random but although Audrey was a star if she had became a princess would she do away with being a star and firmly a princess? How would a mediterranean Grace Kelly as a princess look like? Also what do you think of Princess Caroline? I thought she had much potential to be a great princess after her mother died but people don’t seem to have the same affection for her like her moth. She also married to Ernst who is a prince in the dethroned Hanover Monarchy so she goes by HRH Princess Caroline of Hanover which is weird since there isn’t anymore Hanover monarchy. A FB/ online friend from years back (used to post on his online blog about another star) wrote a book about Audrey Hepburn. I would recommend getting it if you are interested in knowing more about her.  |
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Post by Admin on Feb 26, 2021 0:33:38 GMT
I've watched clips of the Nobel Ceremony and the dinner, and the royals just sit among each other and do not really mingle with the rest of the guests there. It's this belief that they are just as good as the ones who earned that award is what is irritating. They aren't as good and certainly are not better. Recent ones or going back some years? I've seen many pictures of the previous King (prior to 1973) and the RF was super-involved and seemed very respectful and deferential towards the Nobel winners.     |
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Post by kueifei on Feb 26, 2021 3:26:41 GMT
I've watched clips of the Nobel Ceremony and the dinner, and the royals just sit among each other and do not really mingle with the rest of the guests there. It's this belief that they are just as good as the ones who earned that award is what is irritating. They aren't as good and certainly are not better. Recent ones or going back some years? I've seen many pictures of the previous King (prior to 1973) and the RF was super-involved and seemed very respectful and deferential towards the Nobel winners.
What happened then? What on earth happened where the royals are condescending or ignoring the laureates? CP Victoria can wink at her husband, but has no interest in mingling with the winners of the awards? A great many of them have gotten this Nobel as a culmination of their life's work and they are ignored by the royals instead of listened to.
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Post by Admin on Feb 26, 2021 4:33:35 GMT
What happened then? What on earth happened where the royals are condescending or ignoring the laureates? CP Victoria can wink at her husband, but has no interest in mingling with the winners of the awards? A great many of them have gotten this Nobel as a culmination of their life's work and they are ignored by the royals instead of listened to.
Like any modern royal, they are enamoured of the glamour of their positions, and love the positive attention?
It's a shame if they are condescending or in any way dismissive or ignoring the culmination of so much work and effort. The previous King was a well-known scholar/well-educated man who had a sincere interest in many fields - here's a quote from wikipedia: "The King's reputation as a "professional amateur professor" was widely known; nationally and internationally, and among his relatives. Gustaf VI Adolf was a devoted archaeologist, and was admitted to the British Academy for his work in botany in 1958. Gustaf VI Adolf participated in archaeological expeditions in China, Greece, Korea and Italy, and founded the Swedish Institute in Rome.
Gustaf VI Adolf had an enormous private library consisting of 80 000 volumes and – nearly more impressively – he actually had read the main part of the books. He had an interest in specialist literature on Chinese art and East Asian history. Throughout his life, King Gustaf VI Adolf was particularly interested in the history of civilization, and he participated in several archaeological expeditions. "
Apparently, Victoria, her brother, her father, an aunt, and grandfather suffer(ed) from dyslexia - I don't know if or how that could possibly play a part? But even if one is essentially out of their element with very gifted and accomplished individuals from all fields, at least display proper manners/graciousness on what is really somebody else's special day.
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Post by kueifei on Feb 26, 2021 14:18:46 GMT
Apparently, Victoria, her brother, her father, an aunt, and grandfather suffer(ed) from dyslexia - I don't know if or how that could possibly play a part? But even if one is essentially out of their element with very gifted and accomplished individuals from all fields, at least display proper manners/graciousness on what is really somebody else's special day.
With their resources, being dyslexic shouldn't stop them and quite frankly, I have a learning disability and I found a way to handle the processing of information and I don't have palaces and millions in my bank account. As for that special day, I TOTALLY AGREE! People work for a lifetime and these people are too busy kissing each other's arse to honor, really honor, the people who have worked hard their ENTIRE lives. That much is obvious.
