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Post by Admin on Nov 22, 2022 1:28:14 GMT
I think it IS high-time the Sussexes had their titles, stripped. And, no, obviously, NOT STOP THERE, but let's settle one duo at a time, and then get the ball rolling for others who should have been given the royal heave-ho years ago.
I guess I have officially had it, and the Sussexes have landed on my last nerve. Why them, pray tell, some who lurk here but obviously don't have the courage to post anything back? It's because they are so blatantly and openly undermining the Monarchy that has given them EVERYTHING. They even have their so-called fair-weather pals and press co-horts/allies to back them up, and help them bite back the hand the has fed their pomposity and arrogance, not to mention, delusions of grandeur. Yes, so any Sussex stans who cannot take this, well, I don't even care what you may or may not think. To you the BRF and Monarchy is all about one latter day American actress, who, until a few years ago, seemed to respect and love her father, had NO issues with racism/sexism in her chosen field, and had a more or less regular paycheque and life. I literallly had never heard of her before she set her mark on Harry. Most people hadn't.
NOW, apparently the BRF is rife with racism, etc, etc, etc, and all because Meghan says so. Poor pampered thing was in a nest of vipers? I don't think so. She sure was welcomed well and seemed to be embraced by many members of the family. People seem to forget this - she had it VERY good, and was given special treatment because she was a long ways from home.
Stans and others seem to forget that THEY and other Meghan supporters don't get to dictate how any other family/government/institution is supposed to act, if they are not one of it's members/citizens or have any personal investment. With all due respect, they are hardly that invested and if any of their insensible ramblings on social media, FB, Sh#tter, Instagram or WHEREVER show, that they can hardly think beyond Meghan IS the British Monarchy, or it was nothing until SHE came along and initiated some much needed changes. Excuse me? All this in the course of a few years? Really?
And, she never seemed to have any real issues with so-called racism (which of course is real, but calling it out at every last turn in the road is both highly insulting and demeaning to everyone) in her past life. I have to question why she suddenly seemed to loathe her father, and yes, her mother apparently does have an expunged record, no matter what you feel about things. You cannot expunge the truth. Why this need, that only started with she hooked up with Harry, to start regularly playing the so-called "race card"? She openly sought out British men, in fact, Harry was allegedly her "3rd" British pick. From the beginning she even seems to be like Kate, having very few true, honest female friends, and even those seemed to get the heave-ho, whenever a Clooney, Elton John, Beckham, Oprah or whoever, needed to be sought out and cozied up to. Always, and ALWAYS somebody who could potentially do something for her. (Why in blazes was Oprah doing at the wedding? Why are we all now subjected to Soho hanger-on and semi-literate self-processed "royal expert" but now plastic surgery nightmare Omid Scobie? Questions for the ages...)
But I digress...
And no doubt, the particularly rapid stans will no doubt have a lot of issues with this op-ed. Can't we all just embrace this strong, noble and intelligent woman of colour and role model? Granted, like any person who has strived to make their mark, they do deserve accolades and respect for what they are honestly trying to do. Meghan is no monster, but she has gotten way more attention than she has ever warranted. And believe it or not, it's only because she married Harry that she is able to get her so-called "brand", goals, and aspirations across to a world-wide audience. Imagine the rest of us who just have to go on and obtain our our goals with seemingly no help and little interest from the outside world. I would love a great big advance for the book I am writing, that has been a work in progress for years. i know established authors who have been working on or have worked on their own books for years. THESE people know what they were writing about; I would like to express that I have been studying royalty for a few decades and I have a lot of information to share, if I was ever so lucky not to be almost ignored because I don't (yet!) have a vast, world-wide audience who would follow me. But no, people are not too interested in anything other than how Harry/Meghan are eternal victims, the BRF is a racist cesspool, and my, look at model mother Kate's newest outfit. And Harry, barely more literate than Soho Scobie, gets a $20,000,000 advance, for doing little more than dropping out of Diana? That's obscene. So. spare me if I am getting more and more fed up with a duo that I used to have "some" compassion for. I have wavered back and forth, and I still believe they were bullied out of the BRF for reasons outlined in many, many other posts, but they have just pushed too many buttons and gone too far with the victim act.
Showing more regard for celebrities and whoever is handing them awards, etc, than for real family members who just may have been going through hard, grievious times? Not good. So what if an Elton John offers you one of his houses to crash in? Who cares about the millionaires/billionaires banking you? If they are great enough for you to thank openly, how about thanking the fathers, who quite frankly, made up for having 2 rather screwy and not as great as claimed mothers?
