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Post by Admin on Jan 13, 2022 23:28:28 GMT
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Post by kueifei on Jan 14, 2022 7:16:17 GMT
Kate sounds like she has an exhibitionist disorder. Look at France, she KNEW the camera was there, but did it anyway and was nude around staff. She is MESSED UP and William just HAD to let her worm her way into his marital bed.
Since she was doing this 90 times and so on, plus her 'history' of showing 'herself' off as a yacht girl with short short short shorts, I would have to say that Kate is a deeply disturbed woman and not in a funny way. She was likely someone who was doing this at school too and I wonder if she changed schools in regards to Downe House because she was a problem student, not a victim of bullying. She might have been behaving inappropriately and I am certain that it is possible that she was asked to leave or would be expelled. Something went down, big time. Combined with her inability to hold a job or even WANT to hold a job, I am certain that she has underlying issues that would make Jodi Arias look sane by comparison.
I am not even joking or being funny. University wilding is one thing, but France and numerous other experiences and then her slavering all over Harry, sick sick sick.
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Post by Admin on Jan 14, 2022 13:11:23 GMT
Kate sounds like she has an exhibitionist disorder. Look at France, she KNEW the camera was there, but did it anyway and was nude around staff. She is MESSED UP and William just HAD to let her worm her way into his marital bed. Since she was doing this 90 times and so on, plus her 'history' of showing 'herself' off as a yacht girl with short short short shorts, I would have to say that Kate is a deeply disturbed woman and not in a funny way. She was likely someone who was doing this at school too and I wonder if she changed schools in regards to Downe House because she was a problem student, not a victim of bullying. She might have been behaving inappropriately and I am certain that it is possible that she was asked to leave or would be expelled. Something went down, big time. Combined with her inability to hold a job or even WANT to hold a job, I am certain that she has underlying issues that would make Jodi Arias look sane by comparison. I am not even joking or being funny. University wilding is one thing, but France and numerous other experiences and then her slavering all over Harry, sick sick sick.
I know you are not joking - seems like this pattern of behaviour runs deep and goes back to her childhood. Maybe even then acting act over her family pressures and/or dysfunction? 90 times? That's beyond excessive.
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Post by kueifei on Jan 14, 2022 15:19:31 GMT
90 times would be three times a day for a straight month, or stretched over would mean that she was doing this over a long term period. I think she was acting out not just some kind of grooming, but the nonstop pressure she was under. Go figure, William married a woman he was trying to avoid. Thing is, that if she's trying to come across as sexually daring or adventurous, it isn't working at all. I do not think that she has been functional for a long time and it is clear that William is married to a dangerously unstable woman. His security team even supposedly talked to her because she was around William all the time, where he was and oddly St. Andrews did not take action to have Kate removed from the school. I also think that she's psychotically fixated on Rose Hanbury for some deranged reason and I also think that Kate had more red flags than a Chinese new year festival. She is sick and I think she's been a sick influence in William's life and before uni William looked like he could thrive just fine, but he went to uni (bad decision) and ended up where he is now.
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Post by Admin on Jan 16, 2022 3:10:04 GMT
Aside: A very old item (2013) www.celebitchy.com/319660/did_kate_middleton_really_change_her_university_plans_to_stalk_prince_william/Did Kate Middleton really change her university plans to stalk Prince William? September 02, 2013 By Kaiser Kate Middleton, Prince WilliamKate and William met before university: Kate and William first met in the summer of 1999 in the ‘den’ at the prince’s country estate, the new book reveals. Two years before she went to St Andrews, Kate was introduced to the Glosse Posse, a group of friends who regularly met at Highgrove, in Gloucestershire. She was introduced to the group by her Marlborough College friend Emilia d’Erlanger. In the book, Kate’s house mistress Ann Patching explains how: ‘We all knew as teachers that that year group was moving in Royal circles, that they were friends.’ The book also reveals how while working in the summer before she started at university, Kate told a colleague how she had already met the Prince ‘once or twice’.
