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Post by kueifei on Mar 6, 2021 3:47:08 GMT
I do think Charlotte could have broken the mold and been a great princess(by heart since she’s non titled) and being educated could help Monaco and other charity. I mean she had the fame and the following as Diana said, she wanted to use it for good. A shame she didn’t pursue it.
The real problem, if forming a sense of existence outside of press coverage. Charlotte and Diana were/are both clearly loaded with potential, but thing is, that Diana had problems developing a personality outside of media coverage, she had problems psychologically if the spotlight was not on her and as for Charlotte, she really has no substance and really isn't someone who cultivated anything outside of being a tabloid darling/favorite cover-girl. When you see clips of Charlotte, you see someone who is used to being good looking and pampered, but there really isn't anything else. She has no gravitas and she was not raised in a sensible way and she was not raised to be practical or realistic. I mean really, being Brand Ambassador of Chanel is clearly something that is just another fashion role, she has no business sense and what will she do other than wear Chanel? She will not be cutting deals or helping with business operations.
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Post by purple1 on Mar 6, 2021 5:17:28 GMT
I do think Charlotte could have broken the mold and been a great princess(by heart since she’s non titled) and being educated could help Monaco and other charity. I mean she had the fame and the following as Diana said, she wanted to use it for good. A shame she didn’t pursue it.
The real problem, if forming a sense of existence outside of press coverage. Charlotte and Diana were/are both clearly loaded with potential, but thing is, that Diana had problems developing a personality outside of media coverage, she had problems psychologically if the spotlight was not on her and as for Charlotte, she really has no substance and really isn't someone who cultivated anything outside of being a tabloid darling/favorite cover-girl. When you see clips of Charlotte, you see someone who is used to being good looking and pampered, but there really isn't anything else. She has no gravitas and she was not raised in a sensible way and she was not raised to be practical or realistic. I mean really, being Brand Ambassador of Chanel is clearly something that is just another fashion role, she has no business sense and what will she do other than wear Chanel? She will not be cutting deals or helping with business operations.
I personally think Diana probably got addicted to the fame because she needed it since she was in that terrible family but I do think outside of that she really enjoyed charity work and people since by all accounts she was always kind and willing to help. Like she said she wanted to spread love. Charlotte is a sad case in my opinion. She really Had so much potential to make something unique and different. In my mind she could have been a princess in the way she acted and conducted herself. Been educated in international relations and become an ambassador for Monaco, working as part of the UN since she had the media and fame she could have used it for good. If she had done that and created that princess role she would have shined brightly and created a legacy. Being a Chanel ambassador is not an amazing feat unless your profession is modeling. What will she do? Attend shows and wear the clothes? That’s it!
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Post by kueifei on Mar 6, 2021 5:52:51 GMT
You know, she really is a sad case as you've said. With the right upbringing, she would have been so much more, but she CHOSE not to go in that direction.
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Post by purple1 on Mar 6, 2021 6:30:44 GMT
You know, she really is a sad case as you've said. With the right upbringing, she would have been so much more, but she CHOSE not to go in that direction. Which is a shame because to me although I’m not as connected and well off as her, her life seems pretty empty and non fulfilling. She had potential and she was the “chosen” one for Monaco. These royals shouldn’t rely on their status and perks. If I was in their position I want to help people and shine light.
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Post by kueifei on Mar 6, 2021 6:39:52 GMT
I think that the freedom that royals enjoy has been a blessing since we see them for what they are and they clearly really do not care. Her life is empty and non-fulfilling and it is regrettable since she was not raised well. She was not raised to accept that she is supposed to do more than just exist. She was raised in a media culture that glorified privilege and not sincere accomplishment and she, along with her dolt brothers, play to the press and it is startling to see that William ended up being the same, playing to the press by posing and smirking and condescending to the press and behaving as if he is, by virtue of a position of privilege, is someone who has a right to look down on anyone. It is clear that the Casiraghi Trio glory years are passed and I believe that Charlotte is uncomprehending that she is no longer an ingenue. She has no real access to the type of respect she might crave, but she refuses to do the concrete work and skills acquisition.