Who cares what Oprah, or Amal Clooney, or any Kennedy has to say about the BRF? WHAT do they even know about it? These people, with their own dysfunctional family backgrounds, shouldn't be sticking their noses in places where they don't even belong. They know that King Charles, or any other member of the family is going to address them or speak up for themselves, and it's not right that they run full speed with whatever Meghan and Led by the nose 'Arry are feeding them.
It's time to strip the titles and see how they manage without continually running for cover underneath them, so to speak.
Next special op-ed, the Cambridge family edition.
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Post by kueifei on Nov 22, 2022 6:03:05 GMT
AMEN AMEN AMEN!!!
Time to remove titles from them. No more "HRH" and no more anything like protection from the palace. It's not like Harry or Meg are doing anything on Charles' behalf and I am lately more beside myself that Harry and Meg should have lasted at least through HM's final years, but wouldn't do even that. Then there is the fact that aside from leaving and dealing a blow that HM clearly couldn't cope with, they INSISTED on badmouthing the family and taking nonstop shots. Yes, WK were jerks about it, but all Harry and Meg had to do was let it blow over and not make it into something worse.
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Post by sanka on Nov 24, 2022 5:42:50 GMT
Agree wholeheartedly.
Strip the titles working one duo at a time.
The Sussex title is being exploited by MM and PH, particularly MM. They are not able to use HRH but make it that they cannot use any of the titles (Sussex or otherwise). I get the feeling that the Dumbarton title causes some irritation for MM.
They are no longer working royals so should be plain Harry Wales as he was known previously (or Windsor) and Meghan should be Rachel Meghan Windsor. There is argument for Mountbatten-Windsor but I would prefer they just use Windsor.
When stripping the titles it should be made clear that any alleged children are not titled Prince or Princess or have any associated titles. Some other members of the Royal family have got along alright without the titles.
Admin I like your strategy for one duo at a time. Excellent!
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Post by Admin on Nov 24, 2022 10:48:22 GMT
Agree wholeheartedly. Strip the titles working one duo at a time. The Sussex title is being exploited by MM and PH, particularly MM. They are not able to use HRH but make it that they cannot use any of the titles (Sussex or otherwise). I get the feeling that the Dumbarton title causes some irritation for MM. They are no longer working royals so should be plain Harry Wales as he was known previously (or Windsor) and Meghan should be Rachel Meghan Windsor. There is argument for Mountbatten-Windsor but I would prefer they just use Windsor. When stripping the titles it should be made clear that any alleged children are not titled Prince or Princess or have any associated titles. Some other members of the Royal family have got along alright without the titles. Admin I like your strategy for one duo at a time. Excellent! Thank you!!! The ball has to get rolling - it's just so open and flagrant and almost taunting, in it's own way. I cannot get over how badly Harry has played things - ultimately it's his family that he is undermining and the responsibility is mainly on him (like William, too, but that's for the next op-ed) Peace, Admin
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Post by kueifei on Nov 24, 2022 17:19:30 GMT
What makes me angriest is the stupidity. Harry is part of the establishment and clearly refuses to accept that by damaging his father, he is damaging himself and compromising people who rely on Charles to help people in regards to charities or for their professional positions. Harry (like his mother) is unwilling to take a mature perspective that his father isn't a problem, maybe he isn't a problem, but Meg is the one with the bad attitude as well. If Harry is too holy for 'the establishment,' then he should no longer be able to live off of the establishment. No more titles, no more protection, and no more being handed plush deals.
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Post by Admin on Nov 24, 2022 18:26:41 GMT
What makes me angriest is the stupidity. Harry is part of the establishment and clearly refuses to accept that by damaging his father, he is damaging himself and compromising people who rely on Charles to help people in regards to charities or for their professional positions. Harry (like his mother) is unwilling to take a mature perspective that his father isn't a problem, maybe he isn't a problem, but Meg is the one with the bad attitude as well. If Harry is too holy for 'the establishment,' then he should no longer be able to live off of the establishment. No more titles, no more protection, and no more being handed plush deals. Completely agree - and his father is in a unique position. Charles cannot speak out so Meghan, Harry and whoever they chose can continue to level all kinds of crap against him. I cant get over how he squandered most of his goodwill.