Kate stalked William all the way to university: The new book untangles the tale of how Kate came to choose St Andrews for her university – starting at the same time as William and on the same course. It has previously been put down to mere coincidence, but it seems Kate deliberately plotted to be there at the same time as the prince. Jasper Selwyn, a careers adviser at Kate’s former school, Marlborough College, and Joan Gall, her house tutor, confirm in the book that her first choice was not St Andrews at all, but Edinburgh. Despite achieving the required grades for Edinburgh, one of the country’s top universities, she changed her mind after William’s own choice of university was made public. In a bold move, Kate turned down the place she had been offered at Edinburgh, decided to take a gap year, just as William was doing, and reapply for St Andrews – a risky strategy as there was no guarantee that she would get a place.
In 2009, Carole basically told William he needed to propose to Kate: Katie Nicholl reveals how ‘jittery’ Carole, worried about the absence of a ring on Kate’s finger, took Prince William aside to press him on his plans. The meeting took place when William visited the Middleton family just before Christmas 2009. A family friend tells how Carole expressed her fears to William. But he assured her that not only would there be an engagement and subsequent marriage, the couple hoped to have children – and he promised Carole that she would be fully involved in their upbringing. Another of the Middletons’ friends, former neighbour George Brown, says: ‘It was a condition when Kate and William got married that Carole and Michael would be a part of the grandchildren’s lives.’
“Secret charity work”: In another fascinating insight into the Royal romance, the book reveals that although Kate has taken on a higher public profile since her marriage, she in fact began doing secret charity work six years ago. In 2007 the Queen quietly suggested to William that Kate get involved with a charity, and they both considered it an excellent idea. The Middletons’ family firm, Party Pieces, already had a connection with Starlight, a children’s charity which grants terminally ill children a once-in-a-lifetime wish. Kate arranged to meet the charity’s chief executive officer Neil Swan to see how she could help more. He said: ‘Kate was working with Party Pieces at the time and she came up with a clever idea for a party bag that doubled up as a colouring-in gift. She also designed some Starlight-themed crayons and other bits and pieces to go in the bags. To us, she was just Kate, and we would go and have meetings with her at Party Pieces, and sometimes she would come to us. She came up with lots of creative ideas for parties that we were arranging for sick children, and she did a lot of work below the radar.’
“Secret charity work” Part II: It is also revealed that Kate made numerous secret visits to the Naomi House children’s hospice in Hampshire. She would drive to the hospice bearing gifts for the children, and would spend hours reading and playing with them.
Kate was “humiliated” in 2007 when William went out partying with other women: The couple’s relationship was briefly put on hold after Kate confronted William about his partying, the book reveals. She was left ‘humiliated’ after pictures were published of William with two girls at a nightclub in Poole, where he had been posted for a tank commander’s course. There had also been earlier reports he had been dancing with another women at Boujis nightclub, in London.[From The Daily Mail)
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Post by Admin on Jan 16, 2022 3:13:31 GMT
Some comments:Anna says: September 2, 2013 at 7:47 am JUICY! If it’s true, I gotta give her points for her game. But I still want this to be a true-love fairytale:) T.Fanty says: September 2, 2013 at 9:08 am And sadly, it’s now starting to read like a high-end Kardashian storyline. Pimp Mama Karole! Anna says: September 2, 2013 at 9:30 am Oh yeah, that part’s been coming through for some time now. TG says: September 2, 2013 at 12:16 pm I was initially annoyed that the Kartrashians would dare to compare themselves to the Prince and Princess but I have come to the realization the PMK and Carole are cut from the same cloth. I mean both Kim and Kate moved in with mommy after baby. It doesn’t get any more co-dependent than that. I bet Carole won’t give 2 cents about Pippa’s engagement and subsequent grandchildren, just like PMK could care less about Khloe and Khourtney and their offspring. I expect to see baby North shoved in front of Prince George in about 18 years. Tapioca says: September 2, 2013 at 7:56 am Hey, you could argue that it’s harder to become a princess than it is to become a doctor/investment banker/lawyer, as there are so few princes to go around! Suze says: September 2, 2013 at 8:11 am Exactly! You have to go to school for nine long years to become a princess. Hey, the woman’s got game and she can execute the long term plan. I’m more intrigued by the “secret” charity work. Why is it a secret? It would be excellent P R for Kate if it were more public. Anna says: September 2, 2013 at 8:13 am Suze, it’s secret so that later down the line they could promote the fact that she did it out of the goodness of her heart and not to seek any kind of credit. Emily says: September 2, 2013 at 8:51 am This will probably sound very cynical, but