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Post by Admin on Jul 27, 2021 3:04:58 GMT
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Post by kueifei on Jul 27, 2021 14:07:51 GMT
How low humiliating her son like that and in front of others. |
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Post by india on Jul 27, 2021 19:57:29 GMT
She was probably worn out with him. He has always (and still is) a terror and a little shyte.
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Post by kueifei on Jul 27, 2021 20:50:23 GMT
She was probably worn out with him. He has always (and still is) a terror and a little shyte. Or maybe he was acting out. Maybe her constant hysterics got to him and he couldn't cope and I think Diana is a huge reason he is such an unstable mess. |
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Post by india on Jul 28, 2021 2:07:40 GMT
She was probably worn out with him. He has always (and still is) a terror and a little shyte. Or maybe he was acting out. Maybe her constant hysterics got to him and he couldn't cope and I think Diana is a huge reason he is such an unstable mess. You are so right kueifei. The mix of Charles and Diana is not good. Both are bad. Awful. |
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Post by kueifei on Jul 28, 2021 15:36:18 GMT
Or maybe he was acting out. Maybe her constant hysterics got to him and he couldn't cope and I think Diana is a huge reason he is such an unstable mess. You are so right kueifei. The mix of Charles and Diana is not good. Both are bad. Awful. William was a little kid who NEEDED a stable life and he was robbed of that. He should have had a home of his own at a young age, not mixed up with his crazy parents. As for Charles, after Diana died he should have told Camilla to stop pressuring him to rehabilitate her reputation and just live with what went down. The minute a woman screws a married man she forfeits any right to a good reputation. Charles should have cut Camilla out of his life for a few years or more after Diana died. Moved with his sons to Wales and bonded big time. |
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Post by Admin on Jul 31, 2021 2:57:08 GMT
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Post by india on Aug 1, 2021 13:54:07 GMT
She had no business saying that.
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Post by Admin on Aug 10, 2021 23:10:22 GMT
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Post by Admin on Aug 12, 2021 0:07:38 GMT
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Post by india on Aug 12, 2021 1:03:28 GMT
Kate is not a beauty nor is she pretty. Her huge fake ugly teeth and thin lips are disgusting along with the rest of her. Rania is gorgeous and Grace was a beauty in her youth when Hollywood had a grip on her.
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Post by kueifei on Aug 16, 2021 14:59:43 GMT
Diana had the best clothes, the best stylists, the best millions could buy. So of course she looked gorgeous. |
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Post by Admin on Aug 28, 2021 13:54:33 GMT
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Post by kueifei on Sept 2, 2021 6:16:24 GMT
Diana was always falling apart and boarding school is not something she was unfamiliar with. She knew how it would always have to be and i dislike how Charles is portrayed as a cold tyrant sending her kids away like some ogre. As for this story it has been decades un the past.
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Post by Admin on Sept 26, 2021 15:26:11 GMT
An old item from 1993: www.vanityfair.com/magazine/1993/02/princess-diana-revenge-anthony-holden-coverFROM THE MAGAZINE Diana’s Revenge She overcame the whispers—and not a few shouts—about her own well-being and conduct to emerge victorious over the House of Windsor. Now Princess Diana, though separated from the royal family, is perhaps its best hope for survival. Anthony Holden profiles the woman who has, after a lifetime of emotional disappointments, fashioned her own set of rules in one of the world’s strictest households. by ANTHONY HOLDEN FEBRUARY 1993 |
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Post by Admin on Sept 26, 2021 15:30:24 GMT
A semi-related item - may seem like a good book to check out? www.goodreads.com/book/show/1441914.Frances Frances: The Remarkable Story of Princess Diana's Mother by Max Riddington, Gavan Naden This is the story of the fascinating life of the Honourable Mrs. Frances Shand Kydd, mother to one of the most famous women in the world, Princess Diana. It features exclusive interviews and previously unseen photographs, and details the many similarities between the lives of Frances Shand Kydd and her daughter—from adultery, scandal, and divorce, to conflict with the British Establishment. |
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Post by kueifei on Oct 12, 2021 22:47:50 GMT
Frances reminds me of my grandmother; my grandfather was HUGELY prominent and my grandmother had the guts to divorce his abusive A$$. She was denied the sacraments (she was a devout Catholic) and it wasn't until Vatican II that she was able to take them as a divorced woman. My grandmother was someone who basically took a huge stand and protected her children. Frances should have been better admired by Diana and I resent how Diana thought that Frances should have stayed so Diana wouldn't 'feel abandoned.' Women have EVERY right to break away from a wife-beater and how regrettable that Diana didn't value the good advice that Frances did give her (in regards to the bad choices that Diana made with men and Dodi in particular).
As for Diana 'fashioning her own rules,' Diana just made things up as she went along (as was her wont) and it is clear that she was not headed in a good direction in life. She was a 'lady who lunched' (on the dimes of others) and she ended up the same way a lot of good time types do, in a bad place with a bad guy. She wasn't empowered and I frankly think that she was the worst possible example for young women/girls of her time. I remember watching the funeral with my mom and I was largely diffident and my mom was teary and I asked her if she was going to cry and she said she probably would. I find it galling that so many women thought that Diana didn't have a good life and that somehow she didn't ask for much. She did have a great life and she did ask for things out of people that they didn't have it in them to give. Charles did not have it in him to be the 9-5 man with the billion dollar bank account. HM did not have it in her to be the cheesy mother figure that Diana wanted and the lovers she had (up until Dodi) had no ability or interest in forgoing their professional responsibilities to coddle her or get worked up about the latest trendy cause.