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Post by sanka on Nov 25, 2022 6:14:56 GMT
What makes me angriest is the stupidity. Harry is part of the establishment and clearly refuses to accept that by damaging his father, he is damaging himself and compromising people who rely on Charles to help people in regards to charities or for their professional positions. Harry (like his mother) is unwilling to take a mature perspective that his father isn't a problem, maybe he isn't a problem, but Meg is the one with the bad attitude as well. If Harry is too holy for 'the establishment,' then he should no longer be able to live off of the establishment. No more titles, no more protection, and no more being handed plush deals. Completely agree - and his father is in a unique position. Charles cannot speak out so Meghan, Harry and whoever they chose can continue to level all kinds of crap against him. I cant get over how he squandered most of his goodwill. Agree. MM and PH have no idea about the consequences of their actions. It reminds me of the Diana days of her going off the rails and her thinking as mother of a future King that she would always be accepted with the Royal Family. PH has too much of Diana and the Spencer traits. PH was looked favourably with the people years ago despite some of his wild actions. Yet he went downhill and will never get the respect from most people back. Charles cannot speak out which is a shame as I would like him to put his foot down. One way Charles could take action is to recommend to Parliament to take action regarding titles. This will send a clear message to the rogue royals and also demonstrate to the public that he does have a backbone when it comes to his own family regarding slimming down the monarchy. I expect that when and if the titles are removed from the Sussexes that MM will go feral and try to pull out the race and victim cards. I know there have been a few petitions around about the removal of the titles but we can only hope that 2023 will be extra special with the removal of the Sussex titles. It would even be better if part of it included that any spouse of a member of the blood royal family could not even reference the Prince/Princess title. Also, that children of any royal that has their title removed could not have titles. The longer that the alleged children of MM and PH are not referenced with any titles on the royal website makes me happier
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Post by Admin on Nov 25, 2022 12:46:40 GMT
Completely agree - and his father is in a unique position. Charles cannot speak out so Meghan, Harry and whoever they chose can continue to level all kinds of crap against him. I cant get over how he squandered most of his goodwill. Agree. MM and PH have no idea about the consequences of their actions. It reminds me of the Diana days of her going off the rails and her thinking as mother of a future King that she would always be accepted with the Royal Family. PH has too much of Diana and the Spencer traits. PH was looked favourably with the people years ago despite some of his wild actions. Yet he went downhill and will never get the respect from most people back. Charles cannot speak out which is a shame as I would like him to put his foot down. One way Charles could take action is to recommend to Parliament to take action regarding titles. This will send a clear message to the rogue royals and also demonstrate to the public that he does have a backbone when it comes to his own family regarding slimming down the monarchy. I expect that when and if the titles are removed from the Sussexes that MM will go feral and try to pull out the race and victim cards. I know there have been a few petitions around about the removal of the titles but we can only hope that 2023 will be extra special with the removal of the Sussex titles. It would even be better if part of it included that any spouse of a member of the blood royal family could not even reference the Prince/Princess title. Also, that children of any royal that has their title removed could not have titles. The longer that the alleged children of MM and PH are not referenced with any titles on the royal website makes me happier If Parliament DID act, and start stripping titles, then there are going to be a good many in the top 10 who would and should (IMO) be stripped - in some odd way, maybe Harry and Meghan's acting up with get that ball rolling. His children don't have any titles, but even going there is going to open up a huge can of worms elsewhere - no wonder Bill and Kathy despise the Sussexes.
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Post by kueifei on Nov 25, 2022 15:59:39 GMT
Agree. MM and PH have no idea about the consequences of their actions. It reminds me of the Diana days of her going off the rails and her thinking as mother of a future King that she would always be accepted with the Royal Family. PH has too much of Diana and the Spencer traits. PH was looked favourably with the people years ago despite some of his wild actions. Yet he went downhill and will never get the respect from most people back. Charles cannot speak out which is a shame as I would like him to put his foot down. One way Charles could take action is to recommend to Parliament to take action regarding titles. This will send a clear message to the rogue royals and also demonstrate to the public that he does have a backbone when it comes to his own family regarding slimming down the monarchy. I expect that when and if the titles are removed from the Sussexes that MM will go feral and try to pull out the race and victim cards. I know there have been a few petitions around about the removal of the titles but we can only hope that 2023 will be extra special with the removal of the Sussex titles. It would even be better if part of it included that any spouse of a member of the blood royal family could not even reference the Prince/Princess title. Also, that children of any royal that has their title removed could not have titles. The longer that the alleged children of MM and PH are not referenced with any titles on the royal website makes me happier If Parliament DID act, and start stripping titles, then there are going to be a good many in the top 10 who would and should (IMO) be stripped - in some odd way, maybe Harry and Meghan's acting up with get that ball rolling. His children don't have any titles, but even going there is going to open up a huge can of worms elsewhere - no wonder Bill and Kathy despise the Sussexes.