I think it’s “secret” because it didn’t happen. LAK says: September 2, 2013 at 9:18 am Regarding this ‘secret’ charity work, isn’t it amazing that this very same journalist wrote an article back in the day in which she detailed Kate’s lack of interest in charity work, how she never bothered replying to charities asking for her help, even if there was a dinner involved. And her get-out clause was always that the palace forbade her. Eventually, The palace let it be known that they weren’t standing in Kate’s way. And now, mysteriously, Kate was ‘secretly’ working in charity all along!!! Methinks Katie Nicholls is buttering both sides ie giving some of the real story whilst pushing people’s princess2.0 that she’s always pushed on the middleton’s behalf. This new book contradicts her old book and VF articles significantly. bluhare says: September 2, 2013 at 12:23 pm It makes little sense to me that Kate did charity work “secretly”. Her office has said she does work “secretly” since she’s been married to try to stop the negative publicity about her lack of engagements. So this smells of a little history rewriting to make her girlfriend days a little less William absorbed. LAK says: September 2, 2013 at 5:37 pm Suze – Just for you. Article from 2008. www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1048599/And-DO-Queen-wants-Kate-Middleton-charity-job-counter-claims-workshy.htmlThis article was written by the very same person now telling us that Kate was secretly doing alot of charity work. extract: “It is understood that Kate has been approached by several charities to represent them, including a number involving children, but she has yet to accept any of the roles. At present, her only charity work is as a committee member of a roller-disco fundraising event for Oxford Children’s Hospital.” And here is the article and pictures from that charity event. www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1057283/Portrait-future-Queen-England-Kate-Middletons-tumble-roller-disco.html
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Post by kueifei on Jan 16, 2022 4:22:28 GMT
You know, I find it CREEPY that Kate was so desperate to be controlled by the palace during her single years; she wanted the palace to dictate her life and now here we are. I am also certain that it is creepy that the documentaries talked about how the palace would sue on her behalf of Kate felt harassed and there were several times when the palace came out and had to reiterate that Kate was not under any official protection and wasn't at all guided by them. She wasn't their responsibility.
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Post by Admin on Jan 17, 2022 14:08:45 GMT
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Post by Admin on Jan 17, 2022 14:10:04 GMT
Aside: Will also post this in the relevant Sussex section, too.
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Post by Admin on Jan 18, 2022 2:02:25 GMT
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Post by Admin on Jan 19, 2022 14:20:33 GMT
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Post by kueifei on Jan 20, 2022 17:50:47 GMT
One thing that stands out about Kate is her pushing from more and more out of everyone around her.
She got a limitless stream of Issa dresses; she got a discount on a leased car, a BMW no less; she likely got steep discounts at places she shopped and she surely got freebies from other places that wanted her to highlight their companies. She turned none of that down. She also decidedly ended up mooching off of William at uni via moving into that house with him (despite the fact that she was not paying rent/groceries/utilities/security) and I also believe that she used William to get away with allegedly cheating/slacking off in school and then there were the vacations via private jet and also access to clubs that would have never even let her stand in line waiting for access. Then there is the fact that she was riding in protected vehicles and likely enjoyed access to palace grounds as well.
Thing is, that the more Kate got, the more she wanted and hustled for and that is a CLEAR RED FLAG that she was a user. She got a ton of stuff and grubbed for more. Then she had the gall to whine about press coverage despite the fact it was common knowledge that she and Niraji Tanna were in fact in cahoots.
One of the clearest red flags of a user is that the more they get from you, the more they want to get OUT of you. They treat generosity as a permission slip to ask for more. Like a pushy boyfriend who wants to try to get more out of the girlfriend sexually, we all know this. She had more red flags than a Chinese New Year and William refused to see them since he prefers to see people through the perspective of the media and the media is often easily bought.
Throughout the relationship, post-graduation, Kate kept trying to get the palace to take care of her, references palace constrictions so much that the palace came out and said that Kate was not a member of the BRF and therefore, was not at all under their protection or supervision. I also remember reading that once Kate started using the legal firm that the palace used, a huge fuss was made by the press about how Kate was being under the wing of the palace since she was using the same firm. Go figure, the palace strenuously denied that she was under their wing and was denying engagements up until William flipped that.