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Post by purple1 on Mar 6, 2021 12:36:21 GMT
I think that the freedom that royals enjoy has been a blessing since we see them for what they are and they clearly really do not care. Her life is empty and non-fulfilling and it is regrettable since she was not raised well. She was not raised to accept that she is supposed to do more than just exist. She was raised in a media culture that glorified privilege and not sincere accomplishment and she, along with her dolt brothers, play to the press and it is startling to see that William ended up being the same, playing to the press by posing and smirking and condescending to the press and behaving as if he is, by virtue of a position of privilege, is someone who has a right to look down on anyone. It is clear that the Casiraghi Trio glory years are passed and I believe that Charlotte is uncomprehending that she is no longer an ingenue. She has no real access to the type of respect she might crave, but she refuses to do the concrete work and skills acquisition. The real shocker is William since he always hated the media but now has teamed up with the Tory Gov’t and media. Disgusting. The media isn’t your friend. I’m really shocked Charlotte didn’t do more. Honestly she really could have put Monaco on the map in an intellectual way. She could have commanded respect with her work and being a princess(as a job not a lifestyle). I think those glory days are over as welll. Is it me or do you think she kind of now wants that respect and be a “princess”? But those days are over. She could have done it.
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Post by kueifei on Mar 6, 2021 14:19:57 GMT
You know, I am surprised that Charlotte didn't wheedle an "HSH" out of her Uncle and manage to get at least that to give her some social cachet beyond being a socialite. I sometimes think that Charlotte would have loved to have married Harry or William (imagine the headlines with THAT), but regrettably it didn't happen. I find it irritating that royals still hold onto their grand attitudes despite their complete lack of accomplishment.
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Post by purple1 on Mar 6, 2021 15:48:01 GMT
You know, I am surprised that Charlotte didn't wheedle an "HSH" out of her Uncle and manage to get at least that to give her some social cachet beyond being a socialite. I sometimes think that Charlotte would have loved to have married Harry or William (imagine the headlines with THAT), but regrettably it didn't happen. I find it irritating that royals still hold onto their grand attitudes despite their complete lack of accomplishment. Yes! Those attitudes is stupid. If you’re not doing anything and just rely on your family and title sorry but nope you don’t really have respect at all. I think the only way she would have gotten HSH If she had shown she was capable and doing great work on behalf of Monaco and charities. I mean she was the chosen one but decided to not do anything with it.
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Post by kueifei on Mar 6, 2021 16:13:59 GMT
Chosen one? Chosen for what?
As for their attitudes, it is irritating that they condescend as much as they do and to all the wrong people. They are not better than politicians, they are not better than diplomats and they most certainly are NOT better than entertainers. Entertainers, for all that I've bashed them, EARN that money and appreciate their fan-base. Royals really do their best to distance themselves and I really resent how the British royals require a police escort to visit a candy shop and demand a complete takeover of the place until they actually leave. I also resent how they put themselves out there so much, or demand that a certain lifestyle be maintained for their 'rank.' I mean really, it's a complete slap in the face. A complete and total slap in the face. No one owes those nitwits a lifestyle and it is clear that the more modern the royal, the more asinine their apparent expectations are. Even Sophie who was lauded as being down to earth, is greedy for more cash. William and Kate have a HUGE KP suite and Mary of Denmark has been reselling her clothes and stashing the cash in her own private bank account. I just find it disgusting that little royals are outfitted in the best of everything despite the fact that it is taxpayer money, not private money. Royals do NOT work so hard that they can afford multiple palaces and castles and jets and huge staff out of pocket.