In fairness to WK, Harry is setting them up for a bad situation and if Harry continues on, both WK have more than enough enemies in Parliament who would LOVE to take their titles or prerogatives and end up going even further and doing worse. Harry, like his mother, refuses to accept that there is a price for our choices. Harry was failed growing up, but Harry refused to take steps to fill in those gaps since he was capable as an adult. Harry could have asked the late queen for an office and ask to be taken under her wing or he could have asked his father to give him duties at the Prince's Trust. He could have stayed in the palaces if he was being hassled by women in his office and he could have surrounded himself with supporters that kept the women off of his back while he prepped. His main problem, like his mother, is that he wants the care-taking from a woman, but he refuses to be a man who takes his fair share of the blame. He let Meg get BLASTED when they announced their wish to leave instead of taking his role in it like a man.
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Post by Admin on Nov 25, 2022 16:24:16 GMT
If Parliament DID act, and start stripping titles, then there are going to be a good many in the top 10 who would and should (IMO) be stripped - in some odd way, maybe Harry and Meghan's acting up with get that ball rolling. His children don't have any titles, but even going there is going to open up a huge can of worms elsewhere - no wonder Bill and Kathy despise the Sussexes. In fairness to WK, Harry is setting them up for a bad situation and if Harry continues on, both WK have more than enough enemies in Parliament who would LOVE to take their titles or prerogatives and end up going even further and doing worse. Harry, like his mother, refuses to accept that there is a price for our choices. Harry was failed growing up, but Harry refused to take steps to fill in those gaps since he was capable as an adult. Harry could have asked the late queen for an office and ask to be taken under her wing or he could have asked his father to give him duties at the Prince's Trust. He could have stayed in the palaces if he was being hassled by women in his office and he could have surrounded himself with supporters that kept the women off of his back while he prepped. His main problem, like his mother, is that he wants the care-taking from a woman, but he refuses to be a man who takes his fair share of the blame. He let Meg get BLASTED when they announced their wish to leave instead of taking his role in it like a man.
Yes, that is another point - he doesnt seem to mind having Meghan blasted in the media and seems to refuse to take any responsibility. A troubling weakness in his character, but not surprising for being a Spencer. The Windsors have a sort of ruthlessness that the daft fair weather user Spencer upstarts will never have. Harry really takes after his mother's family this way.
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Post by kueifei on Nov 25, 2022 17:06:14 GMT
In fairness to WK, Harry is setting them up for a bad situation and if Harry continues on, both WK have more than enough enemies in Parliament who would LOVE to take their titles or prerogatives and end up going even further and doing worse. Harry, like his mother, refuses to accept that there is a price for our choices. Harry was failed growing up, but Harry refused to take steps to fill in those gaps since he was capable as an adult. Harry could have asked the late queen for an office and ask to be taken under her wing or he could have asked his father to give him duties at the Prince's Trust. He could have stayed in the palaces if he was being hassled by women in his office and he could have surrounded himself with supporters that kept the women off of his back while he prepped. His main problem, like his mother, is that he wants the care-taking from a woman, but he refuses to be a man who takes his fair share of the blame. He let Meg get BLASTED when they announced their wish to leave instead of taking his role in it like a man.
Yes, that is another point - he doesnt seem to mind having Meghan blasted in the media and seems to refuse to take any responsibility. A troubling weakness in his character, but not surprising for being a Spencer. The Windsors have a sort of ruthlessness that the daft fair weather user Spencer upstarts will never have. Harry really takes after his mother's family this way.