More than anything else, Kate had luck on her side, not so much anything else. William was weak in a lot of areas and kept her on, without seeking help to get rid of her if he didn't want her anymore.
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Post by Admin on Jan 20, 2022 18:34:18 GMT
One thing that stands out about Kate is her pushing from more and more out of everyone around her.
She got a limitless stream of Issa dresses; she got a discount on a leased car, a BMW no less; she likely got steep discounts at places she shopped and she surely got freebies from other places that wanted her to highlight their companies. She turned none of that down. She also decidedly ended up mooching off of William at uni via moving into that house with him (despite the fact that she was not paying rent/groceries/utilities/security) and I also believe that she used William to get away with allegedly cheating/slacking off in school and then there were the vacations via private jet and also access to clubs that would have never even let her stand in line waiting for access. Then there is the fact that she was riding in protected vehicles and likely enjoyed access to palace grounds as well.
Thing is, that the more Kate got, the more she wanted and hustled for and that is a CLEAR RED FLAG that she was a user. She got a ton of stuff and grubbed for more. Then she had the gall to whine about press coverage despite the fact it was common knowledge that she and Niraji Tanna were in fact in cahoots.
One of the clearest red flags of a user is that the more they get from you, the more they want to get OUT of you. They treat generosity as a permission slip to ask for more. Like a pushy boyfriend who wants to try to get more out of the girlfriend sexually, we all know this. She had more red flags than a Chinese New Year and William refused to see them since he prefers to see people through the perspective of the media and the media is often easily bought. Throughout the relationship, post-graduation, Kate kept trying to get the palace to take care of her, references palace constrictions so much that the palace came out and said that Kate was not a member of the BRF and therefore, was not at all under their protection or supervision. I also remember reading that once Kate started using the legal firm that the palace used, a huge fuss was made by the press about how Kate was being under the wing of the palace since she was using the same firm. Go figure, the palace strenuously denied that she was under their wing and was denying engagements up until William flipped that. More than anything else, Kate had luck on her side, not so much anything else. William was weak in a lot of areas and kept her on, without seeking help to get rid of her if he didn't want her anymore.
I knew personally that Kate and her family were pushing themselves as "the royal family" or getting the benefits of their protection way before Kate ever married into the family. Trust me - they have been promoting themselves for the longest time. There was an account by a school chum at St. Andrews (has she ever had a real friend?) about alleged plagiarizing and copying off others during tests. This person recounted that after she noticed this, she deliberately put wrong answers, that Kate, in all her ignorance and natural stupidity, would copy ie: What was the year of the attack on Pearl Harbor? 1492...you get the drift. Of course, this account is nowhere to be found on the internet, unless it was scrubbed like SO many accounts were. And also, a recount of alleged plagiarizing. Nice way to earn a degree, Waity. She had more red flags than a Chinese New Year This is hilarious, by the way. She's a classic parasite - a user and con-artist. Pathetic that all this energy she wastes in using people could be spent, oh, helping out at a charity, hospital, studying or learning a trade, you name it, but now that she and her pathetic and tawdry low-grade excuse of a family have their M#ddleton snouts in the trough, continued efforts/taxpayer money/time/energy have to be spent in cleaning up her image and making sure future cr@tch-flashing swindler, user, and alleged phony mother Queen Wasty doesn't have to be held account for the damage she has done to others most of her natural life. All this waste of resources and energy - all to clean up for this parasite, for want of a better word. Has one person ever been this protected? Is she really worth it? Actual royal family members are being pushed out (sometimes due to their own actions, of course), but, still, REAL royal members are being forced out of the family fold. Why is this cr@tch-flashing disgrace not held to account?