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Post by purple1 on Mar 6, 2021 16:41:20 GMT
Chosen one? Chosen for what? As for their attitudes, it is irritating that they condescend as much as they do and to all the wrong people. They are not better than politicians, they are not better than diplomats and they most certainly are NOT better than entertainers. Entertainers, for all that I've bashed them, EARN that money and appreciate their fan-base. Royals really do their best to distance themselves and I really resent how the British royals require a police escort to visit a candy shop and demand a complete takeover of the place until they actually leave. I also resent how they put themselves out there so much, or demand that a certain lifestyle be maintained for their 'rank.' I mean really, it's a complete slap in the face. A complete and total slap in the face. No one owes those nitwits a lifestyle and it is clear that the more modern the royal, the more asinine their apparent expectations are. Even Sophie who was lauded as being down to earth, is greedy for more cash. William and Kate have a HUGE KP suite and Mary of Denmark has been reselling her clothes and stashing the cash in her own private bank account. I just find it disgusting that little royals are outfitted in the best of everything despite the fact that it is taxpayer money, not private money. Royals do NOT work so hard that they can afford multiple palaces and castles and jets and huge staff out of pocket. Oh wow didn’t know about Mary. There are psychos out there who wants to harm royals so they can have security but closing down a shop is ridiculous and just narcissistic. I think you’re right they don’t work so hard to live the life they live and honestly it’s pathetic and COVID exposed that. But we’re in a different time now we don’t defer to royalty so I think even after the pandemic their status or thinking they are above everyone is not going to be the same. She was the chosen one in hopes she would bring Monaco back in the map with respectability since she was very popular and followed in the European continents. She was supposed to take after Grace Kelly role as a princess.
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Post by kueifei on Mar 6, 2021 18:00:53 GMT
Charlotte might have been better off if her mother had been less fixed on promoting her daughter and sons as the future Princes of Monaco and it is clear that Charlotte should have been better schooled for that hype that she was mixed up in. Charlotte was not trained to live stable life and she was not trained to live a nice life that would enable her to focus on the kind of schooling that would put her on the map as an ambassador for Monaco. She was not well educated, she was not raised to behave properly in public (sitting on a hospital step wearing dirty sneakers and smoking made her look cheap) and it is clear that she was allowed to run wild when she should have been getting better raised. It is clear that Charlotte was failed and I do not think it is healthy for royals to fixate on putting their nations on the map in terms of publicity since little good comes from that kind of 'promotion.' It's publicity seeking and really is kind of pathetic. Royals should just chill, go about their 'work' and keep their business among their own selves and not play to the gallery. If royals didn't put themselves out there in ways that expose them, they would be able to live far more simple lives when they aren't out at engagements. Look at how some actors/actresses live their lives. You almost NEVER see them outside of the time they are promoting a film and doing routine appearances, but other than that, you NEVER see them in the headlines.
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Post by purple1 on Mar 6, 2021 20:20:59 GMT
Charlotte might have been better off if her mother had been less fixed on promoting her daughter and sons as the future Princes of Monaco and it is clear that Charlotte should have been better schooled for that hype that she was mixed up in. Charlotte was not trained to live stable life and she was not trained to live a nice life that would enable her to focus on the kind of schooling that would put her on the map as an ambassador for Monaco. She was not well educated, she was not raised to behave properly in public (sitting on a hospital step wearing dirty sneakers and smoking made her look cheap) and it is clear that she was allowed to run wild when she should have been getting better raised. It is clear that Charlotte was failed and I do not think it is healthy for royals to fixate on putting their nations on the map in terms of publicity since little good comes from that kind of 'promotion.' It's publicity seeking and really is kind of pathetic. Royals should just chill, go about their 'work' and keep their business among their own selves and not play to the gallery. If royals didn't put themselves out there in ways that expose them, they would be able to live far more simple lives when they aren't out at engagements. Look at how some actors/actresses live their lives. You almost NEVER see them outside of the time they are promoting a film and doing routine appearances, but other than that, you NEVER see them in the headlines. Yep that’s too much on a person. Why did her mother want her to be princess of Monaco anyways? Part of being royalty is to put your country in the best interest. “Soft ambassadors”.
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Post by kueifei on Mar 7, 2021 4:10:40 GMT
Part of being royalty is to put your country in the best interest. “Soft ambassadors”.
I think what is best is not set on stone. I think this fixation on getting the most press or tourists is something that should be put on ice unless it brings trade deals, signed deals. I do not believe that royals should be relied on to bring in tourism, but bring in deals and that is something that they are not equipped to do.