What Harry and Diana and Meg can't seem to cope with is life; life is not about a narrative with assigned roles and Diana and Harry refuse to accept that the Windsors might not be a 9-5 family, but thing is, that their charity has made a hugely wonderful difference and family life for them is what they make of it, not the other way around. Diana and Charles developed a child-first family life and that was highly unique. Diana however refused to accept that the position of heir is not about who is the most marketable and she could not cope in life without roles/narrative coming first instead of second. Harry and Meg are assigning roles to people, not accepting the grey area that are human personalities. Harry and Diana wanted their spouses to take care of them, but refuse to accept that they have to do the same for their spouses. Harry needs to be institutionalized like his mother should have been; he has to be put in care until he is capable of independent self care, certain types of home maintenance, and also learning how to control his temper and experience consequences if he does not. The Windsors, to their credit, do not pretend to be anything other than what they are, an upper class family that loves the kudos and yet prefers to maintain certain thrifty habits that enable them to handle the vast privilege they enjoy to the full. The Windsors have also done a great job at turning the role of ornamental royalty into one of being a charitable force and while Meg would have fit right in in that area, she failed to at least TRY to settle in and would not at least humor the late queen by going along with the way that Windsors were while adding her own panache. Second, if Meg had willingly ignored the press headlines she would have surely been better off. She has everything going for her but the willingness to grow up.
Losing his titles would send a message, but it would set a precedent.
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Post by Admin on Nov 25, 2022 18:35:52 GMT
Yes, that is another point - he doesnt seem to mind having Meghan blasted in the media and seems to refuse to take any responsibility. A troubling weakness in his character, but not surprising for being a Spencer. The Windsors have a sort of ruthlessness that the daft fair weather user Spencer upstarts will never have. Harry really takes after his mother's family this way. What Harry and Diana and Meg can't seem to cope with is life; life is not about a narrative with assigned roles and Diana and Harry refuse to accept that the Windsors might not be a 9-5 family, but thing is, that their charity has made a hugely wonderful difference and family life for them is what they make of it, not the other way around. Diana and Charles developed a child-first family life and that was highly unique. Diana however refused to accept that the position of heir is not about who is the most marketable and she could not cope in life without roles/narrative coming first instead of second. Harry and Meg are assigning roles to people, not accepting the grey area that are human personalities. Harry and Diana wanted their spouses to take care of them, but refuse to accept that they have to do the same for their spouses. Harry needs to be institutionalized like his mother should have been; he has to be put in care until he is capable of independent self care, certain types of home maintenance, and also learning how to control his temper and experience consequences if he does not. The Windsors, to their credit, do not pretend to be anything other than what they are, an upper class family that loves the kudos and yet prefers to maintain certain thrifty habits that enable them to handle the vast privilege they enjoy to the full. The Windsors have also done a great job at turning the role of ornamental royalty into one of being a charitable force and while Meg would have fit right in in that area, she failed to at least TRY to settle in and would not at least humor the late queen by going along with the way that Windsors were while adding her own panache. Second, if Meg had willingly ignored the press headlines she would have surely been better off. She has everything going for her but the willingness to grow up.
Losing his titles would send a message, but it would set a precedent.
Spot on!!!!!!!! Bravo!!! If any of us were giving these unique privileges and granted this special access, I think we would be humbled and be super careful not to offend and/or step on any toes. I'm just humbled having recommendations for royal archive access, but that is way off topic. Lol I could happily live in a palace but hey, that's just me, too. Back to topic, I am astounded at much was squandered and how badly Harry played things. Something is severely lacking in one's makeup if one cannot see that one's actions and choices can really harm or damage somebody else, even if it's just a reputation. But even that is more than enough because people dont deserve to be slandered and have the right to defend themselves. All we see from Harry and Meghan is some kind of worldwide social media onslaught that nobody should have to be subjected to. Look at the case with Thomas Markle and now with King Charles. Enough with this online humiliation and abuse.
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Post by kueifei on Nov 25, 2022 19:54:07 GMT
Like his mother, Harry can't stop himself anymore. Meg is clearly feral and attacking anyone who would otherwise want to help her. Meg wants to be a star, but she refuses to accept that there are rules and standards and a process. No ancestor of Harry's or Diana's (even) anticipated a time when royals would WANT to be uneducated buffoons and there is no way that royals from times past would anticipate that their descendants would in fact ascend to the Throne with near zero education. No one anticipated any of this and with good reason. No one anticipated that a royal consort who was also an aristocrat would revel in being a promiscuous ignoramus (Diana) and no one anticipated that a royal duke and eventually a crown prince (William) would marry a complete loser (Kate) and make even more messes. No one anticipated the disaster that all this became. I believe the worst part is, that Harry knows better. He knew this way of life and he had a responsibility to sort out and solidify his life before thinking of taking a wife, but he refused to do so.