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Post by purple1 on Feb 26, 2021 14:52:29 GMT
Random but although Audrey was a star if she had became a princess would she do away with being a star and firmly a princess? How would a mediterranean Grace Kelly as a princess look like? Also what do you think of Princess Caroline? I thought she had much potential to be a great princess after her mother died but people don’t seem to have the same affection for her like her moth. She also married to Ernst who is a prince in the dethroned Hanover Monarchy so she goes by HRH Princess Caroline of Hanover which is weird since there isn’t anymore Hanover monarchy. A FB/ online friend from years back (used to post on his online blog about another star) wrote a book about Audrey Hepburn. I would recommend getting it if you are interested in knowing more about her. She lived like a princess  |
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Post by purple1 on Feb 26, 2021 14:53:50 GMT
What happened then? What on earth happened where the royals are condescending or ignoring the laureates? CP Victoria can wink at her husband, but has no interest in mingling with the winners of the awards? A great many of them have gotten this Nobel as a culmination of their life's work and they are ignored by the royals instead of listened to.Like any modern royal, they are enamoured of the glamour of their positions, and love the positive attention? It's a shame if they are condescending or in any way dismissive or ignoring the culmination of so much work and effort. The previous King was a well-known scholar/well-educated man who had a sincere interest in many fields - here's a quote from wikipedia: "The King's reputation as a "professional amateur professor" was widely known; nationally and internationally, and among his relatives. Gustaf VI Adolf was a devoted archaeologist, and was admitted to the British Academy for his work in botany in 1958. Gustaf VI Adolf participated in archaeological expeditions in China, Greece, Korea and Italy, and founded the Swedish Institute in Rome. Gustaf VI Adolf had an enormous private library consisting of 80 000 volumes and – nearly more impressively – he actually had read the main part of the books. He had an interest in specialist literature on Chinese art and East Asian history. Throughout his life, King Gustaf VI Adolf was particularly interested in the history of civilization, and he participated in several archaeological expeditions. " Apparently, Victoria, her brother, her father, an aunt, and grandfather suffer(ed) from dyslexia - I don't know if or how that could possibly play a part? But even if one is essentially out of their element with very gifted and accomplished individuals from all fields, at least display proper manners/graciousness on what is really somebody else's special day. I agree it’s the thought of glamour and seen as something special. |
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Post by kueifei on Feb 27, 2021 4:31:07 GMT
Thing is, that fame for them isn't enough and neither is wealth. They basically want respect, real respect, but regrettably they do not at all want to get the kind of education and training and work extra hard to prove that they are just as good as those who come from less privilege. It is clear that none of them have any idea how to work that since like a celebrity, their needs are catered to and they are not trained and educated in learning these practical skills themselves and it is clear that they have no idea how to pull anything together. Many of them do not even write their own speeches. They literally have no idea on the reality of the 'other half' and while that wouldn't normally matter nor would the other half care, but they are constantly demanding more say in international issues and they are constantly trying for the kind of respect that actual diplomats and actual politicians work hard to earn.
No one can begrudge anyone who comes from a privileged background (since a lot of politicos come from prominence and privilege), but royals do not put in the work, the training, and the sacrifice that comes with position of actual power. Like celebs they seem increasingly desperate for press instead of eager to put in long hours of study and charity (actual) work and pull strings to provide opportunities for those who prove themselves.
If William had gotten an education in law or something other than art/geography, he would have ended up better off; if he had spent his summers at the Prince's Trust or at least in Scotland (during his schooling years ) doing charity work, real work, than he would have ended up so much more substantial and quite frankly, I am sick of and tired of this 'normalcy' BS. Royals need to own their privilege and own their luck and have the decency to work as hard as any prominent scion of any powerful family that knows they have to work to prove they are just as good as their colleagues and they do it to uphold the family name. If William had had a more 'American' upbringing (something that is sneered at for some reason and it is something that I am honestly sick and tired of) he would have been harder working and would have been unable to get away with slacking off.
In the States, among prominent families, there is HUGE pressure to do well and huge pressure to live up to the accomplishments of their ancestors. William would almost never have survived an American university environment and it is clear that he really has failed. Like an entertainer, he apparently has problems functioning as a royal since he has never been required to get educated and trained in where everything he has comes from. It is clear that William was coddled in ways that were not supposed to be done for a prince.
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Post by purple1 on Feb 27, 2021 15:09:44 GMT
Well respect is earned not given. Doesn’t matter if your a royal or a future king if you don’t put in the work then people won’t respect you. I know that’s all royals wants.
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Post by india on Feb 27, 2021 17:55:02 GMT
Willy Boy has a bad case of arrested development.
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Post by purple1 on Feb 27, 2021 18:36:56 GMT
Another thing it’s obvious these royals want to be a hybrid of royalty and celebrity. Also now thinking about it, I think Grace did a great job with using her celebrity to do well as a princess.
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Post by kueifei on Feb 28, 2021 5:14:20 GMT
It never works both ways. Royals need to stop thinking that being rich and famous and titled is enough and they need to start filling in those gaps. They need to recognize too that they all have limitations.
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Post by purple1 on Feb 28, 2021 15:58:50 GMT
It never works both ways. Royals need to stop thinking that being rich and famous and titled is enough and they need to start filling in those gaps. They need to recognize too that they all have limitations. Filling what gaps? |
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tale BS.
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