She had no ability to pull herself together and I find it bitterly regretful that the BRF did not get her hospitalized once they knew she had bulimia. She should have been put in a hospital and kept there until such time that her condition was stable, she was cured of making herself sick, and (I speak from experience) on a medication regimen and adhering to it. She would have left that hospital stabilized and she would not have left until she stopped throwing tantrums and causing chaos/drama. I've lived with someone like this and it really does wreck your mental/emotional health.
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Post by Admin on Oct 12, 2021 23:16:37 GMT
Frances reminds me of my grandmother; my grandfather was HUGELY prominent and my grandmother had the guts to divorce his abusive A$$. She was denied the sacraments (she was a devout Catholic) and it wasn't until Vatican II that she was able to take them as a divorced woman. My grandmother was someone who basically took a huge stand and protected her children. Frances should have been better admired by Diana and I resent how Diana thought that Frances should have stayed so Diana wouldn't 'feel abandoned.' Women have EVERY right to break away from a wife-beater and how regrettable that Diana didn't value the good advice that Frances did give her (in regards to the bad choices that Diana made with men and Dodi in particular).
As for Diana 'fashioning her own rules,' Diana just made things up as she went along (as was her wont) and it is clear that she was not headed in a good direction in life. She was a 'lady who lunched' (on the dimes of others) and she ended up the same way a lot of good time types do, in a bad place with a bad guy. She wasn't empowered and I frankly think that she was the worst possible example for young women/girls of her time. I remember watching the funeral with my mom and I was largely diffident and my mom was teary and I asked her if she was going to cry and she said she probably would. I find it galling that so many women thought that Diana didn't have a good life and that somehow she didn't ask for much. She did have a great life and she did ask for things out of people that they didn't have it in them to give. Charles did not have it in him to be the 9-5 man with the billion dollar bank account. HM did not have it in her to be the cheesy mother figure that Diana wanted and the lovers she had (up until Dodi) had no ability or interest in forgoing their professional responsibilities to coddle her or get worked up about the latest trendy cause. She had no ability to pull herself together and I find it bitterly regretful that the BRF did not get her hospitalized once they knew she had bulimia. She should have been put in a hospital and kept there until such time that her condition was stable, she was cured of making herself sick, and (I speak from experience) on a medication regimen and adhering to it. She would have left that hospital stabilized and she would not have left until she stopped throwing tantrums and causing chaos/drama. I've lived with someone like this and it really does wreck your mental/emotional health.
Lots of royal and noble women (from yesteryear) need more open-minded people to take a look further back into their lives and maybe discover their bad reputations, etc, were very undeserving. Most people just take what they are presented as the gospel truth and don't go farther than that. I say, research the facts and maybe you will learn what the other side of the story REALLY was. I am puzzled too why Frances didn't get the respect she deserved and why the Earl was the one coming up smelling like roses. What a tragedy, too, the absolute viper Frances had for a so-called mother. Mothers (and of course sometimes the fathers) don't get the credit they deserve - imagine, taking a stand against not being somebody's punching bag and looking out for your self-preservation. Gutsy. |
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Post by kueifei on Oct 12, 2021 23:30:36 GMT
The reason that Earl Spencer go the backup is because it was the sixties and HM knew that the Earl was a spousal abuser, but supported Earl Spencer mainly since HM was feeling insecure about the changing culture and thought (mistakenly) that the aristocracy and royalty should cleave together at all costs. So Frances was not just abused, but thrown out and stripped of her children except for visitation. HM knew the Earl was a product of his ancestry (unstable, explosive temperament) and had known the mess Diana and the rest were caught up in, but go figure, HM supported the Earl and tacitly condoned spousal abuse all because Earl Spencer was one of the club. HM knew that Frances would be devastated at losing her children, but HM cares more about the Crown (herself), serving the Crown (herself) and so Frances was cast out and Diana was scarred for life along with her siblings.
I wonder how many other women were beaten to death for the sake of marital 'respectability' and buried.
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Post by Admin on Oct 12, 2021 23:50:52 GMT
The reason that Earl Spencer go the backup is because it was the sixties and HM knew that the Earl was a spousal abuser, but supported Earl Spencer mainly since HM was feeling insecure about the changing culture and thought (mistakenly) that the aristocracy and royalty should cleave together at all costs. So Frances was not just abused, but thrown out and stripped of her children except for visitation. HM knew the Earl was a product of his ancestry (unstable, explosive temperament) and had known the mess Diana and the rest were caught up in, but go figure, HM supported the Earl and tacitly condoned spousal abuse all because Earl Spencer was one of the club. HM knew that Frances would be devastated at losing her children, but HM cares more about the Crown (herself), serving the Crown (herself) and so Frances was cast out and Diana was scarred for life along with her siblings. I wonder how many other women were beaten to death for the sake of marital 'respectability' and buried. Who knows? We just hear rumours/stories about the abuse certain noble and/or well-known figures experienced, but what is just as tragic are those without any means to escape/look after themselves. Frances would be one of the "lucky" ones. I have posted about some royal ladies in "Scandalous Queens and Princesses" - maybe not all abused people (though abuse can be mental/emotional, too) , in the classical sense, but royal figures who also had their challenging partners and often tragic lives. Imagine having the Lady Fermoy as a so-called mother. Cookie's bestie, wasn't she? Here's something: www.tatler.com/article/who-was-princess-dianas-grandmother-ruth-roche-baroness-fermoy |
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