Taking the titles away is a horrific precedent because while the move might be wise now, all it takes is some social justice pissant MP to waltz in and start attacking the royals out of plain spite. We suffer that in the US where we have members of Congress getting elected and worrying about activism and not the nation's welfare. I am not rich myself, but I do not begrudge anyone their riches and I hate how businesses are collapsing under all of the misery of social justice activists. Then there is the fact that Diana's bright idea of dethrone Charles was a horror of an idea and no one thought that Diana's behavior was selfish because Diana participated in a cultural change where media coverage was about a narrative and not the facts of the situation. Diana participated in a media frenzy where facts and balance were thrown out the window and she was merrily participating in the destruction of a lot of reputations and careers and it was 'okay' because it fit the 'narrative.' When Charles fought back, he was bashed not because of bad behavior, but because his media darling wife assigned him that role. For Diana this was a funny joyride/game and she didn't THINK about how bashing her husband would give him the right to defend themselves.
Charles chose to defend himself and took hits and now Harry is doing the same with Meg's connivance. Harry is taking shots at the wrong people in his life and Meg is manipulating him and keeping him hysterical and keeping him sick/distracted. If the titles are taken, if Harry wants them back, it will have to be earned, not given. Harry should lose the "HRH," but his aristocratic titles should be kept to give him some standing and to prevent Parliament from getting out of line. I do not think there is any point to pretending that Harry is going to end up in a good place. Diana lost her "HRH" mainly since she was living a bad life and the BRF didn't owe her protection that comes with that title. Diana and Harry are two peas in a bad pod and Meg is even worse. Fact is, that Harry lets his wife decide everything and take all the hits and that is plain wrong. I do not think this situation is fixable. Take away the "HRH" and you will see the ducal couple fall apart. Once that "HRH" is gone, the plush deals will dissolve and so will what is left of the respect of the press. He should lose it, but not the aristocratic titles.
As for his princely title, he should lose that too. Not even as a courtesy. After all Meg has pulled, she should certainly not enjoy the residual title of princess.
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Post by Admin on Nov 28, 2022 3:23:39 GMT
Agree wholeheartedly. Strip the titles working one duo at a time. The Sussex title is being exploited by MM and PH, particularly MM. They are not able to use HRH but make it that they cannot use any of the titles (Sussex or otherwise). I get the feeling that the Dumbarton title causes some irritation for MM. They are no longer working royals so should be plain Harry Wales as he was known previously (or Windsor) and Meghan should be Rachel Meghan Windsor. There is argument for Mountbatten-Windsor but I would prefer they just use Windsor. When stripping the titles it should be made clear that any alleged children are not titled Prince or Princess or have any associated titles. Some other members of the Royal family have got along alright without the titles. Admin I like your strategy for one duo at a time. Excellent! I am so done with how they all contributed to this bleeping mess that is the modern BRF.
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Post by Admin on Nov 28, 2022 3:23:47 GMT
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Post by kueifei on Nov 28, 2022 22:47:22 GMT
Everyone is forgetting that Charles is king and should not be flouted; Charles answers to only his peers and given their choices, Harry and Meg should lose the ducal titles at least and focus on cutting Harry further off from palace protection. Harry and Meg are making fools of everyone and people should be able to remove them from the shoulders of an establishment that owes them nothing now. Time to start cutting titles and maybe even income. Time to give royals a real choice: get yourself straightened out or no titles or income or plush deals. Politicians should have to put up with royals not holding up their end and it is definitely time for Harry and Meg to lose either the ducal titles or the "HRH." One or the other should be given up.
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Post by Admin on Dec 4, 2022 18:45:07 GMT
Aside: Yes, Daily Mail, YOU know what has REALLY gone on behind the scenes for YEARS, but choose not to address the REAL reasons why titles (and not just beginning and ending with the Sussexes) need to be stripped?
Come on, at least start having some courage and guts - like so many on this forum and elsewhere who have been practically screaming for the longest time clearly have. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11497147/DAILY-MAIL-COMMENT-time-Harry-royal-titlesDAILY MAIL COMMENT: It’s time for Harry to give up his royal titles By DAILY MAIL COMMENT
PUBLISHED: 19:32 EST, 2 December 2022 | UPDATED: 04:15 EST, 4 December 2022It’s time for Harry to give up his royal titles
As this tumultuous year edges towards a close, there can be no doubting the severe challenges Britain faces.