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Post by kueifei on Jan 20, 2022 19:27:21 GMT
HM is the reason that this happened. HM never did learn to assert herself, much less take control. HM failed to learn how to handle users like this and after Diana bridged the gap between royalty and celebrity, it has been a huge mess and the princes never did have much of a chance of becoming fit for decent women, much less a position that is usually closely connected to geopolitics. HM is disconnected from the realities that there are people out there who are getting easier access to royals because royals refuse to stay in areas of life where they are safe and modern royals have no real stamina for setting and maintaining boundaries. A huge issue here is that the palace old guard was not prepared to handle Kate and regrettably anyone who could was cut out because they weren't old enough. At the risk of being flamed, HM is too old for her position that requires stamina she was not trained to have. I also think that the courtiers were not young enough to handle someone as persistent as Kate and were not at all equipped to deal with the modern media. Charles could have put a stop to it, but regrettably Charles is castrated from doing anything and since the palace hires only according to HM's standards, no one tough is hired or respected enough to be able to do an effective job. The Queen is weak, Kate and Carole were tough and it is clear that might was going to win out since William was too weak to cut her stalking arse out of his life. HM lost out to Diana in the PR war because Diana was ruthless and unscrupulous and HM insisted on adhering to a formula that was out of date and out of step with the more ruthless nature that Diana had (although her fans would never admit that their saint had a demonic side).
Also, most importantly, Kate controlled William sexually. William could have hired a courtesan, but regrettably William made the misstep of choosing to pretend that he could live a middle class life. He also chose to skip work and party at places he should have outgrown.
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Post by Admin on Feb 2, 2022 13:52:58 GMT
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Post by kueifei on Feb 3, 2022 4:11:23 GMT
I find it intriguing that William was never trained to spot users, that only reveal themselves over time. No one can spot a user a mile away (Diana was famous for saying that she could spot a user the minute she met them, one of the many things she was wrong about) and William was not trained to face the warning signs and put substance and to reach out for help. Users can't be spotted right away and instincts can be wrong. Kate didn't wear a red flag on her chest and she didn't come with a label. The minute William started being told that she could be trusted to be discreet, that should have told him everything any man with a brain would know and it should have been something that should have left him wary. Second, I am sure he was fully informed about her and if he had problems reconciling reality with the image, he should have sought help. Third, the palace was grossly irresponsible in leaving him to fend for himself and not making sure he had a protective barrier with him that would prevent women like Kate worming her way into his own home and not paying rent and not at all respecting boundaries. William should have been undergoing the process of getting used to being surrounded by people who were there to keep the users out of his life and it was horrifically negligent that he was allowed to be taken advantage of by Kate and who knows who else.
I would have horsewhipped William for being stupid, but he should have been protected from himself.
HM grew up in a protective bubble and in a culture where certain lines were just not crossed. HM regrettably still lives mentally/emotionally in that era. I do not think that HM even wanted to face the need for Charles to be assigned as the role of final authority over William and I am certain that Charles would have put a stop to a lot of Kate's mooching before graduation.
There is no way that William could handle someone like Kate and Kate reminds me of the character "Victor Hugo" in the Netflix series "Halston." Victor was an escort who worked Halston's sexuality to the point where Halston was always giving and giving and eventually Victor gave Halston AIDS. Kate is the same.
Kate worked her way in sexually, started mooching a little and kept pushing for more. Kate hasn't given William AIDS as far as I know, but I do think that Kate is a very volatile, unstable presence in William's life and William is deteriorating from the long term affects. If Kate doesn't get what she wants, she throws a fit until William breaks and gives in.
Kate is a broken woman and took a fragile prince and broke him as well. Kate was broken before uni and there is no way that she can be fixed at this point in time. I also think her recent announcement of not working for ten to fifteen years was a test to see if she could get away with it and the palace must have flipped and told her that it wasn't going to fly and that would explain her recent slew of engagements.
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Post by romilly on Feb 16, 2022 7:34:42 GMT
It surprised everyone that he didn’t also spot Carole Middleton as the alleged biggest user of all time. Along with her daughter they determinedly reeled naive and grieving William in with the ‘happy family’ scenario with Carol(e) clucking sympathetically with her viper tongue over late night cocoa and his favourite cheese on toast. The only real thing it did for him was to turn him in to a weak global laughing stock. Much of this is alleged to be coming out in Harry’s ‘shocking’ book and new interviews.
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Post by Admin on Feb 19, 2022 3:41:45 GMT
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Post by sanka on Feb 20, 2022 2:58:10 GMT
I don't recall KM getting protection during the pre-engagement days. I thought her parents did pay for some security because of the paps surrounding the flat in London.
PH & MM made a decision to step down so why should the taxpayer pay for their security. Just another whinge from the both of them but I suspect PH may want to take the 'children' back to the UK for the memorial service... maybe even stay longer.
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Post by Admin on Feb 23, 2022 3:34:13 GMT
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