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Post by purple1 on Mar 7, 2021 5:17:09 GMT
Part of being royalty is to put your country in the best interest. “Soft ambassadors”.
I think what is best is not set on stone. I think this fixation on getting the most press or tourists is something that should be put on ice unless it brings trade deals, signed deals. I do not believe that royals should be relied on to bring in tourism, but bring in deals and that is something that they are not equipped to do.
I think I’ve read that Diana was really good with soft power when on royal tours. So she must be an exception. Same with Grace who charmed Charles de Gaulie so that Monaco wouldn’t return back to France. I just think these royals today aren’t equipped and don’t have common sense and only fixated on popularity and tourism(they don’t even do that well tbh). Wow so I was watching a video from Monaco and wow back then everyone wanted Charlotte to be “their princess”....
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Post by kueifei on Mar 7, 2021 19:07:14 GMT
Charlotte was the darling of the tabloids and pop culture public, but after a while, it has admittedly become passe and she is passe as a result. IF she had made something of herself, I am certain that she would have moved further along, but realistically, she was not raised with standards and expectations and it is regrettable that she wasn't raised better. Her mother really let her down and I don't think Grace would have been much better of an influence.
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Post by purple1 on Mar 7, 2021 20:32:28 GMT
Charlotte was the darling of the tabloids and pop culture public, but after a while, it has admittedly become passe and she is passe as a result. IF she had made something of herself, I am certain that she would have moved further along, but realistically, she was not raised with standards and expectations and it is regrettable that she wasn't raised better. Her mother really let her down and I don't think Grace would have been much better of an influence. If you were Charlotte what would have done and became a princess for Monaco? This is why royals should not go the celeb route at all!
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Post by kueifei on Mar 8, 2021 3:26:31 GMT
I'm not Charlotte. If I had been in her place, being the person that I am, I would have studied business, done coursework online, and spent a ton of time in the library. If Charlotte thought that she could use popularity to get into the 'real' power scene, she was mistaken. Diana thought that she would use the press and her popularity to overthrow Charles and she lost her marriage, title, and eventually her life. I do not think that Charlotte was raised to understand and accept that a HUGE part of it is behavior, not just looks and wealth and fame. Maybe like a celebrity, Charlotte thought that she would be a better idea of a princess, but she was not born to it and while she could have bought a title, regrettably Charlotte wants to create roots in regards to a royal past, but regrettably she does not really have that and she is not at all someone who made the right choices. She has to accept that she had time, had limitless resources, and should have emulated the American upper class rather than the British one.
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Post by purple1 on Mar 8, 2021 3:55:12 GMT
Bravo that was perfect! But after the Meghan and Harry interview, honestly royalty is a facade or well the British royal family are. Celeb culture is dying and royalty is too.
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Post by kueifei on Mar 8, 2021 14:39:00 GMT
All of it has been a joke, specifically celebrity culture, but thing is, that royals were supposed to be more substantial, stable, and preferably better dressed. Royals are supposed to be respectable and something special. These days they're as cheap as they come and it is clear that taxpayers are getting nothing in return. I do think that after the H&M interview and more comes out, the more politicians are going to strip these fools of their excessive privilege. This isn't at all money made through the hard work of royalty and it is clear that far too many royals were weaned on adulation and ease and are not being groomed to be independent at the earliest possible age and living in their own place. That is not healthy and they should have been learning how to use their resources a lot more wisely as well. I honestly think that if William and Harry had started having their own households in their teens, it would have been better. Shouldn't it be obvious that the 9-5 integration into royal family life isn't a good one? It's not like William or Harry were being forced to live in a gutter or foster home setting. Realistically it would have protected the princes from the domestic turmoil that both were subjected to.
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Post by purple1 on Mar 9, 2021 0:03:15 GMT
“ Royals are supposed to be respectable and something special” - Ironic they want to be special yet act like regular celebrities. Plus people don’t take titles seriously since the royals themselves don’t put in that work.
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