Arrogant union bosses are threatening to wreak Christmas chaos with a series of crippling strikes. Ruthless gangs continue to send thousands of migrants across the channel with impunity. And despite billions in extra funding, our unreformed NHS is still teetering on the brink of collapse.Aside: arrogant union bosses? Do you have ANY idea of what workers HAVE to fight for these days? You strident, out of touch idiots.
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Post by Admin on Dec 4, 2022 18:52:50 GMT
Aside: Yes, Daily Mail, YOU know what has REALLY gone on behind the scenes for YEARS, but choose not to address the REAL reasons why titles (and not just beginning and ending with the Sussexes) need to be stripped?
Come on, at least start having some courage and guts - like so many on this forum and elsewhere who have been practically screaming for the longest time clearly have. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11497147/DAILY-MAIL-COMMENT-time-Harry-royal-titlesDAILY MAIL COMMENT: It’s time for Harry to give up his royal titles By DAILY MAIL COMMENT
PUBLISHED: 19:32 EST, 2 December 2022 | UPDATED: 04:15 EST, 4 December 2022It’s time for Harry to give up his royal titles
As this tumultuous year edges towards a close, there can be no doubting the severe challenges Britain faces.
Arrogant union bosses are threatening to wreak Christmas chaos with a series of crippling strikes. Ruthless gangs continue to send thousands of migrants across the channel with impunity. And despite billions in extra funding, our unreformed NHS is still teetering on the brink of collapse.Aside: arrogant union bosses? Do you have ANY idea of what workers HAVE to fight for these days? You strident, out of touch idiots.
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Post by Admin on Dec 4, 2022 18:54:19 GMT
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11497147/DAILY-MAIL-COMMENT-time-Harry-royal-titles.htmlSome comments: The comments below have not been moderated. Clemmie, London, United Kingdom, 5 hours ago I've said this all along. The King can remove all the titles except Prince as Harry was born to that one. Meghan would love that as she could then refer to herself as Princess Meghan and still play the victim. Remember this is a woman who grew up wanting to be a Disney princess. To her, Princess is far more attractive than stuffy old Duchess. Especially as Catherine is now Princess of Wales just like their mother-in-law.ReplyNew Comment 05Click to rate Good bye duck, London, United Kingdom, 6 hours ago Poor Harry. Poor Meghan. Poor, poor things. Oh wait! Hows your father megsie?ReplyNew Comment 07Click to rate actonimpulse, London, Åland Islands, 6 hours ago K Charles needs to listen to the people or suffer consequences if he Does Not Strip Titles.ReplyNew Comment 011Click to rate BYO, LONDON, United Kingdom, 7 hours ago The king should remove them and give the dukedom to the Wessexs who are far more deservingReplyNew Comment 014Click to rate Michelle, Southampton, United Kingdom, 7 hours ago He'll never do that, because he's an entitled a hole!ReplyNew Comment 013Click to rate jamesbreen, London, United Kingdom, 7 hours ago Pampered and privileged, yet portraying themselves as persecuted.ReplyNew Comment 025Click to rate soonhowisnow, Smiths, United Kingdom, 6 hours ago The four Ps05Click to rate mcemmcee, Edinburgh, United Kingdom, 7 hours ago Unfortuntely, it remains financially advantageous to H & M to retain their titles whilst repeatedly spewing increasing levels of vitriol. Should they simply be Mr & Mrs Windsor, nobody would pay any attention and their purse would remain empty.ReplyNew Comment 019Click to rate jamesbreen, London, United Kingdom, 7 hours ago Two clueless people, deluded beyond belief, with not an iota of intelligence between them.ReplyNew Comment 019Click to rate Storiesasitis, Hampshire , United Kingdom, 7 hours ago Its only on paper now anyway, no one believes he has any ounce if Royalty left..ReplyNew Comment 017Click to rate soonhowisnow, Smiths, United Kingdom, 7 hours ago SPARE us all the drama.ReplyNew Comment 010Click to rate Cancellus, Uk, Portugal, 7 hours ago Yeah, if he gives up his title the markle will be looking for the next husband.ReplyNew Comment 021Click to rate CrazyChickenLady69, Birmingham, United Kingdom, 7 hours ago
Dont be waiting for Charles to do anything ..he is a weak man...ReplyNew Comment 317Click to rate Daisypops60, Preston, United Kingdom, 7 hours ago It begs to wonder what they will tell their children in a few years time.ReplyNew Comment 016Click to rate john.c, corby, United Kingdom, 7 hours ago No he should not give them up.... They should be taken away.... ReplyNew Comment 014Click to rate Team Conte, London, United Kingdom, 7 hours ago Harry was loved by everybody before he met this twice divorced 3rd rate actress who nobody ever heard of before. Surely he realizes that she is using him to reach her huge ambitionsReplyNew Comment 132Click to rate Owlzat, Sheffield, United Kingdom, 6 hours ago Couldn't agree more.05Click to rate King Brian, Glasgow, United Kingdom, 7 hours ago Enemies of the state, banish them forever from the ukReplyNew Comment 221Click to rate Cherry brandy girl, Worcester, United Kingdom, 7 hours ago Charles pushed Markle out, because she's not white. Banish this dysfunctional RF now.ReplyNew Comment 493Click to rate Daisypops60, Preston, United Kingdom, 7 hours ago You make some stupid comments.017Click to rate soonhowisnow, Smiths, United Kingdom, 7 hours ago Money for scandal. This all that's going down here. All very negative.ReplyNew Comment 113Click to rate soonhowisnow, Smiths, United Kingdom, 7 hours ago They gather too much publicity and attention. Stop giving it to them probs a good start.ReplyNew Comment 115Click to rate Me South, Southampton, United Kingdom, 7 hours ago We can't draw on the strength of the monarchy in our darkest times any more because of the battle by the duo to destroy it, the RF stand by and let it happen also Charles is ready to fall to his knees and apologise for our history and culture.ReplyNew Comment 610Click to rate anne, sheffield, United Kingdom, 7 hours ago And the late Queen encouraged them - why didn't she do something.?05Click to rate Me South, Southampton, United Kingdom, 7 hours ago I don't think the Queen wanted to take everything away from Harry but I don't think Charles any choice now anne05Click to rate fedral, harwood, United Kingdom, 7 hours ago He wont do that MM has too much to loseReplyNew Comment 129Click to rate Flavenoid, Bourneville, United Kingdom, 7 hours ago Revoke them. The government can, not the king.ReplyNew Comment 125Click to rate mcemmcee, Edinburgh, United Kingdom, 7 hours ago Then Prince Harry and Princess Henry of Wales aka Princess Meghan would have a stronger voice and even more ammunition.23Click to rate Team Conte, London, United Kingdom, 7 hours ago What is wrong with the RF this bloke and his sidekick have Pd all over them since day one and they are still not kicking them out where they belong permanently.ReplyNew Comment 131Click to rate Kl3547, Devon, United Kingdom, 7 hours ago When the actual monarchy starts to attack its own people: Harry targeting hard working British people who bank rolled most of his life; something must be done.ReplyNew Comment 237Click to rate Calm Norfolk, Norwich, United Kingdom, 7 hours ago Charles must now give up on Harry, not because he doesn't care, but Harry doesn't.ReplyNew Comment 144Click to rate Cherry brandy girl, Worcester, United Kingdom, 7 hours ago It's time to end the whole monarchy. They need us more than we need them!!! So outdated and ridiculous now.
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Post by kueifei on Dec 4, 2022 23:41:44 GMT
I wonder if whether or not this should be up for discussion; Harry is nonfunctional and losing the "HRH" is necessary for Harry to learn consequences the hard way. Harry is lucky to have such a patient father and Meg is plain broken. There is no way that she will end up continuing to function in entertainment with her refusal to accept that she has to follow through with her obligations and her responsibility not to take shots at people who have never done her dirt. Meg is making a final mess of the credibility of an "HRH" and it is clear that she is on a bad way down and will not be developing any real work history and has serious problems functioning at an adult level and getting along well in a stable socially acceptable way. The titles have to be removed and Harry/Meg have to be left to find their own real level. Neither Harry or Meg want to function appropriately. The ducal couple refuse to just work, keep their heads down, and refuse to accept that the free ride is over. Harry's autobiography is bad timing and this is the last thing that King Charles needs. I do not think that this is a good idea, not at this point in time. Harry is clearly self destructive as his mother was later in her life and it is clear that he is trying to destroy himself, but uses Charles as his proxy.
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